Roxane Subutex (westward/hikma)

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So for a couple years now my Roxane/westward/hikma pills have been super inconsistent or just flat out felt like 2mgs instead of 8mgs. Sometimes they work sometimes they do almost nothing. It started in about the end of 2015. I think i was taking them before 2015 but never looked at the brand until i started having withdrawals out of nowhere. It was like a completely different med. So for almost 2 years i have been having issues. I'm fed up and i have changed brands but always only had partial fills and back to the roxane/westward/hikma brand. Anyone else notice any differences in this brand?

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Kevin Says:


This definitely sounds like a problem! Every generic is supposed to stay within an error window of 20% of the brand name drug so going through withdraws is absolutely a problem.

Just to be absolutely sure you're positive that the pills you have been receiving the last 2 years are the same? By this I mean the imprints have remained the same, the dosages on the pill bottle remain the same and nothing out of the ordinary seems to be varying from one prescription to the next. Also are you returning to the same pharmacy every single time or have you tried swapping pharmacies? Have you also looked into making sure you are storing your drugs properly?

While it may seem odd to ask these questions I do so because I want to make sure that you are looking at all the possibilities. If a drug is not handled and stored properly it could definitely lose some of it's potency (such as getting them wet, storing in hot or humid cabinets etc.). You mentioned that you were happy with them sometimes but other times not at all. There are a lot of factors when considering your bodies ability to absorb medication.

I don't want to discredit you and say that the pills/brand is not the problem I simply wanted to provide you with other possible scenarios so that you have a better scope of the situation. I really hope the new brand works for you. Best of luck.

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Bobby Says:
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Ive been using Roxanne off and on since 2010 and Im very picky about my medication and I notice the smallest difference between brands. I didn't care for Roxanne when I first switched from suboxone and got the brand name until they were discontinued. Then I found Teva s brand which was awesome! They discontinued the Teva brand in 2015 and the next best brand was Roxanne so I stuck with it and I was forced to try other brands when it was unavailable. I tried the tiny hi tech brand a few times which are way underdosed and suck, sun pharma which ate underdosed and low quality, activis ok as far not being underdosed but the orange flavoring and other fillers made it not great ( although in an emergency I would probably go with activis). I honestly have not noticed any difference in the Roxanne / Westward brand and I've been on the alert. I still prefer it over all the other available brands by far! The only other brand I have not tried is the new Rhodes Purdue brand that is supposed to be good but it is very sparce and not widly available yet. Hopefully to the Rhodes brand will be available soon to more people and o can try it out. I would love a new high quality brand!!! It seems like all the newer brands have been pretty bad.

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Charlene Says:
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Bobby (# 2) --

Last month I got stuck with the activist orange 8mg bup...I haven't had to take them for along time.. it by the time I got out of the drs office my small mom n pop pharmacy was I to the 3 day of taking them i noticed night sweats and mild withdrawal symptoms. And it was bad even with nausea..i emailed my dr..she gave me clonidine and nausea medicine...i also found out that my normal pharmacy i told them to order the new Rhodes subs. And wow I was shocked they got them in the next day...but I'm into this script for now. So im patiently waiting for my next month's new script..because my mom n ppl pharmacy has either hikma or Rhodes. Two great generics hummm what should I choose I think.....I absolutely can't wait. I have 2 and half weeks to go with my actavis brand

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Charlene Says:
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I have taken westward for 2 months and then I received the new hikma brand..I didn't notice a difference in them I liked them alot...I have taken buprenorphine since 2007 starting with the brand name..I now told my pharmacy to order the new generic Rhodes..on another blog ppl are just raving about them...believe or not after taking subs I have only tried Teva brand the tiny while ones..and the orange me they are the worst I got stuck with these on my last script so I can't wait for next month I will either choose hikma or Rhodes..but I have never had any problems with hikma at qll... someone did tell me yes they changed names and a few inactive ingredients that them.. when ever I get stuck with q different generic I find myself going into withdrawal the first week or so..

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Janeway Says:
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Kevin (# 1) --

I got taken off my morphine timed release meds because of all the hype about the opiate crisis. I have serious very painful illnesses. Multiple sclerosis, failed spinal surgery, diabetic neuropathy, fibromyalgia, just to name a few of the things wrong with me. There are eight people I know all of them taking Suboxone. Buprenorphine has been used as a pain medication for a long time. However nobody wants to except me as a new patient in order to get on the Suboxone for chronic pain. I am not a drug attic, I am physically dependent on opiates for my very quality of life. I have now been suffering almost 2 years trying to find a clinic or a doctor that will put me on Suboxone. I am not one of those people that are red flagged in their medical chart or anything like that. However I am a Medicare patient. One Pain Clinic here in my town who is supposed to be one of the leading Pain Clinic’s for miles and miles around actually told me that they could not except me as a patient because they didn’t think that I would be a good fit for their program. However a very close friend of mine in her early 20s has been jumping around from clinic to clinic staying on her Suboxone. When one drug treatment program runs out she switches to another. I see all these people taking Suboxone, some do to opioid One Pain Clinic here in my town who is supposed to be one of the leading Pain Clinic’s for miles and miles around actually told me that they could not except me as a patient because they didn’t think that I would be a good fit for their program. However a very close friend of mine in her early 20s has been jumping around from clinic to clinic staying on her Suboxone. When one drug treatment program runs out she switches to another. I see all these people taking Suboxone, some due to opioid abuse or abuse of other street drugs. And I literally have not been able to get a Suboxone clinic to open their doors to me and welcome me as a patient. The other reason I was given was you have too many medical illnesses and medical problems. It seems the only way I am going to be able to get into a Suboxone clinic is if I pretend I am a street drug attic. This causes me such huge anxiety and depression because I’m in so much pain I can barely get through the day. I’m suffering and I need someone to help me find a place to treat this horrible chronic pain. I have tried three Pain Clinic, One told me that because I had fibromyalgia nothing else mattered and all I needed was an antidepressant and all my pain would disappear. God. Another told me their program consisted only of yoga and exercise and cardio stuff all which I cannot do. Somebody could you please just give me some advice or just say a prayer that somebody will take me in. This opioid crisis me literally forced me to just end things myself and I don’t want to do that. Any advice would be so appreciated. Thank you

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Tylor Says:
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What do the pills look like? I've been on subutex and suboxone for 8 years now. I was on suboxone when they still made the orange stop sign shaped ones and then i was still on them when they quit making them and they came out with round orange ones with an imprint of a half moon. Now i got switched to subutex which i only know 3 kinds. They make the round 54 411 white pills, the orange football shaped ones with an imprinted half moon and they got these little white ones which i wont take, i hate them as they dont feel like 8mg. They say there's no cut in them. That's why they're so tiny but i gotta take 2 to compare to a regular white 54 411 subutex.

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megalosdog Says:
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I've been getting them for about 5 years and I don't think I've ever had an issue with Roxanne, nor anyone that I know. I have however, had can issue with that "high-tech" brand trash, and now I'm getting some made by "Rhodes" that ain't much to scream about either. Question for you-are you using anything else on top of these? If yes, then there's your answer.

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