Withdrawals From Soma, Morphine, Xanax, Oxycodone - Help Please (Page 4)

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I have been in pain management for years, lost my doctor along with other patients, and primary won't fill or says she can't and messes up my progress to get in new pain management in time. Now I'm losing Soma, was 3 times a day, now I have 7 tabs left. Was on 45 mg of morphine 3 times, oxycodone 15s and xanax 5 mg 3 times a day. Which she said she can not write for. Why, if she knew or thought this pain clinic was prescribing more than standard, did she never say a word until i had to go to her in desperation for this? Your primary that has to refer you and get info to get into a new pain clinic, I have very serious health issues no one is dealing with, I feel alone and suicidal. I even told my doctor and the old pain clinic staff that left, and not a bit of help, yet they know i have a history of heart failure, bleeds in brain from pain issues. No one cares, our country is falling apart and i asked again today for something for bp and high pulse, got nothing for it but a nurse, they did not send in the info two times that could have had me in pain management by now, and in having the colostomy i had to postpone since I wont do it with out pain mgmt on board.

Today they cut me back more 1 soma for a few days then no more, oxycodone 10mg 3 times to be cut on mon again and morphine cut from 45 3 x to 3o 2 times. All i can do is cry and sleep then cry more then no food, not drinking, feel horrible, and have lost desire to live and fight. These doctors put all on others and not one seems to care or no what to do with all of us real pain patients. I just want to die at this point for i am so tired of suffering and its only going to get worse. I feel so bad for all of the posts i have seen and know im not alone. All i see is the same four walls every day, go no where and before i felt i had some reason to fight and live to fight cancer and even cancer doc can not help get you in pain mang. They said today it will take at least 8 weeks to get in and ill be dead then or out of meds in a stroke etc. That is my biggest fear. Have had 3 bleeds in brain from this and pain is no joke.

The nurse said today we all are paying for those that dr shop and are addicted and i said i thought even addiction is a matter that needs treatment. They counted my tabs. I take drugs panels, did nothing wrong and most of my pain is caused from docs that did botched surgeries and cancer and injury from accident. I dont no what we all can do or if there is hope but it does not do good to ask on this site if someone knows where to get meds. Its not just docs its insurances companies and pharmacies. It's all getting way too much and hard for even a well person to figure out. I am ready to go home to my maker and wish he would take me soon. I am so tired of the lack of proper dr care in our country and its so sad i feel and pray for you all i want to know who is going to be responsible when i die or end up in a stroke due to this. Xanax withdrawals will be the worst too for i had them before for you can not sleep to escape the torture and they only get worse with time unlike opiates most docs dont seem to know this. I guess i have heart rate of 139 now and bp 200 over 133.

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shae , when a patient takes a drug that they know can cause physical dependence and possible psychological addiction, they are accepting the risks of waht can happen if they suddenly don't have their meds. These side effects are listed on prescription bottles and in the info the pharmacy gives you when you get them filled.

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I would say December 2007- August 2011 I was prescribed Soma 350mg 120 tabs a month and 60 2mg Xanax plus 120 Norco tabs 10/325 which I took until October 2013. That was when I was sick of it all and I got help. I've been on Subutex 8mg twice a day which is a replacement for the opiates and I was also prescribed clonazepam 1mg 3 times a day for my anxiety and it also helps me alot with the muscle spasms since I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. It has helped me tremendously but I'd be lying if I didn't say it was Hell when I moved and was no longer able to get the Soma and Xanax because my current doctors are just plain afraid to give me anything because of the way all the doctor shoppers have caused the government to step in and create all kinds of crazy laws which most definitely have affected the people who genuinely need them. I was certainly addicted to the Somas and opiates and Xanax and ended up in detox and rehab which I never in my wildest dreams thought would ever happen but yes the combination of meds plus the Somas would make me shake so bad that I would have tremors and I couldn't even speak. It would only happen when I took multiple Somas because for some reason I felt that the recommended dose never worked. It was absolutely no way to live unless you want to end up with Parkinson's disease or who knows what. I don't know why I enjoyed being impaired to the point where it was just pathetic because I would fall and hurt myself all the time. But I've been off them since August 2011 and now I'm trying to ween myself off the Subutex and Clonazepam because I'm only 35 years old with my whole s***ty ass life of severe suffering ahead of me. People might read this and think that saying something like that is so negative but then again I've been in severe pain since I was 20 years old because of my disease and I love alone. I have no significant other, zero friends and zero reason to care because I never got to experience my twenties and now I'm not getting to experience my thirties.

My mental health is checked regularly and I was diagnosed wish general anxiety disorder, and agoraphobia. The reality is that I will more than likely die alone in pain and I think that's why I liked taking the soma's and Xanax to the point of impairment. However, I never illegally purchased any of them because I was prescribed them. I sympathize every single person on here who is suffering in any way because it's all that I've ever known in my adult life. If I was ever prescribed Somas ever again I would certainly take them because I like you feel that due to my severe pain that they are one of the only meds that have ever helped. Its just unfortunate that they become so addicting and they end up destroying any and all motor skills and neurological function. Although I suffer everyday of my life because of Rheumatoid Arthritis I'd rather be sober because I enjoy the clarity that comes with it. Maybe it's not too late for me after all. I become very depressed anytime I discuss my addiction or downfalls. Sorry if I started rambling. The thought of taking Soma or Xanax struck a nerve as it should because my addiction to them destroyed my life while I took them. I'm still recovering and after a while you won't miss it as bad as to think.

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So sorry to hear you going thru all these issues, i understand your situation I am also in pain management and taking narcotics I'm at the highest med and at my limit as to how many i can take a day, yes i struggle cus my pain still there, have multiple issues. Its not the Doctor's they have to watch there backs for fear of they losing there license, no way will your primary dr. Fill those scripts only a pain management dr. Can fill those scripts specially if they are narcotics and they also very careful as to what they prescribe due to they also do not want to lose there license, insurance companies want to do away with opiates due to high overdose rate, ever singers, movie stars dying from opiate overdose, so with that said unless you can find a pain management doctor will to give you what you've been on, good fir you but get ready to start all over again with new medications. Good luck and God Bless.

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You can DIE from going off xanex or any benzodiazepines cold turkey if you have a physical dependence bc of long term RX use...

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I have severe osteoarthritis, large Tarlov cyst wrapped around my S1, dry discs, bulging disc and degenerative bone disease. I'm 57 yrs old and have shrunk 3 inches. I take what I take because I want to live! Kratom is a life saver for now and until I find another holistic treatment; then yes, I will always have to take something

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SUZYQ: I hear ya, and am making absolutely no judgment on what you do or do not take. As a 30+ year opioid addict, I'm in no position to judge ANYONE. I am just looking for information. Thanks.

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I am in a similar situation to many posting here as I have severe spine issues and am in constant pain. I would LOVE to try medical marijuana, but my state will be very slow to adopt. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to find a reputable dealer? I don't like the idea of illegally obtaining, but I don't have any other option. I am at a loss.

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LADYLOTHIAN: If you are in a non-mmj state, I don't know what to tell ya. Are there any states near you that ARE mmj friendly? {edited for privacy}. I am in Colorado. Good luck

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Hi, I'm so sorry...I've been going through this too. While it is true that general practice Dr. Cant/ won't prescribe narcotics due to deal. Regulations....you should be able to see a regular family doctor, and get something for anxiety, and or sleep meds..the other thing I would suggest is to ask for Lyrica...200mg. Or start lower and go up....if your already on gaba...it's similar, it's for fibromyalgia...but it works WONDERS for the horrible withdrawal symptoms....the agonizing anxiety....it's have wanted to DIE, they screwed up my dosages at my last visit....it's the was supposed to be cut down, but not as drastically....it's i went from 165 MG. Of oxycontin plus oxycodone...to 85mg. They cut me way too much, too fast ...for two weeks I I thought I would die, my heart was pounding so hard it hurt my stomach, I ended up going to the e.r. I didn't know it was w.d....I lost 11 lb.s in 13 days...my b.p has always been like 99/69....it shot to 153/ 100..... the e.r gave me iv. fluids plus some type of valium to calm me down.....it to wore off like 2 hours after I got home....I was miserable! If I were you, I would take a print out of your pharmacy records....and go to a pain management clinic and say you don't have a family doctor to refer you...say you were seen by "x" and ask them to request your records....explain your situation...get as many copies of any records you can get.. xrsys....Mr I. Ect. Best of luck to you....the people who have abused opiates have really screwed the rest of us...even though truthfully, it's the pharmaceutical companies who lied to the Dr's about the addictiveness of the new "wonder drug" oxycontin, oxycodone, then they figure it out, stop prescribing, cut people off, who then in desperation buy it illegally, can't afford it, start buying illicit drugs...and thus our epidemic...quite honestly...I am a legitimate pain patient, but wish I'd NEVER taken anything stronger than hydrocodone. Those strong opiates change your brain chemistry permanently. Who knows how we'll end up....most of us probably dead. Either on purpose, or accidentally, trying desperately to get relief. I feel we were all lied to, and they poisoned our brains. There should be a legal case. It was criminal.

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I am sure that this has everything to do with the fact that the government and my state, MA, are holding doctors accountable for the heroin and fentenyl sp? epidemic. What is happening to you is inhumane. You are physically addicted to these meds! What really caused this was rich white parents caused an uproar when their kids ended up on junk! They blame doctors because of it. Do they not see that you can have a grand mal seizure without your Xanax? They are treating you like the people that abuse prescription drugs and a junkie to be blunt. I know addiction can be mental and physical. The jerks that could afford $80 a pill of oxys were rich white wealthy spoiled brats that blame a sports injury for them becoming IV drug users. The truth is the entire country is on licit or illicit drugs...alcoholics that point the finger at people that use pain meds and illegal drugs boast about how they go to work daily and show off their expensive wine cellars to their rich friends while their kids are in the next slum city over selling their souls very willingly to the dealers. Then the parents wonder why their kids ended up the way they did. Duh! They were too busy keeping up with others pathologically to pay attention to their kids in the first place. Oh, but they worked so hard to provide their kids with the best of everything and feel a direct hit against their egos and parenting skills when their kids choose drugs over anything else! So, I blame people like them for your situation. Addiction has and will always be here! Too bad they were addicted to money and competing with their friends, neighbors, and other wealthy co-workers to really care about their kids. They couldn't vaccinate their kids from addiction...especially when they held lavish parties with expensive booze to drink...of course for any occasion they could think of! Blame the doctors? No, blame the rich people that passed very strict laws who are members of Congress for it. It is really about their mentality..."My kid would never even think of abusing drugs! I am a perfect parent and spent money left and right for my child to succeed." Well, the rising epidemic is only going to get worse. Now, the rich kids make their own fentanol sp? from their IVY league advanced chemistry courses Mommy and Daddy sent them to to "succeed" in life to once again, be able to "show off" the "object...not their child or person" to others in order to boost their egos even more! I am irate at what you are experiencing. It is not about the doctors. They are well aware about addiction in my state, and I have not had one doctor that over-prescribed me opiates for pain. The doctors' know they will lose their license to practice in a heartbeat here. But you? You are on a pain clinic with very legitimate reasons for having to take these drugs! Their answer is to have you withdraw, become anxious about benzo withdrawals that cause seizures just as alcohol withdrawal does...and think of suicide? This is a classic case of why you would seek out illicit drugs and buy prescription tranquilizers illegally!!! So, thanks to the rich folks...poor black people have had needles in their arms for centuries...did Congress care? NOPE. Now, they do because when their kids or relatives are considered "junkies...lepers of society" it is a direction reflection on them. Selfish as always. The doctor was investigated because of the new laws Congress and the states have implemented. YOU are being directly affected by it. I would call the media if I were you! And, restate in different ways what I just wrote to you. God Bless you...you need to make it public regardless of if you are addicted. Don't be ashamed. BE ANGRY enough to help yourself life the quality of life you deserve as a human being!

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Colorado would be the closest, but a 12-hour drive. If I was to make the drive, could I just walk in to a shop, or do I need some type of prescription?

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Jay, I no exactly what you are saying about the somas, I LOVED them and took them because they helped, but then the negative affects were horrible, I am greatful the doctors stop prescribing them to me cause I don't think I could have stopped on my own. We are all screwed, how do we all get by in life with our chronic pain?? I can't even enjoy being a new grandmother, I feel I am just existing in life, I am not living life and with that goes anxiety and depression, what is the answer??

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ladylothian , if you take the medica marijuana back to your state and your state is a non mm state, you can be arrested. You will need to see a dr for a prescription. It also is expensive and not covered by insurance.

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It figures. Thanks for the info. Nothing is easy.

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Not Obama, The wonderful do gooders Who want to save all of the "addicts" !!! Shame that Drs have to bend to public opinion and insurance companies who always want to save a buck, instead of doing their job treating patients properly Soon these people Will need their doctors to prescribe and there will be nothing for them Karma is a b***h

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I think it is a horrible thing to deny cancer patients their pain medication, especially when it is due to ill thought out laws, created by politicians, who want the public to think that they are getting tough on illegal prescription drugs.

This problem arose because pill mills were illegally dispensing opiate and opioid medications, to anyone, for a fee. These medications were then sold on the black market. Many people died from overdoses. As the result of sensationalized media coverage, our representatives, in their typical knee jerk reaction, wrote regulations that created a climate of fear and discouraged the legitimate use of these drugs. Now, doctors and pharmacists are afraid to to prescribe and dispense pain medication to patients who really need them!

One of my doctors just told me that he has several friends in severe pain who had been taking pain medication for years, in order to function at work and as a family member, now cannot find a doctor to prescribe their medication. Some have been compelled to relocate to big cities with hospitals and doctors that have pain management specialists. In the middle of a personal crises, they lose the support of community, friends and family. This situation is a abomination.

Some years ago, The A.M.A. published guidelines that stated pain should be treated as a primary illness, and that no patient, with a legitimate need for pain relief, should go without treatment. Now, politicians, instead of physicians, are controlling your treatment. This issue affects everyone. I implore all Americans to call or write to their state and federal representatives. Let them know that if they don't correct this situation, they will be voted out of office. Many people feel that their voice will be ignored. This is not true. Your representatives will listen and respond to their constituents. Just make sure not to use foul language or a threatening tone. If you have trouble writing or speaking, get a friend or neighbor to help.

You should know that some states, in their efforts to cut down on prescription pain medications, are worse than others. I know it is a stressful solution, but you may want to consider moving to a different state. Another solution is to hire a good malpractice attorney. It is barbaric to deny pain medication to cancer patients with a legitimate need for relief.

Many years ago, I worked as a hospital orderly It was a time when little attention was given to pain management. There were no hospices either. I used to hear cancer patients screaming, "kill me, kill me," because their doctors abandoned them after they received a terminal diagnoses. Their physicians never increased their pain medication to overcome the tolerance they had built up. I was a young man then and frequently went home weeping. It was like a scene out of Middle Ages. Now, that we finally have some insight and knowledge about pain management, we seem to be going backwards. Political expediency is taking precedence over quality medical care.

You may want to find nonprofit advocacy groups on the web. There are many groups which support people who have been denied treatment for pain. Some groups have attorneys that can represent you for little or no money.

I'm not a physician, but after reading your letter, I believe that you need to find a good attorney. At a minimum, it sounds like your health care providers have violated professional ethics. A person with treatable pain caused by cancer should never be driven to contemplate suicide. It is barbaric beyond words.

My prayers are with you in your battle against a political establishment that has no empathy for their fellow human beings.

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FIBROCHERRYONTHECAKE: I am a bit confused; a GP IS a "regular family doctor". They certainly CAN prescribe narcotics, but yes, there has been a backlash of sorts and they are not handing them out like candy anymore.

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LADYLOTHIAN: May I ask what state you are in?

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Robyn, I just want to tell you, this is in all races and economic backgrounds, not just blacks or whites, this is an epidemic among all people, this is not about race or rich kids, or poor kids. I lost a brother 30 years ago to a suicidal overdose on coke. I did not grow up rich. It is what it is and somehow we all need to figure out how we all are going to deal with this, regardless of someone's color of their skin, or their financial resources.

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I am in the "show me" state of Missouri.

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