What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 26)

I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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Narcotics pain relief medication are addictive and even extend use of low dosages can cause discomfort when you stop using. Taking these meds at high doses causes addiction, and I can attest that after taking over 60 mg of Oxycontin daily for more than a month, getting off of them was very difficult and extremely stressful to both my body and emotional state! Happy that I did. Unfortunately, because the severe pain condition persist, l am dealing with this awful dilemma of balancing periods of pain relief by using narcotics, then strong steroids anti-inflammatory, and using lesser pain reliever to take the edge off while I have lesser withdrawal symptoms. I have the option of having a third surgery in three years to offset the pain, for which I'm thankful. Unfortunately managing severe chronic pain, for me, has been, has also been a process of struggling with addiction and a diminished quality of life.

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Anyone having problems paying cash for opiate meds must have alot of loot because its expensive BUT I found that the best (for me) discount was at Walgreens with AAA to reduce the cost of the Vicodin [yellow or blue depending on brand] [it's been years since been on them fogot the mg]
If I remember correctly it was $80 for 120 of them but with the AAA it was below $40 big deal when you are waiting on Comp.
ALSO, SHOP AROUND! DIFFERENT PHARMACIES and DIFFERENT AREAS ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT PRICES!
Walmart is also a cheap spot as well [the wait sucks tho].
Good Luck and always bargain shop your meds. Just because the price is different doesn't mean the med is less effective for pain meds AS FAR AS I PERSONALLY BELIEVE. [the only difference is who makes it and that is usually a personal preference] even tho my husband would dispute that. He claims there is a difference between CVS & WALGREENS for the Perc 30s he thinks CVS has the better ones with the V on it.
Who knows everyone's different physically and psychologically.
GOOD LUCK FELLOW PAIN SUFFERERS

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Mary,

It's been a couple of weeks since your last post how did you make out at your follow up appt. for ua levels ?? Hope things turned out in your favor... No one should live with that fear and constant stress in there life's especially in addition to dealing with a chronic pain issue.

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I should be dead. I fell 2700 feet without an inflated parachute and landed/crashed on the cold Colorado ground, no bouncing, no bushes, no anything to help break the fall, just me and the ground and as you can imagine, a whole lot of pain and a whole lot of injuries. How I'm alive will forever remain a mystery. I have been reading everyone's stories here and am shocked to not have ran into any suggestions like the one I'm about to make yet. First though let me say my heart goes out to all of us who suffer or have suffered from intense, consistent pain; it impacts every aspect of life and until one goes through it, yes, they will never understand just how much it really does and how much those changes are typically for the worse. I was on an onslaught of pain meds after my fall and must say I agree with some previous comments; opiates sucks the life out of people. They made me a shadow of my former self and made me not care to get myself back either. When I tapered off of my daily doses of 120mg of oxycontin, 4 mg Dilaudid and 75 mg of oxycodone it was miserable and lengthy but worth the several months and many sleepless nights. As for tapering off, I tapered the contins and Dilaudids and used the codones to lessen the skin crawling on your body feeling when it became unbearable only. I did it on my own with my last (by choice) month of scripts from pain management which I stretched to almost three months while tapering down and finally off. I found the coding w/d the least bad do made my final cut when I was down to 3 a day and off the others. Still had w/d's but they were bearable and lasted about three days. The mental w/d's lasted months more and it was about 4 months until my energy levels got back to normal. All that aside, HERE IS A SUGGESTION FOR PAIN RELIEF: this might sound crazy, before I had chronic pain honestly I thought it was just an excuse made by people who use it but turns out it's not, it works better than all those pills combined did for me...consume marijuana. Works for some, may not for some, but it you're one of us lucky ones it works for, it's amazing how effective it is and how many less negative effects it has on you and your life. Most pain management doctors won't prescribe it and will actually required you don't smoke it because they are federally regulated. But I tell you it works amazingly for those that it works for and it has changed my life, my outlook, my will, my smile, every aspect of my life, for the better.

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You could try methadone or suboxone, but i think methadone is better.

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Amen brother I suffered a left ankle traumatic injury and had 2 surgeries and will now need an ankle replacement I have been on pain meds for over two years and with out pain meds I feel so miserable and can't even walk of get up out of bed so people that want to judge I wish you could walk in our shoes and see what it's like to live.

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Thank you Chris.
So many people think that because you are on medication for pain, that your and addict, or are looking for sympathy. Worst part is they just think you want to be on pain meds so you need not work or you just want more pills. I myself don't like to say this but there are times that I wished that these people had my issue's or yours. Just because they can't see the problem, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You don't normally hear from someone if they can see "US" on the outside where supposedly the pain should be. I injured my back yrs. ago, I also have knee issue's. Many people say well go for therapy "get off of the pills". Guess what, I went to Therapy and I plateaued, they could do no more for me. Sure I might do things one day, however when nobody see's me, its' because I am in bed with my pills and the heating pad on both my back and knees! People have to start taking a look at the bodies inside, people don't just feel pain outside so it is visible. It has been proven that there are so many people with under the skin problems than outside. So c'mon people, we would certainly love to be you, but we have tried many ways to stop pain, it didn't work. PLEASE - Get with the program! Quit judging people, this include's those who are injured along with Race's of People! You can not change the inside's of people's pain, and NO we do not like to have to take pain killer's all of the time. We would love nothing more than to be NORMAL!! We have lost the perception of Normal because Physician's can not help us so here we are, again don't talk about us just because you have nothing more to talk about. Thank you!

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I agree. as a nurse I see so many people struggling with pain and so many people judging them because it does become physically addictive there's no way around that. And those people in pain have a right to quality of life and a right for treatment with pain meds. It's really sad that most doctors will no longer prescribe pain medication because of all the abuse out there with people who aren't really in pain and are taking it for recreational use. I wish you all the best of luck with your pain management.

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I too suffer from Chronic Pain Disorder, specifically from severe migraine headaches (top 1% worst cases) and Fibro jumped along for the ride in addition to RSD in my lower back. Migraines were inherited from both parent's side of the family so I got them as a baby. Through all the years of going to school and work Iearned how to hide it really well until it gets to be an 7 or 8 on the pain scale. My husband can detect it in my eyes before I even know I am sick. My dad, who has never had a headache in his life, who has seen me vomit repeatedly and cry from the pain, just can't put it together that I am ill. He and my brother think that since I don't work, I have all this free time. I explained to them until I turned blue that my job is feeling better or getting well and it is hard to do when you don't feel well most of the time.

I look really good on the outside so people don't think I am even sick. I usually bolt as soon as I start feeling badly because it unravels exponentially once it hits. I can't even count how many dinners we had to end immediately because I got sick or how many concerts we canceled, after we bought the tickets, because I couldn't go. Nothing can be planned, it is all spontaneous and my husband does not do well with spontaneity.

If people can't see it, they think you are faking or that you are a malingerer. It is sad. They don't see us when we are down and out, and even if they did, they would come up with something ugly like we were faking it. My Aunt, who also struggles with severe migraines, said to my mom, "She is the sickest person I have ever seen who did not have cancer." Like I really wasn't THAT sick. It is a shame and no one, I repeat, NO ONE wants to be around a sick person. Doctors HATE sick people or people who are in pain. If you are a patient and you don't complain or act sick, they like you better. Doctor's kids and nurse's kids - never sick because they know how much their medical parent HATES sick people. Even if you aren't contagious, your friends don't want to be around you.

My brother quit talking to me because he thought I should get off of Dilaudid and go for treatment. I countered that I am in pain and I should be able to take something to make the pain go away. What? Did he want me to live in pain ALL the damn time? He sure as hell did. That was most important to him. It didn't matter that I suffered from 3 separate chronic pain conditions + serious deep depression probably due to the chronic pain conditions. I had no support from my jerk family to speak of so I tried to commit suicide. Was in a coma for 5 days. I woke and called my brother because that was the only number I remembered. You know what? He hung up on me! Can you believe it? He hung up on me! Just don't let anyone take your joy away. Carefully review the meds you are on. I was on Lyrica for a really long time and it attributed to my suicide attempt and tremendous weight gain (Size 0 - 16) and depression. I finally got off of it and felt a little better but they put me on a really high dose of Lithium because Lithium is the one drug that is supposed to help counter suicide ideation. Well not in me. The more they gave, the worse I got. I started to run out, and I rationed them until my payday. I started feeling really good when I went from 5 pills to 3; even better from 3 pills to 1. The suicidal thoughts went away just like that. I had been suffering with them every single day from the moment I woke up, all damn day that I should just kill myself and be done with it. Then they magically disappeared! Thank GOD!!! There is a medical term for this phenomena but I don't recall the name. Sorry.

I hope that my lengthy book here helps someone with their issues. That is why I shared all that, not to be arrogant to read or tell about myself, only to help someone see that even when there are clouds or sucky family, you can still find your own kind of peace.

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Yes I've gotten off of dilaudid. For a while I was on 7, 8mg tablets a day for chronic arthritis. But lately with this opioid cut back they slowly over a few months tapered me down to 4, 4mg tabs a day. I really didn't get much pain relief from that and thought I'd get off it to see if it was even helping the pain at all. So I started cutting the pills in half. I got down to 2, 2mgs a day pretty easy. Then I cut them so I was on 1mg twice a day for about a week. Then I only took the 1mg when I felt withdrawal coming on. I got to where I was only on 1mg every day or sometimes a day and a half. After a week or two of that I stopped completely. A couple of times after I stopped I would feel a little withdrawal coming on but if I kept busy doing something like cutting grass or maybe washing the cars, something that took a couple hours it didn't really bother me. Then within a couple of weeks I was off with no problems. I found it was pretty easy cutting down pretty low but stopping the last little bit was the hardest part. But I would say I did it in about 6-8 weeks pretty easy. Good luck to you.

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i use RED VEIN MAENG Da which is kratom this will keep u from the place call the GRAVE. 3GRAM IN HOT WATER WITH HONEY AND THEN GO TO NARCOTICS Anonymous and ask for a SPONSOR and tell him or her u need help with Opiate Addiction MAY THE LORD BLESS U ON YOUR WAY OF STAYING CLEAN AND SOBER.

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I understand about chronic long term pain. I find myself thinking about dying just to escape the pain. Dilaudid 4mg-5mg,1-2x a day would help me. My pain is not as severe as some of the cases here. I pray that it doesn't degenerate to that stage. I have Cauda Equina pain and discomfort. May the Lord help us all. Many people just don't understand the agony.

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That is crazy there is no way this doc should be scripting u hydroromorphhyd!!! U can taper of buprenorphine there are .2mg pills!!! Dilaudid is a full opiate and buprenorphine is a partial opiate which makes it easier to come off then any other opiate!!!!!

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My spouse takes suboxone and went from serious addiction to 3x 8mg each day down to 3x 2mg He wanted of completely but does have other health issues. His doctor has him on Gabapentin or Lyrica and Nabilone which is synthetic THC pills. He is now down to 2mg to be weaned off completely in 6 months. This has taken over 6 yrs but he is a new man again and loving it. Good luck. Try the Lyrica, it is great for pain. Toradol is good but hard on the tummy. There are safer meds out there than to be maintained on pills that are handcuffed to your day to day quality of life. Best of luck to you.

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Yes I've tapered off of dilaudid. I didn't have the reactions you did. When I went a day or more without them I started getting edgey and restless and just couldn't lay down and relax. I always felt on edge. At ont time I was on 7 tabs of 8 mg a day and still had pain so I wanted to see if they actually did any good. It was easy to drop to a lesser dose. I went to 1 tab twice a day for 4-5 days pretty easy, then 1/2 tab twice a day for a few days then to 1/4 tab twice a day for a few days then 1/8 tab twice a day then 1/8 tab a day for a few days then I only took 1/8 tab when I started feeling withdrawal. Cutting down was pretty easy but stoping the last little bit was the hardest, I would still get edgey or figity. When I felt that I just tried to keep busy till it passed. Something more physical worked best like doing yard work or washing the car, etc. or go exercise if your into that. But then I was just able to finally stop. But the last little bit was definitely the hardest. As far as helping the pain they didn't actually do that much but they did take the edge off so now I'm back on 1/2 mg 4 times a day, could get by with 1/2 twice a day.

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No, the closest generic is oral morphine. I know this from insurance that wants to charge a premium for my oxy 40s.

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Jeez, how are you today? I'm on 30 milligrams 5 times a day oxycodone just because they did not like 40 milligrams of methadone/ 4- 10mg percs. my life has been in ruins every since my doctor had me on 240 milligrams of Oxycodone every day to compensate for only 60 milligrams of methadone how stupid what a fearful stigma against methadone my life as been in Ruins I have mental nothing I'd like to change to Oxycontin / Dilaudid a couple of months and see how I do on that.

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Dr. Stuart Finkelstein in California, Lakewood Hospital, is the only Dr. I know that can do a detox in a week in a hospital from any drug. He is amazing. His bedside manner is a little rough, but he is an excellent doctor. His phone number is 562-633-1765. If you make an appointment, you can tell him I referred you to him. His nurse was Sandy, I don't know if she is working any longer. Good Luck and God Bless.

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I enjoyed your post. I have had so many people judging me for taking pain meds. I have had cervical fusions 2 times, lower lumbar, 3 and now my thoracic is going to need surgery. People who are suppose to love me are not understanding. They think "it's back pain, get over it". They don't understand that it is so excruciating and if I do too much I am in bed for 2 days on ice. I can't sit more than hour or at most two before I have to lay down. There are times I even think about how nice heaven will be. It is nice to hear from someone who truly understands pain and why we are on the medicines we are on. I get nerve root ablations every two months, epidurals, sciatic inj's. I am on OxyContin MS x 2 and breakthrough of oxycodone. I have tried to get off and my quality of life is horrible. So, like you, I take my medicine so I can enjoy my children and grandchildren. I would like to know if it affects your sleep (medically and pain wise) and what you do? God bless you. I truly empathize with you. I pray you get better and I appreciate your post.

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You are so right and I truly empathize with you. I get the same treatment. Because I don't look like death or I'm not in the hospital, they think the pain is not as excruciating as it is. It hurts me deeply that my family either doesn't get it or don't care. I don't feel high or some kind of euphoria from my medicine, it just makes my life bearable and I do more than exist. I can't bend or sit without a lot of pain, have lost all strength in right arm and hand. I don't know how to get across to the people who are supposed to love me that I hurt and I am limited in things I can do. I appreciate your post and at least someone out there understands. God bless and I hope you someday get better. I'm sorry for your pain.

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