Clonazepam Help Me (Page 21)

I have always used the same brand of clonazepam. However they changed what is in the medication. I've been gravely ill because my body can't take the change. Now I want to not take it any longer because it's making me ill. How can I detox slowly if I don't have a decent batch of clo that agrees with me? If anyone has any real information please let me know. I'm ill feeling every day if I take it it makes me ill and get withdrawal If I don't take it I get still getting withdrawal.

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Re: NCgirl73 (# 400)

Thanks for trying to help. As I stated in my previous messages the Mylan brand is the only one that helps me and they are continuously on backorder. I pray that you will be able to recover from your additions and find peace and good health. God Bless.

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Re: Sarah (# 3)

Never EVER stop cold turkey as benzodiazepines withdrawal can result in fits and strokes. Look up the Ashton manual and start cutting using that way. It’s tried and tested and I wish I could tell you it would be easy but it’s not. You will feel desperate, tearful, chronically depressed and may need time in a unit, as I did. Both clonazepam & Ativan AKA Rivotril AKA Klonopin are two of the worst to cut down from. I am now stable on just 10mg of Diazepam and am staying on that. I wish you all the luck in the world. It’s so hard as we start taking them to help with anxiety but we end up taking them to feel normal and they are oil soluble so end up in muscle and bone. Maybe you have a group like battle against tranquilizers where you are? Please do tell your GP as they know this is a huge problem & most are very kind in helping. What you need to do is to find the total amount you take and the Ashton manual helps you do that, you then go over fully to Diazepam as it has a long half life and stops the withdrawals. You then basically cut 10% every 5 to 6 weeks and it’s not so bad that way. I really wish you all the very best.

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Re: Jools (# 402)

Thank you so much for your information very thoughtful of you. Unfortunately when I changed doctors three years ago my doctor tried to do just that. He prescribed new meds instead of prescribing the clonazepam and I ended up with lots of floaters in my eyes at once and the second time I tried to switch myself because Sandoz pharmaceuticals changed what was in there clonazepam and I tried to stop taking it because Sandoz and no other clonazepam was working right and were making me ill I ended up with a stroke that damaged my eyesight. Still suffering from the effects of these dangerous meds that the greedy pharmaceuticals companies are producing. Again thanks! But it's too late. Still trying to recover from the stroke. I hope that your posting will help others. God Bless.

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You’re very welcome and I hope you manage to cut down at the least or come off at best. Benzodiazepines now have shown to have a direct correlation to dementia and so I’m cutting again now. I’m down to 8 mg from 10. I just hope o can see it through as I just cannot sleep at all
Good luck and god bless you

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Re: JD (# 19)

Klonipin/Clonazapam are the sed for many reasons not just for anxiety. It is used by many for Essential Tremors and people with Parkinson's can use it also..

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Re: Jenn (# 396)

Hi Jenn, Thank you for your concern. It turned out that Mylan is no longer going to produce clonazepam and I happened to have some Accord from a while ago and I had no choice but to switch to Accord and they have been working well for me so far. I've been trying them for about three weeks now and thank God they are working well. However, the Teva brand definitely make me very ill. God Bless you for your concern.

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Re: Sarah (# 403)

Hi Sarah. Many many thousands, hundreds of thousands of people have found themselves in a complete mess due to lack of information and then, when actually knowing, the authorities and big pharma have colluded to stop us from finding out most of the worst things that can and do happen, to anyone of benzodiazepines. As far as I know & at time of writing, only in New Zealand has a class action that has been taken and won. I know money will not help us now but at least it would afford better trained doctors and methods of coming off of these drugs. The irony of them being sold as *mothers little helpers* is something that makes me laugh now, it wasn’t always so and I was so very angry that the doctors not only denied my problems being down to withdrawal but they had me suffer epileptic fits and I’ve now got Wegeners granulomatosis and I believe this is down to the overly fast way in which the doctors took me off.

I was very blessed to find a group here in the U.K. that came with me to one of my doctors appointments. The Dr was unable to just get rid of me, as was usual but he was given a lesson in humility and a lesson on how these drugs work and even when you have taken your last dose, it can be found both in muscle and bone for up to 5 years after. Had I known then what I know now, I’d have never touched them. I had a successful cutting regimen and I would strongly advise you web search the Ashton manual for cutting benzodiazepines and follow it. It has an equivalency chart so that you know what dose of ANY benzodiazepine is the equivalent in diazepam as they advocate going over completely to diazepam as it has a much longer half life and so makes cutting much less dangerous.

My life has been a living hell. I have not been able to build relationships like others, I fear being in large groups and I tend to hide away. I suffered none of these things before I started on the hellish tablets. I was in such a bad place. I was, by any name, a prisoner on prescription. If they tagged me, it wouldn’t have made a difference. I had, still don’t, have a social life and I could really write a book on it but I will leave it there. My final words would be to not think about stopping completely at first but finding a dose at which you feel stable and not on edge. If that is where it stops then at least you are minimizing the damage. I wish you all the very best luck in the world. May god bless you and your family.

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Re: Sarah (# 20)
I have been taking Klonipin(clonezepam) for several years now and I thi nk they changed my Manufacturer for mine as well.I always freferred valium to Klonipin anyway,however my physician said that valium was much ore addictive and dangerous.I don't know about that,however I find myself taking several klonipin at night to try and get some sleep.I think I will go to another Physiciand who prescribes valium for my Aunt.I just think it's a better medjication and I NEVER took more than the prescribed dose UNTIL NOW.

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Re: Martin McFadden (# 408)

Clonaazepam is the more addictive and you build up a tolerance quickly. Going over to Valium ( diazepam)would be much better as the half life is much longer. It easier to cut down and come off of with diazepam as well.

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What do fake Clonazepam look like? My friend had a pill that says 93 833 on one side and a line on the other side. It was lime or light green and round. Are these fake? If so, how can you tell?

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Re: Liz (# 410)

Try to check on the internet what the image of the clonazepam1mg Teva brand looks like.

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Re: Sarah (# 3)

Agreed.. something drastically wrong with Sandoz Clonazepam.

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Re: 5 things on the internet which is very John Milton (# 8)

Go to {edited for policy reasons} I’ve been using the site for 6 years for stuff my GP would prescribe but is held back by new laws in the U.K. I have Crohn’s, SMA (spinal muscular atrophy) and disc degenerative disease but the killer is I have what used to be called Wegeners granulomatosis or now GPA. Granulomatosis with polyangitis, they changed the name because Dr Wegener was a Nazi party member but most were, to save their lives.

This next part goes to ALL people on benzodiazepines - newsflash, the pills are not different but your tolerance is. I’ve filled cheap Galenika from Serbia and they are superb as is their Xanax and every other med they make. Unless you are like me and this poster, then my advice is to look up the Ashton manual for slowly cutting back your benzos. The fact is that we will always find something wrong rather than admit our addiction. Sorry if this offends but I did it and came off in a year. That is considered a quick detox from benzos! The body gets used to any benzo and it manifests itself in many awful ways.

I am 54 and my use of benzos ruined my 30’s and 40’s. I now take morphine but I’ve no choice due to the diseases though I now only take 10mg of diazepam only, even though I could have much more prescribed, I don’t want to go back to the hell I was in when using benzos in handfuls and as and when I felt like it. I was very much a prisoner on prescriptions.

Good luck to all but please understand that the generics have to pass stringent tests by your FDA or they would not be allowed to prescribe them. For me, I used to say x or Y Clonazepam was not right but,fact is, it was me who got used to and wanted what I was used to. I’m sorry if this offends some but it’s the addiction and not the pill, really.

Good luck and god bless you all

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Asak your physician,be it psychiatrist or M.D. to try another anti-depressant such as valium or zanaz which would help you get off the klonipin smoothly and might be better suited for you

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Klonopin or clonazepam only requires 1.5 to 3 mg per DAY. Valium or Xanax would be more appropriate for 10 mg but it is FAR too much for Klonopin.

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Please look up the Ashton manual for benzodiazepines and do as it says, exactly. You will be ok and it may take over a year or more but you will get through it. It basically gives you the equivalent dose of klonopin but as diazepam, as diazepam has a much longer half life. I’m not having a dig at you but please believe me when I say it’s not the pills, it’s the addiction and your tolerance. Good luck.

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Re: NCgirl73 (# 400)

Not in your country but look up battle against tranquilisers. I hope you have something similar

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Re: Jools (# 413)

Admit our addiction? This is so ridiculous. I see three doctors, pain, pst, psych, at an addiction medicine practice. If I were addicted to any of this stuff I would be detected.

Strange I never ask for more meds in order to "chase a high."

I may have to be stepped off of benzos, but that is dependence and not addiction... much different things.

You need to be careful who throwing around terms like addiction, especially when casting a mass-blanket over all use and users, which is not appropriate without being a doctor and examining a given patient.

Is their no severe anxiety? If so, how is it treated?

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I was given teva 833 brand when I formerly took Sandoz E64.They're both generic however I find the Sandoz to be infinetly more potent and measurably more effective

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Try the generic brand from Accord. It has binders that make the medicine act differently than other generics. Like Teva uses cornflower which breaks down slowly. Look at the ingredients that are not the actual medicine as they can really make a difference. I was struggling like you until my pharmacy changed to this brand. I was suspicious until I tried one and it was soooooooooooo wonderful to find relief. Everyone reacts differently, but I hope you can try this brand. Wishing you the best!!! Hang tight!!!!

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