How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 28)
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I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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YES... i HATE THE DOC THAT ALLOWED ME TO COME BACK TO THE OFFICE EARLY, EACH MONTH. ACTUALLY...LIKE 3-4 DAYS EARLY ON A 12 OR--14 DAY RX....I WAS EVEN GOING IN JUST TO PICKUP A SCRIPT FOR THAT DAY @!! YES-THAT DAY . I KNOW I AM EVEN...50/ 50 RESPONSIBLE..HOWEVER-AS THE 'PROFESSIONAL' THE DOC SHOULD HAVE TOSSED ME OUT THE DOOR....THE MAIN B**** IS THAT HE KNEW-AND WE'D HAVE LONG TALKS ABOUT DEPRESSION, PAIN ADDICTION. OVER AND OVER DAYS EARLY...WHO IN THEIR RIGHT ( MEDICAL PRO ) MIND--WOULD KEEP WRITING FOR A GUY THAT'S ,GOT IT BAD...(AND THAT AIN'T GOOD )...AND DO NOT TAKE SUBUTEX OR THE OTHER ONE THATS ORANGE AND NALOXONE IN IT TOO EARLY...AS THE ARTICLE READ...'IT PRECIPITATES WITHDRAWAL'...I MUST WAIT 22-25 HOUR BEFORE TAKING SUBS, OR THE OTHER..AND DOC SAID-THE SUBS DO NOT BLOCK AND PUSH THE OPIATES OUT OF THE BRAIN RECEPTORS....FALSE....BOTH ARE ACTIVE OPIATES MEDS. -THE NALOXONE IS FOR FOLKS THAT LIKE TO INJECT( I COULD BE A BIT FUZZY HERE- IF I WERE GONNA GET AWAY FROM THIS STUFF ( 8.5 YEARS FOR LEGIT. PAIN )..I WOULD GO TO OXYCODONE...(IR) REGULAR OLD IMMEDIATE RELEASE...IT GETS OUT OF THE SYSTEM FASTER..SP- DOES THAT MEAN IT HANGS ON FOR LESS TIME WHEN MOVING TO SUB'S ETC ??? IT SEEMS THAT THE LONGER HALF LIFE A MED HAS--THE LONGER IT WILL HANG ON IN YOUR SYSTEM..I HAVE READ MOST OF THIS...IF THE INFO. NEEDS CORRECTION, BE COOL ABOUT IT....I AM NO EXPERT... GETTING ON THESE MEDS....( I CANNOT TAKE ANY NSAIDS)...IS THE WORST-WORST F***IN THING I HAVE EVER DONE..____THAT IS ABOUT ME--I SPEAK FOR MER...AND THE PAIN HAS BEEN UNBEARABLE..AS Y'ALL KNOW...SO ONWARD FELLOW RXer's....

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DREMEL ??? I BET THAT WILL NOT BE PUBLISHED (WITH PHOTOS) IN POPULAR SCIENCE..OR MODERN GEEK, ETC...

YOU NUTS..BUT THE 'GOOD WAY'

OH--THE 'OLD 40's' WERE PRETTY BAD IN THE UPPER NOSTRIL / LOWER SINUS AREA...

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I BELIEVE THAT OPANA, LIKE OXYCONTIN, HAVE BEEN 'REFORMULATED IN ORDER TO STOP ABUSE...(SNORTING)..MY FAVE. THERE IS QUITE THE RITUAL INVOLVED IN THE SNORTING...CRUSH, TAMP, RAZOR-CHOP...MAKT THE LINES, PLAY WITH LINES, ETC.NO JOKE...IF I COULD SNORT MY BLOOD PRESSURE MED.'S I PROBABLY WOULF (JOKE)..I KNOW OTHERS THAT ALSO FIND ENJOYMENT IN THE 'RITUAL' OF PREPPING MEDS. FOR SNORTING..."INSUFFLATING" IS THE TECH. NA ME FOR SNORTING... ,,.ANYWAY, WHEN FOLKS OD..OR GET CLOSE...I GUESS THE FEEDBACK AND PRESSURE FROM THE INDUSTRY PERSUADE THE MAKERS TO 'REFORMULATE' THE DRUG...I WONDER WHEN OXCODONEWILL BE REFORMULATED IN ORDER TO STOP INSUFFFLATING BY THE 'PART' OF THE PAIN --TAKING PUBLIC...I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A MONEY MAKING MOE BY ENDO. I WAS TOLD--( SO MUCH FOLKLORE ABOUT THESE DRUGS)--THAT OPANA WILL GO BACK TO OLD WAY IN SEPTEMBER...I DO NOT HOLD ANY FAITH IN THAT...

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man they always f***in up sum s*** don nottin work now its al over is this s*** a dream....

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i used the sandpaper wheel from my Dremel tool to sand the opana 40 er down. Do it in a deep pot and pick out the fibers(swallow these) then blow nose until clean and dry. Then snort gently in little piles. S*** in some cases it hits so hard its scary! Be cool,only every 8-10 hrs. It works .immed.w/d relief and about 10 min maximum to a little happy-time. dont do more than half at a time cause youll need the rest later. just grab em with pliers and bend em back and forth until they break in half. sand off coating and dump it(just crap anyway) the next day youll have a badly plugged nostril i bet they put something in the new stuff to plug u up but damnit we do as we must. i ended up using alot less than old school opana er so tolerance dropped. i get 60 per month. i refill tomorrow and still have 12 left. good luck All... we are who we are and anyone who criticizes us can go get f***ed! peace,love and togetherness

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thx im going to try it... i agree those who dont like it mind your dam business its not your life to comments stay off these sites if you cant handle what is being said!!!!! my life i can live it and do what ever n how evern i please!

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SORRY..... MEANT PAIN LEVEL NOT PAID LEVEL

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I would agree. I have been on OPANA ER 30 for several years and they worked well. Did not have to crush to get pain relief. However, I have been on the new tablets for about a week, and my paid level is way up. They appear to be doing little to help. I am a veteran who has a partial stomach and only about 2/3s of my intestines from a war injury. The tablets actually pass through and come out in my stool a sticky lump..... I don't believe I am getting but a small amount of the meds..... I have started taking 5 of these a day just to get some relief..... I doubt ENDO thought about this when they redid the formula..... Any suggestions?

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SWIM got ahold of these new opana 40 er's. I did exactly what was said... and I can say that it is true that this works! A lot better than waiting around 6 hours to feel just a little bit... Just empty all but a little bit of the Afrin left in the bottle, mix a warm or hot tbsp of water, and cut up as many small pieces of the opana and let sit for 30-40 mins.. (i shook the bottle a little here and there to make it mix up) and THERE YA GO! I sprayed 3-5 times and got an almost immediate relief of my chronic pain.. I mean it was alotttt better than taken it orally... I opened the bottle to see how it all looked, and i could see the solution had become quite sticky but still "liquidy" enough to spray some out.. And the best part is, that i still have A LOT left. Just posting to let you guys know that I experimented with the "recipe." Check it out for yourselfs and let me know how it did for you too. I almost tried the way Alisha said, but seemed really drawn out and I was around too many people to be doing something like that as long as it woulda taken, to be in the bathroom lol. maybe ill try that later tonight with the other one I got... GOOD LUCK

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First off I hear alot of people have been taking Opana for pain. What is the pain everyone is having? Back pain? Leg pain? RSD Pain? There is many other medications that work well for them sort of pains also. I have never been prescribed OPANA and i know that a lot of insurance companys make you pay alot for them. What is not covered by them. It is a rediculous amount of money. If they work then i can see paying it. But now that they have changed the pills so that you do not get the same relief I would try to change to another type of medication and let OPANA go down the hole. Maybe they will come back to the way they use to be just like when Netflix raised their price everyone stopped paying for it. Then they lowered their price and are begging people to come back. Just my opinion. I have never been prescribed OPANA but definitly have tried it. It worked very well for my RSD and i did find that snorting them worked a heck of alot better and longer. My doctor prescribes me 100mcg of Fentanyl patches. 2 patch every 72 hours. You want to talk about WITHDRAWL when you run out. Try running out of Fentanyl. Awful legs bouncing, diareahea etc. I would not wish that on my worse friend. I would try to get your doctor to put you on the Fentanyl patch . It works very well for pain. The only reason i run out monthly is because i get 10 patches for 30 days and change one every 3 days. But in the summer if you sweat. go swimming or it just does not stick you do not get the full effect and you will get withdrawls. I should ask for an extra 2 patches a month but afraid to because he said he would not up my medication. I might have no choice but to talk with him my next appointment cause of the sticking problems i have been having with these patches. They do work well and you also will get percocet or something for the break through pain. It took me a long time to decide to go witht he patch but now i am glad i did. Good luck to everyone out there now suffering with the new OPana's. Speak up so your doctor knows how awful they have become for you.

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Speaking of the patent .September 2012 Watson will be coming out with the old formula opana's.So we do have something to look forward to then.They are not allowed to have the new formula!!! If we could all hang in there with these sh***y new opana's for a couple months things may go back to normal in September!!!!!!!

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As I read through all of these posts, I am amazed at what people think Opana is, and does. I am sorry your situation has changed, and your going to be in severe WD's. But You must have known that you'd be paying the price for feeling good eventually. Opana, oxy, percocet, Methadone, etc are all basically the same thing to your brain. They can have different side effects on your body, but an opiate, is an opiate. They are all just like heroin as far as your brain is concerned. I am not judging anybody here. But you had to have known Opana would cause WD's if you stopped taking it. I think Endo, and the FDA are making a HUGE mistake in changing the pill design. It isn't going to keep people from needing and wanting opiates, heroin use will just keep increasing as safer alternatives are taken away. I just prey they leave the blue Roxys alone!
I can tell everybody on here, that wants their life back. that they really only have 1 choice. And that is Subutex. You will not find any pain relief, or pleasure from them. But you will feel "normal" suboxone is another brand of the same thing, but your going to have to dry out 1st. Or its going to be a few days until u reach normal.
You would be able to get the same feeling from lortabs, as Opana, if you took a lot of them. 1 Opana 40 is equal to about 20 lortabs 7.5s. So don't think there is any difference except the strength. But your still going to have the same WDs as Opana.
Anyone on here that wants their life back, and is SERIOUS, has 1 real option. The Subutex. And I would advise gettin on them, getting stable, and then cutting down over a few weeks. You do not need to take them for years, you can. But why? Your not going to have the energy of a normal person for many months. But eventually you'll be back to normal. If your serious, and not lying to yourself. Then you need to burn all your bridges. Tell your Dr the truth, so he'll never give you another script, delete any friends who could hook u up from your phone. And get going.
Certain Dr's can prescribe subutex. And there are recovery houses that'll sell it to u. But they are a pain in the a**, you have to go in every morning. But a Dr can prescribe you a month supply at a time. Your insurance will even pay the Dr, and pharmacy bills.
It your in legit pain, and eat the pills, but don't like the new Opana, your Dr can try some other alternatives like diluded, or fentynal. But any addicts, like myself, that want their life back. Need to look no future than subutex. It will solve the WD problem, and get you by until your body gets use to life without opiates.
Just for the record, I have been on opiates for over 15 years. I have taken every kind extensively. And know the reality of this life. And subutex is a miracle drug! Many people compare it to methadone, and its not even the same sport. MD is just another synthetic opiate. Only its been designed to last 24 hours. Which is why it has the worst withdrawles. They last months, not weeks. And are very severe. And xanax, and other benzo's may make the WDs a little more tolerable, but just bearly. and can have worse WDs. So its not worth messing with them.
PLEASE! IF YOU SERIOUSLY WANT YOUR LIFE BACK, IGNORE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW S***, AND GET A PRESCRIPTION FOR SUBUTEX!

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you will be better off getting a couple subs. If you cant get any more op's. The suboxone is great and gets me through every month! My Dr. wont give me anything till it's time! The subs actually help me from getting the anxious feeling and I dont get sick if I have those. Try to get the strips they work much better! GOOD LUCK.........

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Yes the strips r better but I dont stay on the suboxone I use them for a week n a half r two to get through the WDs n then get off of them.

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I agree with you! The suboxone is great for the withdrawl, but try to get a dr. to give you a script with your opanas to relieve the withdrawl when your out! lol But really they do work! The strips are much better than the tabs.

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How r u able to get them ground down without getting sandpaper in them. And what do i ask for At the store? R there different kinds of sandpaper?
Im happy for you that u r having successs with them!

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I have been taking opana ER 40 mg for about a year now and I do snort them. I don't really care what anyone here thinks about that I'm not here to argue. But for those of you who have the new formulation and want to snort it this is what you do: get a piece of VERY course sandpaper. I use 60 grade sandpaper. Now this will take some time but trust me it does work. Grind the pill against the sandpaper for as long as it takes to break out an adequate dose. It will take some time as these new pills are very hard. However, once you grind it down and snort it I must say, the new formulations are VERY strong. I still prefer the old pills cause they are just so much easier to crush but the new ones really are good when u can snort em. Hope this helps.

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Thank you all for your comments- I'm not quite ready to stop- just got new prescriptions again so will try again when they run out. Ugh- good and bad news I guess. FYI- the Oxymorphone 10mg IR (generic for the Opana IR) are crushable and, for reasons I don't quite understand, work as well as the Opana 10mg ER when shorted/chewed/etc. Also, cheaper. Often the doc will switch you to the IR when you are trying to cut back unless you are known for being to early to request refills and they want you on extended release. To the person going through withdrawls because you are a week early for your pain doc- go see them. Tell them the new Opana is not working and you started having withdrawls when taking the normal dose so had to take extra. If you are interested in getting off the Opana- the Fentanyl patch does work. You will have withdrawls if you are completely out of Opana while waiting for the patch to kick in- takes about 36 hours to start. But you will feel decent after that. It works best if you can have one day overlapping with the Opana and Fentanyl patch. It is also extended release but will not work quite as long as they say. I tried that and now wiosh I would've stuck with it instead of going back to Opana. But here I am again.

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Alisha I feel.the exact same way. Im.done with these damn things. And u r right nothing comes close to the damn things. I was shocked how much worst the WDs were from.opana than oxy. Oxy WDs r awful.too but nothing compares to the damn opana.
ive decided Im going to just get on Oxy 80s n lortabs for by. The lortabs dont really Help but i dont want roxicodone cause thats to much temptation to abuse. With the oxy 80s n lortabs they can only b swallowed, and even though the oxy r abuse proof n not near what they used to be they do still provide some relief. These New opanas do NOTHING for pain. And besides the WDS the other side effects r just horrible. I bet u in 3 to 5 years we r going to b hearing those commercials cause they r causing cancer n death. I hope Endo goes bankrupt.
im praying for u n hope u will pray for me as well.

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Donna, I just want to encourage you to hang in there. This is awful, it really is, but it will pass....I have got to believe this and it has to. I don't know about you, but I'm done with Opana completely and I know what you mean about being out until next appt. with doctor. I just can't get the thought out of my mind that this s*** isn't worth it. Yes, I do have legit. pain, but this sickness is overwhelming the pain. I just want to be off of these things. They can put me on something different. The good thing about being out is this: I can start a new medication and not have this HORRIBLY high tolerance that nothing will help. Now that they have changed the Opana, I havent' had any quality of life period. Between trying to figure out how to get it to work and then the whole plugging thing, not to mention the even higher tolerance that I got from plugging, this has caused more than pain ever has. I am keeping in mind that no matter what, I am off of them. They helped me before, but I refuse to ever go through this again. Endo can keep their new ones and I am not gonna do something so stupid as to go to another doctor and get kicked out of my pain program. This whole new Opana thing has made me re-think it all.
Hang in there Donna, I am doing the best I can to keep thinking about when I will be better and that I will NEVER go through this again.

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