Big Pharma's Lockdown On Legitimate Chronic Pain Patients (Page 68)

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David Says:


Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?

Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?

Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?

Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.

Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.

The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.

While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.

In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.

What will you do?

Warm regards to all who face life's challenges head on.



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Thomas Says:

After reading your comment, I felt compelled to respond! I totally agree that the FDA, DEA, and Big Gov’t in general have done a horrible job dealing with illicit drugs and NOW pharmaceutical drugs...via its failed attempt of “The War on Drugs”! And it’s true, most of the focus is on profits, politics, and morality policing. When facing a National Epidemic, as the Opiod Abuse and Overdose is, instead of taking a true, patient focused attempt to solve the problem, they resort to “herd mentality” actions that end of hurting the patients that have been on such narcotics for many years and never used them illicitly, overtake them, or sell them!

Most of the patients, like me, that have been on these drugs, long term, realize that they will NEVER take all (and sometimes most) the pain away. You have to realize this or you will build such a high tolerance, NOTHING will alleviate the pain! And, years ago, I don’t think a lot of Drs had a clue (or didn’t want to admit) this fact, because when I started on them I just told my Dr. what I was experiencing, while he kept using my dosage. I was on SO much that when I look back, I’m lucky to be alive! Even though I found out later that I am what they consider a “high-metabolizer. He finally started weaning me down to a manageable dosage!

For perspective, I am a Permanently Disabled Vet, surviving on OxyContin (legally prescribed by same Dr.) for 15 yrs. Last year I spoke to my Dr. of 20 yrs about trying to use medicinal marijuana and get off OxyContin when it becomes available to qualified patients. To my surprise he highly advocated this and told me Medical Cannabis was a much better option, if it helps me personally, than OC, because if has LONG been known by the medical community to be a very effective drug for many conditions and has MUCH lower side effects than OC, as well as many other narcotics, aka “opioids”!

I am a strong advocate for the use of Cannabis medically, after reading a TON of information about recent hybrids, derivatives, and effectiveness of “modern” cannabis through new advanced methods of cultivation. These new advancements make it possible to cross-breed the strains to produce plants that can be used to specifically aide specific diseases, both physical and mental.

I was one of the naive, I suppose, that just believed the propaganda being fed to us by Big Gov’t that cannabis was a demonic, taboo drug that would eventually leave you brain dead and possibly lead a person to violent, abusive behavior! Well, if you personally do your due diligence and check the recent facts out for yourself, you will see it is actually the opposite! How many persons have ODed on narcotics? 10s of thousands, I’m sure! How many have died from cannabis overdose? ZERO! I’m finding out there are more medicinal benefits from cannabis, than any other DRUG or herb, than I would have ever expected! We’ve been lied to for a century, for the sake of Big Pharma & Big Business PROFITS! Check it out yourself, especially if you are being forced off of your pain medication, without consent!

It may not work for everyone, I understand, but I’m willing to bet it will help a LOT of patients with no where else to turn! If your state has not legalized Medical use of Cannabis yet, be an advocate for its legalization! It may well be a medicine that will help you with your individual malady....

I hope each of you that there struggling with severely painful conditions will find Hope this Christmas Season and find a way to survive your ailments soon, or in the near future! All we can do is be our own advocates, advocates for each other, and stay informed about the TRUTH! You are not ALONE!

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Margo Says:
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Re: Charlene (# 1336)

Please let me know the sites to visit for kratom. I know that my Dr is going to cut me down again

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Charlene Says:
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Re: Margo (# 1344)

Margo, you are asking for a few sites for kratom. I will list a few sites also on this page ( chris #1337) also asks me to. I have used these vendors many times. #1 Bookoo organics have kilos for $81 and that's alot. You can split deals for instance you might want to buy a red maeng da for evening. A green maeng da for day time. Also a white will give you energy. Kratom tastes really bad and have many ways to ingest it like a toss n wash if u can handle it. I buy mine in powder form and capsule myself with a capsule machine that they sell online. I have joined groups on Facebook and everyone seems more knowledgeable than me so u can join a get info on many things. Youtube will also guide you.

I say this because of trial and error from what I have been through when I first started. If you have a lot of medicine in your system, at first you will find u will be using alot more at the beginning, and slowly u will find out how you're not running to your pill bottle as much. A second group is called leaf of life lounge I believe they are out of stock. But joining to the news letter will provide greater support and information to read. Third is called greenhouse botanics. They are also out of stock at the moment due to rebuilding the site and warehouse. You can still order through these 2 places I believe by joining the group. If u are interested in joining I can give lead u to 2 of the girls who are way knowledgeable about this than I am..who have helped me soo much. I say this because people who take kratom say "well I bought some and it didn't work?"

Like I said, kratom is a plant so to have it fight against pharmaceutical meds it's a tough fight. So many people use this to either detox, or are just in pain from whatever. It helps with anxiety, depression, mood lift, you name it. Why else would the government be trying to get a hold of this plant? Just like out marijuana plant..they are starting to notice it does have a lot of benefits.. just like 30ish years ago people who took lsd, mushrooms, pot. I found two doctors working with a professor who are 30+years in a new therapy for post traumatic stress disorder using micro dosing. I know it has nothing to do with this, but I got carried away for moment.

So many people are starting to believe between the pharmaceutical companies and the government are only making things worse so we are turning to plants and natural resources. Just like way back in ancient history. Let me know if u need anything else. I have learned some interesting things. I guess maybe like they say Google can sometimes be too much info lol

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Charlene Says:
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Re: Thomas (# 1343)

Wow, beautiful, well said. I'm so excited to see how many people are starting to see our plant that has been given to us people are starting to realize it does not make people do violence. As I read this it sounded like my husband trying to preach someone who has no idea how much things have changed. I'm 58 and smoked pot throughout my life, but eventually stopped because of having children and such. U know I don't want the risk of being busted. But its nice to see others agree for legalization. My daughter who is 32 was so against it all her life has finally got the picture so that to me is somewhat huge..lol...so thank you for the great reading material. Merry Christmas to you.

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Margo Says:
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Re: Kaydollasign (# 1327)

How dare you call these people weak!!!! you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Margo Says:
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Re: marin5 (# 1314)

Thank you for your interest in our situation. Yes, I have been trying CBD capsules for the last month and find no relief for my son or myself. I am now going to get kratom and see if it works.

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Margo Says:
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Re: Valerie (# 1302)

Thank you for your interest in our situation. Still trying to find a Dr who will prescribe the new med for prevention of migraine!!! They won't even try it for my son. Don't know where to turn.

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Charlene Says:
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Re: Margo (# 1344)

Margo, I have sent some sites for reputable vendors for kratom. I have not seen my reply to you yet so keep a look out. Also a chris on this page asked me to..u can look and see what I wrote them for now thx

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Re: Valerie (# 1331)

My doctor won't even talk to me about Suboxone or Subutex. The pill heads around hear are taking them recreationally, being sold just like opioids. That's why this 'war on opioids' won't work... next they will be using heroin, then what will Big Brother do? That illegal drug has been around for years, and not once have I heard about a crackdown to eradicate it and blame the REAL ABUSERS, not legitimate pain patients who have been taking their prescriptions correctly and responsibly! I am a caregiver to my Mom, and without my pain meds (besides Tylenol 3), it is getting very hard, physically, mentally and emotionally. For Shame...

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Re: Mare (# 1317)

The Soma I had taken for years for acute insomnia and muscle spasms are a BIG NO-NO around where I live. I finally voluntarily dropped it, so the pharmacy would fill my pain meds. Now no pain meds either, except Tylenol 3... I tried to play by their rules, but doesn't matter. Just try to bear it, but getting harder and harder every day. It doesn't matter until the doctors push back and stop lying that guidelines are law... why can't they be honest??? Why won't they help us. I asked my provider for complete new X-rays and MRIs to document and update my many ailments... they refused! What a crock!!

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Mare Says:

Re: Vintage Lady (# 1351)

I feel for you. I don’t know why they wouldn’t give you Soma if you have muscle spasms. That’s what it is for! You said your provider won’t allow an MRI. Are you talking about your insurance company? If so, your Dr can order it. I’m so tired of insurance companies sticking their nose into what your physician perscribes. I’m having the same issues with the insurance company that is handling my work injury. I no longer have a disc at L3-L4 & the 2 vertebrae just rub against each other or one slips right out. The insurance company is telling my doctor that I should be healed by now. Gee, I had no idea our bodies can grow back discs! Lol.... Now after walking with a cane for years, there is something going on with my neck. Good Luck & keep fighting. Don’t let the insurance company bully you.

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HOUSE Says:
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Re: Vintage Lady (# 1351)

It IS a crock! And it's not just where you live, it's happening with all of us everywhere. I asked my Dr about Soma about 2 year's ago now and she looked at me like I was asking for heroin! She actually told me that people take them just to feel high?!?... it would be laughable if I weren't in so much pain..it is indeed a terrible time these days for chronic pain patients!

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madashell Says:

Re: Vintage Lady (# 1351)

They legally cannot refuse your medical records can they? What if you wanted another opinion? I'm not sure but that doesn't sound legal to me. They don't own the damn things-the records are yours right?

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Charlene Says:
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HOUSE (# 1352) --

You're reply made me laugh..because when I asked him for soma to because that baclofen didn't help..my doctor looked at me strangely and kinda shook his head slightly and just said no. I sat there thinking what's that all about, because he used to give it all the time when i used to visit with him years ago... i didn't understand his actions at all..I mean I didn't think it was a hard core narcotics, or is it now ?

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jobird Says:

Any folks on here taking Tramadol 50mg for non -acute pain?That is generic for Ultram.Retired USMC so we go the Navy Pharmacy and they only use the generic form for Ultram.It helps my lower back and bad knees but I do not over use it.Pain has to be really awful and I must run the vacunm.(house work never goes away).Thanks all.Great site!

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Thomas (# 1341) --

Your story hits home with me dear one; I, too after exhausting every avail procedure, surgeries, etc during a 10yr time span post near-fatal car accident I was written off as a “failed back syndrome” patient & degenerating disc disease where your spine is like a zipper—-disc by disc herniating hitting nerve endings along w/arachnoiditis which is when scar tissue forms after every needle block, surgery, laser penetrations that travels out of the affected areas/spine levels/disc spaces and the tissue hits/surrounds the nerves.

All this ended me up in a wheelchair. Dr’s said there was no more hope for me. The pain was insane! Then, in 1990, along came a miracle opportunity to be a participant in the study/research/development of OPIATE PAIN MGMT; Dr’s viewed me as a prime candidate ie; a “young” spine at age 30 yet had become the spine of a cripple failing all treatments. I had hope! I was placed on a dose of 4-5 Percocet 10/325 pills daily strictly monitored with 2 check-in appts weekly for a 30-day trial. Within 10 days of the 1st dose I stood & began to walk again, not without pain but at least tolerable! It was a miracle!

It’s been 22yrs now as a LEGITIMATE CHRONIC PAIN PATIENT leading & walking, for the most part, a semi-productive, comfortable semi-normal life; Although I’ve had to endure many more nerve blocks, etc to this day with sporadic excruciating painful moments as I’ve said...no wheelchair, cane, walker... Unfortunately, the new opioid laws due to addicts abuse of oxycodone the past 2 yrs have put me back to where I started; my dose cut in half overtime the pain debilitating spending most of my time in bed. Along with my dose being cut, there is a distinct difference in the formulation of this med; tolerance issue is not the problem here. Despicable, the FDA & BIG PHARMA have without our knowledge tricked us good patients.

I could go on & on but I want to tell you all to go to the NIH NATIONAL PAIN REPORT online. You will find advocates for us all there as well as patients stories similar to all of us FORGOTTEN, ignored LEGITIMATE LEGENDARY CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS!

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Thomas (# 1341) --

To add to my reply, THANK YOU for your service to our country. You are a special man of courage. My heart goes out to you to have to sustain chronic pain as part of your life. I’m happy med. cannabis helps you. Unfortunately, as I’ve ended up in the ER the 2 times in my life I tried it, I’m highly allergic to it’s THC ingredient. Bless you sir & again, I salute you.

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madashell Says:

Re: Margo (# 1349)

I don't know if this will help, but People's Pharmacy website has ideas for migraines.... amongst many other remedies. for ailments. In fact, that's how I found this website. I use mustard (eat it) for muscle cramps and by golly it works. Best wishes for you and your son,

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forgotten nickname Says:

Doctors must have special licensing for prescribing opioids, Trumps fake news that there is an epidemic of illegal pain control medications have been parroted by republican state attorney generals,.The real fact is the only way one can get opioids is to steal them from a family member, doctor feel goods,AND THE CHAIN PHARMACIES SELLING TO MD's OFF THE BOOKS AS Walgreens was busted for by the DEA in 2013 , it turns out majority of chain pharmacies did this which is why 99.9% of them changed policies in dispensing these meds.Google Walgreens busted by DEA 2013 walgreens distribution center Jupiter Florida, IT EXPLAINS THE WHOLE ISSUE, ALSO CHECK ON WALGREENS "GOODFAITH POLICY" THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE TO RID THEMSELVES OF PAIN PATIENTS and to satify the DEA that they were doing something about it. a few hundred of walgreens pharmacists quit before they stooped to this low walgreens pulled on pain patients even knowing all the other chain pharmacies were not taking new pqain patients due to the fact they were all doing the same illegalities.The "GOOD FAITH PROGRAM WAS IN SHORT THE PHARMACISTS WERE TOLD TO LIE TO THE PAIN PATIENTS BY TELLING THEM THEIR SUPPLY HAS NOT YET ARRIVED, THIS WENT ON LONG ENOUGH TO FORCE THE PATIENTS TO SEEK OTHER PHARMACIES TO FILL THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS WHEN HERE IN FLORIDA WHERE THE DEA RAIDED WALGREENS DISTRIBUTION CENTER OTHER PHARMACIES WOULD NOT TAKE ON NEW PAIN PATIENTS, IT CAUSED SEVERAL SUICIDES IN FLORIDA FOR MANY ELDERLY WHO COULD NOT FIND RE LEAF FROM THEIR PAIN ADD THE LIES OF OR CHIEF MORON AND HABITUAL LIAR IN CHIEF Trump, i refuse to call him president due to his incompetence, and mental instability

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Hop Says:

Re: Charlene (# 1356)

To my knowledge soma is a muscle relaxant. It is not a narcotic. It may now be “controlled” substance but could not be in same class as narcotics. Good luck finding relief for your pain.

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