Biphetamine Treatment
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Originally used for weight reduction--it is available for treatment of ADD. I was originally prescribed it for the former, but found it more effective for treatment of ADD than other drugs such as ADDERALL. If not currently available through your company, can you provide sufficient information for pharmacists to formulate this.

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Re: bradan (# 7) Expand Referenced Message

I'm one who wants them back. The couple of years I was regularly on biphetamine were BY FAR the best years of my life.

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Re: Verwon (# 5) Expand Referenced Message

Do you mean to say that Adderall provides the same effects, including appetite suppression and euphoria as black beauties? I certainly doubt it.

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Re: echeeanoose (# 20) Expand Referenced Message


Just an update to your comments made on Feb 12, 2010 about Biphetamine 20 "Black Beauties". I do not doubt much of your story. However, your former employer "may" have been mismanaged, as you say. The facts are that, "Biphetamine 20 mg" became a not advertised "orphan drug" by Penwalt Pharmaceutical Corp. after the years 1978/1979+. Rochester NY. I know for a fact, that, I once knew (now retired) the likely most well known M.D in Dallas Texas, (Dr. Paul Elliott), a keynote speaker for ADDA.org and a national speaker, I recorded his one hour guest speaker tape in a big name hotel near Dupont Plaza in Washington DC in March of 1998. Dr. Elliott phrased the benefits of (now) Fisons Corporation (Rochester NY 14603) of target specific BIPHETAMINE 20 mg, NDC code 0585-0875 from at least the years 1960's until the year 1998. Dr Elliott had in the 1990's the largest number of patients who he treated for especially Adult ADHD, ADD, and Narcolepsy! (TX) He highly recommended RJS Biphetamine, Desoxyn, and Dexedrine, Dr Elliott had thousands of patients, over his very long career he specialized in ADD/ADHD! The 3rd top high quality ER stimulant I took from 1969 until, the present (2017) along with former, sadly, the Abbott Desoxyn Gradument / Desbutal Gradumet, methamphetamine and, finally, Smith Kline French Dexedrine Spansules, all have been discontinued, and are not on a orphan list, with the exception of Amedra Dexedrine Spansules 15mg but who in the world can afford 90 caps of 15 mg of Dexedrine Spansules for as much as ten dollars per pill AWP!!! and that is now an orphan drug!!! He was a strong advocate for the anti over-excessive language in the PDR's of the 1970's thru the 1990's, stating that the "big bold prints" by the National Academy of Sciences and the FDA, was short of hogwash, and, he was my hero! Most unfortunately, yes, Biphetamine production was halted later in the year of 1998.

I do not have a reference source available at the moment about post 1998, but, I am convinced that it was no longer an "orphan drug" beginning in the year of 1999, thus millions of US citizens, now, have IMHO been cheated of, one of the very best extended release and very smooth stimulants ever manufactured in the USA !! I am so sad that, the state of affairs in the past 7 years are so grim for very needy patients for the various neurological conditions as I have mentioned. It is a national tragedy IMHO that, the "stigma" continued to always hurt the sales of Biphetamine Black Beauties, that, yes goes back as far as 1974 to 1976! I personally experienced since the year 1969, especially since the year of 1973, that, Biphetamine 20 mg were very HTF because too many MD's including Psychiatrists were also affected by the stigma of the enormously popular Biphetamine 20 mg capsules, that, were so very common in the 60/70's, and it all quickly ended (prescriptions wrote per year) with a dramatic drop off in this C-II stimulant, from the year 1974 until 1976, and frankly for the duration of the existence of the next 24 years! The quality of manufacturers and choice of stimulants are a just a shadow of once was available to US citizens "now" compared to the late 1960's! Biphetamine had just 4 active major fillers, and many out there especially generic are stuffed with binders and fillers as many as 10 to 12 fillers in 2017!

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Fisons Corporation Bedford MA USA made the last Biphetamine capsule in the year 1998. They were the very very rare, but "final step up" of the exact same formula from the 1960's formula of the shiny Black Beauty 20 mg. embossed "RJS" by former Strasenburgh Labs of Rochester NY.

I once knew............................via a Washington DC national convention cira 1998, a now retired MD, who prescribed this med from the greater Dallas Texas USA region of USA, he used to be a keynote speaker for national ADDA conventions held once a year in the USA, (next convention is in Atlanta GA for November 2017).

The reason many on this forum state the Strasenburgh later "Pennwalt" eventually Fisons Pharm firms who made the real deals associate 1976 as the last year, is because IMHO that was the very last year, I personally had access to those well deserved famous Black Beauties, after that "Bicentenial Year 1976" I never saw one or had access to any, and, even the street availability of Biphetamine really dried up..........IMHO. Radical changes in the USA comparing 1971 to the year 1979 !!

I had ADHD but, some MD's would prescribe me Preludin, or Dexedrine, or once Desoxyn, but it was off label prior to the mid 1970's. It took me, a long dry run of begging USA Psychiatrists, finally in the year 1994 for the "Speed Stigma" to be removed by a very trusting USA Psychiatrist, as ADHD ADD, Narcolepsy, and Refractory Depression was accepted, and the "diet pill" abuse of the 1960's and early 1970's was finally removed.

I lost a solid 20 years of my adult life due to the stigma once attached to any USA stimulant, but was rescued in 1994 ( by this time I had hit the mile marker of age 40 years old + ......

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Yes, I well remember the Biphetamine-T which was a red and black shiny capsule of a upgraded Biphetamine 20 mg (Black Beauty) as mfg was Strasenburgh and the Biphetamine-T had methaqualone added to the resin complexes of d and dl-amphetamine "all as a cation exchange resin complexes of sulfonated polystyrene" quote from the 1968 Physicians Desk Reference, page 1131 of the 22nd edt published by Medical Economics Inc Oradell, New Jersey copyright 1967. The "T" stood for Tuazole (Methaqualone) and the embossment on both the red and black or the black beauty was a "RJS" the king of the hill from the mid 1960's until July of 1973, when the newly formed DEA banned the production of target specific combined stimulants with a sedative, with one exception, SKF's Dexamyl 5mg, 10mg 15 mg was given a reprieve from the DEA until SKF discontinued it in the year 1982. Also, Strasenburgh Labs, a division of Wallace and Tiernan Inc, of Rochester, NY was sold to Penwalt Corporation in late 1970 / and transitioned during the year 1971 During the 1990's Fisons Corporation, also of Rochester NY 14603 continued to manufacture the Biphetamine in the two strengths as Strasenburgh had since the mid 1960's, in a 12 1/2 capsule and the 20 all black shiney capsule, (the former was a 1/2 black and 1/2 white capsule) until, the end of calendar year 1998. That darn stigma from the diet pill late 1960's and early 1970's counterculture, is what caused, the ADD and ADHD MD's to shy away from prescribing this excellent stimulant, as, Obetrol, (later Richwood's Adderall) was to steal the show, along later with ShireUS who bought out Richwood around the year 2002. Thus, the famous black beauties are "Gone with the Wind" most unfortunately.... I was fortunate enough to have tried all versions in the early 1970's, and only the long deleted, Abbott Desbutal Gradumet 15mg of Methamphetamine added to 90 mg of Sodium Pentobarbital could compete with the "Red & Black" RJS/ later just Penwalt, Biphetamine T 20 mg! I got the very last of the combination stimulants with powerful sedatives, in June of 1973, as I could not get my RX filled in the following month July of 1973 due to that DEA ruling!!! I shall never forget!

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Supha, on Sun, Feb 02 '14, 4:00 AM - You Stated: "I just found some biphetamine capsules mixed in with an elderly family members things, they're completely black and the packages are still sealed. I'm wondering if the fact that they're from the '70s would matter much if one were to take them."

You can look up pill ID's on the internet by the numbers on those pills. They are similar to adderall but NOT the same.

Pharmaceuticals are DESIGNED and REQUIRED to be STABLE, and their potency falls very very little over time, especially when they are sealed so there is no air to dissipate? depotentiate?* over time. *(Not the exact word I'm looking for but you get the idea.)

I recall a study by some Harvard Professor who did drug evaluations on old meds like this and found something like ten year old pills in a plastic RX bottle in a med. cabinet in an A/C'd home only lost like 4 or 2% of their potency in that time. IMPORTANT - SEE BELOW.

As I recall, his conclusion was that none of the pills that he studied had weakened to the point that they would NOT pass the 'relative equivalence' percentages legally required of generics vs. Brand.

That drug evaluation may have played a role in a legal suit around 2015 by Louisiana's Atty. General against the big pharma companies, regarding the BS 'expiration dates' on meds.

Conclusion: Research and assume they are full potency and similar to Adderall. Take no more than one at first (and I would also do a 'taste check' by opening the capsules - as BB's/Biphetamines all were (as I recall- odds 91%) - to ensure that the one you taste does not taste as if it's 'gone bad.' [IMPORTANT: EXCEPT Antibiotics OR Antivirals].

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Biphetamine was NOT the same as Adderall! first of all Biphetamine was a 50/50 mix between d-amphetamine and l-amphetamine, where as Adderall is 75% d-amphetamine and only 25% l-amphetamine.

second of all, Biphetamine used a Strasionic ion exchange resin complex that allowed a smooth, controlled 12-14 hours of effects.

whether it's ice, crank, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, Adderall, or whatever - you will never find speed as smooth as Biphetamine was.

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These people don't know what their about. Adderall is not the same.I took b ip he taming from the 1960 till they were removed from the market. I was prescribed them because I was a narcoleptic. I know what I'm talking about.

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Dex for dexedrine long-acting capsules. Both ends black and perhaps 10 for the amt of mg.

They haven't been around since 1982; but ARE still being manf.
They're half black & half clear? I think...

This only pertains to the original Dexedrine caps & original manufacturer. Now with generics; they're more like white large-ish discs for 10mg regular release. Hard to know with all the generics these days!

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I am a narcoleptic Adderall Is not the same it made me feel like I was going to have a heart attack. Ever since they removed this from the market my life has been living hell.nothing I can do about it. What right do people have to remove this drug.there are people who do not abuse drugs.

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Adderall is NOT methylphenidate based - it's amphetamine based. Check your source..

Biphetamine is NOT the same as Adderall.

Bi (meaning 2!) phetamine was a mix of METHamphetamine & dexamphetamine...

Quite different indeed!!!

Methamphetamine was banned in ALL pharmaceutocals recipes before 1980. It sticks to different receptor sites that are way more sensitive & dangerous - esp in terms of addiction. I read somewhere that by the end of the war, Hitler was injected 4x a day with it... Poster child for a maniac.. lol!

I've been taking Dexamphetamine for almost 30yrs. Australia does not allow Adderall (yet, anyway). You *know* you need it when it makes you so calm, comfortable, & a lowering of anxiety that I have dosed off asleep if things got boring!

Ppl can't believe it.. I have pure ADD (w/o hyperactivity) & 55yr old female. I didnt like running around as a kid; but I was a big time daydreamer... to me school felt like an old soap opera... If teachers caught me & asked if I knew what the class was just doing - I just took a guess. 9 times out of 10 I was right. Classes ran so slowly for me! I used to think the other kinds were joking that they *didn't * know the teachers answer! I mean she said the same exact thing 20 different ways 20 times in 20 days... just like a soap opera..

Me, I played music in my head. Constantly. ADD kids are wired different - but don't always need meds; or in my sitch - needed the meds; didn't get them & came through alright anyway.

It was only after I was a Wall St software engineer in my 20's that it affected my life... & also why I never got addicted in 30yrs.

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I was very glad to read something from ANYONE who even came close to having a clue as to what they're talking about!! Way to go!!!!!

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hello everyone: back in the 80s my dr. prescribed Biphetamine to me for dieting, and i swear it worked. Now im 61 and need to lose 60 lbs. i would love to find some or something close to it. can someone pleaseeeee help me.

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My Girlfriends mother was still getting prescriptions for black beauties (Biphetamine 20) in 1979. We all lived in Southern Cal and we're all getting prescriptions we should not have been getting because we weren't overweight. I personally like the Preludes better (BI 62)

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Why is it , that if an adult chooses to use a substance , that happens to be controlled, or banned, that it is no longer use but becomes abuse?

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The 18-875 was a small black capsule that had a square with a triangle in the middle of the square. The numbers beside the square were 18-875. I used to get them in 1980 but were outlawed shortly after. I am prescribed Desoxyn and Adderall since that day for ADHD. No comparison to the Pennwalt "BLACK BEAUTY"!

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Yes, i took from 5-15 then cut myself cold turkey from somewhere around 180 mg a day, had hallucinations for a week in my dreams after that

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Uhh Dexedrine IS dextroamphetamine, sometimes referred to in the shortened form of dexamphetamine.....

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I just found some biphetamine capsules mixed in with an elderly family members things, they're completely black and the packages are still sealed. I'm wondering if the fact that they're from the '70s would matter much if one were to take them. Five of these hoes, whaaaat..?

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I continue to be amazed at the amount of misinformation on chat boards. Biphetamine is no longer manufactured. Biphetamine contained equal parts of amphetamine and methamphetamine. Adderall contains equal parts of mixed salts of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Methamphetamine is extremely potent and more toxic to the Central Nervous System than other amphetamines; it's still available by Rx under the brand name Desoxyn. People: Use a search engine, not a chat board and go to some reliable sites - Chat rooms are filled with people who are self-proclaimed medical experts but don't know their a** from their elbow.

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