Roxane Subutex (westward/hikma)
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So for a couple years now my Roxane/westward/hikma pills have been super inconsistent or just flat out felt like 2mgs instead of 8mgs. Sometimes they work sometimes they do almost nothing. It started in about the end of 2015. I think i was taking them before 2015 but never looked at the brand until i started having withdrawals out of nowhere. It was like a completely different med. So for almost 2 years i have been having issues. I'm fed up and i have changed brands but always only had partial fills and back to the roxane/westward/hikma brand. Anyone else notice any differences in this brand?

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Re: Charlene (# 3)

I here you brother. My small town pharmacy has always gotten my Rhodes by request. This morning they gave me hikma we'll see. ????

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Re: Bobby (# 2)

Rhodes Deffinately. I just picked mine up and they're by hikma. We'll see I noticed already they don't last long under your tongue and a chalky taste. With Rhodes they would last 30-45 minutes if I did it right. Is the real Suboxone oranges gone. I could actually feal High and loved them.

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Re: Tracy (# 37)

You can get a partial refill of subutex since it doesn't have Naloxone in it. I just got 1 of the horrible Sun brand to get me through until I can pick up the Activis or Hikma brand from another location.

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Re: davidjw1 (# 18)

Too bad they went bankrupt and got bought by Walgreens.

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Re: Tylor (# 17)

Wow you are wrong on so many things i dont know where to start. I've been on subutex for over a decade now. Maybe what you say was true in your case, but you're using a broad brush to paint your picture. I started first on subutex, i remember my doctor saying to me "you don't have track marks and you don't seem like the type to try and inject your medication".

I was on mad amounts of opiates... 100mcg/hr fentanyl patches with either oxycodone or hydromorphone for breakthrough pain. I didn't get sent to rehab. I had my first visit, drug tested, talked a lot. Then I had to go home for 72 hours with cold turkey. Returned to my next visit 3 days later and had to take my first dose there at the clinic until it took effect.

Buprenorphine was never meant for alcoholics, period! That's just stupid. It's been a pain medication for over 70 years.

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Re: Kevin (# 1)

Everyone gets that 20% thing wrong. Each manufacturer is allowed to have a 10% variance in dosage. People get that 20% from saying you were on one generic medication that was 10% stronger than normal but then you get switched to another generic that is 10% weaker ... then technically you would have a possible 20% variance.

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Same, the 54 411 brand is just awful. I'm on 4 times a day 8mg and it's s***. I've had other brands now looking and calling but some of the ones I kept the bottle so I know what brands, but some have gone out of business or new brand name.

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Re: Tracy (# 37)

Isn't it crazy? I tried to lower my pain meds after knee replacements thinking I didn't need as much. But it wasn't enough and I was stuck waiting all month for a change. I'm too old to keep losing a month at a time of my life with this greed and nonsense. Government doesn't care unless you're wealthy or in power.

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Re: Alex (# 38)

I have had the same experience with the Hikma brand!

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Ive taken buprenorphine about three years with few problems but just went through two months of increasing nausea and vomiting and high pain levels after my pharmacy changed the brand to Hikma (I had no idea this was the cause until i switched pharmacies again and got yet a different brand.) My pain was under control again and the nausea slowly disappeared over the first few days of taking it. I plan to report this. I asked my pain doc and pcp but neither would fill an anti-nausea med for me. This has been a horrible and costly experience.

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Re: Bobby (# 2)

Hikma Buprenorphine is the only manufacturer that has I've become terribly ill from. Nausea, vomiting, sweating. I literally feel that I might die from taking this medication. I've taken Buprenorphine for over 3 years and tried just about every manufacturer and this is the only one that makes me feel sick.

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Omg I wake up in withdrawal when they changed and I hate this because you’re stuck with the whole months worth of meds!

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Re: Kevin (# 1)

Same problem and I've used the exact same pharmacy same pills.go on any buprenorphine board to many people changing and having withdrawls to some extent! FDA PLUS OR MINUS TWENTY PERCENT ON GENERICS WHEN YOU MADE US TAKE NAME BRAND FOR DAMN NEAR TWENTY YEARS. YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ADDICCTS TWICE!!

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Re: Bobby (# 2)

Just switched from Hikma to Rhodes and they are much better IMO

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Re: Janeway (# 5)

I have been on Subutex 8mg for approximately 9 years now. From the same doctor in Florida. I have taken my prescription to multiple different pharmacies and I don't care if they red flag me, green flag me, yellow flag me. It doesn't matter to me as long as they fill my prescription. One of the problems you might be having is you want to take the Subutex for pain, that might cause you a problem with ur Dr. Or clinic. They do help with pain. Its tricky situation you are in. If you tell them you want it for pain you will have a much harder time getting it prescribed. Its for opiate users to get off of opiates. Now! Listen. If you want Suboxone for ur pain, you will need to tell ur clinic or Dr that u want it to get off opiates. Even though they help with pain they are prescribed to get off of opiates so doctors or the clinic will give u a hard time. You mentioned, the clinic said you don't qualify for their program right? That's because you are telling them you want Suboxone for pain instead of Suboxone to get off of opiates. If you really want Suboxone for pain you are going to have to lie and tell them you want to get off of opiates then you will get the prescription you want. Now a lot of doctors or clinics don't like to prescribe Subutex, they want you to be on Suboxone. And there's a difference in them for me. They work for the same to get of opiates. Good luck and do what I said.

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Re: Bobby (# 20)

Kroeger- Smiths Grocery pharmacy carries Rhodes. They switched from Hi Tech thank goodness!

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I'm a 4 year patient of suboxone to subutex generics after I lost insurance (with the GoodRx app they are cheaper) or wellRX is new and has a cvs coupon for 36. And Change for 30 8 mg tablets. Download the app!! Anyway, sun are weak, actavis are ok. I loved the westward/hikma but I just got the RP b8 from Rhodes and I am really impressed. I only had them for 3 days but so far even better than the 54 411 Hikmas!

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Charlene (# 26)

Hi Charlene my Pharmacy is in downtown San Francisco. If your family need a recommendation. Let me know. They don't take coupons (no compounding pharmacies do out here) and charge me less than what the chains do with a 76% off coupon. They can get or compound anything in the USA. Verrry customer fruendly and order my Rhodes ahead before I even provide the prescription! So i drop it off wait a bit and off I go. They're awesome. I will never use a chain ever again.

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Re: LauraLee (# 29)

Yes the change the formula along with the name is now called hikma. 54 411.. slot of people are now turning to Rhodes 8mg the are nice, shiny and not dull or chipped up.very smooth they melt somewhat fast..and they seem to be stronger..they are close in campared with original brand name subutex the first bup I have ever tried b wa cl in 2005..we finally got one q new very good generic yaaa..

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I have been on the Westward 54 411 subutex for four years. Last refill I noticed that I'm extremely tired instead of the pick me up "get going" start that I used to have with them. Has something in the formula changed? They sure do not seem the same.

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