What Is The Difference In Opana And Morphine (Top voted first)

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just wanted to know if there is a difference between the 2. I am perscribed morphine sulfate er 15 mg twice daily. My neck has been operated on a few times so i have severe pain daily. I forgot my pills at home over the weekend. My mother is perscribed Opana 10mg. She gave me one and it seemed to work better. Wanted to know if there is a difference between the 2. I am not sure how to go about asking my dr to switch me. Don't want her to freak about my mom giving me one of hers...

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I'm 28 with chronic pain for almost 16 years and a tentative diagnosis of Stiff Person Syndrome as well as some slipped discs in my spine, rheumatoid arthritis in my spine, a missing bone in my lumbar spine, and severe muscle spasms. I get that B.S. "You're too young for....(whatever)" even to the point that a spinal surgeon, supposedly the best in the state, told me come back when I'm 40!!! That was about 5 years ago. Another has told me I'm too young and must have been abused as a child to have so much "pain" which was said in such a condescending tone I knew he thought I was just a junkie needing a fix. I have loving parents and was never abused and spent the entire 45 minute drive home crying hysterically to my LOVING and SUPPORTIVE mom and dad. My local ER turned me away TEN TIMES thinking I was a junkie until I refused to leave the 11th time---the next day they tried to get me to leave by telling me I didn't want to go thru the pain and risks of exploratory surgery. I jumped on it and they discovered an issue that apparently would have killed me within 2 weeks. I had been trying to get answers for 3months at that point....if they would have turned me away again I wouldn't even be typing this and my 2 young daughters would be orphans. These doctors need to stop treating patients this way. I don't want to sound dramatic or insult anyone in any way, but I HIGHLY doubt they would tell a pediatric cancer patient their too young for it and turn them away with a cold shoulder. It's disgusting. I normally don't post on stuff, just read to try and find helpful things, but everyone seems to be having such similar experiences and it breaks my heart. Yours especially....I WISH I could tell my body that I'm too young for this: not kidding, I literally have but it didn't listen. Compassion and empathy should be REQUIRED courses for every medical degree, in my opinion. If they've never experienced it or dealt with it they can be so harsh and judgmental.

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I have had 5 cervical surgeries in the past five years. The end result has been the fusion of C3 to T1. Unfortunately, I still suffer from pain and after every surgery he goal is to become pain free yet I end up with a different source of pain and further complications because of the added levels being fused. Right now most of my pain is at the base of my skull. My surgeon says I have occipital nerve pain and the cause is due to the increased strain placed on the two remaining levels at the top of my spine. The only resolve would be to have my spine fused to my skull. I do not want to have that procedure yet. Here is my question. I have been on the same dose of morphine which is 30 mg ER 3 times a day and 30mg IR 4 times a day for three years. Prior to that I was on a Fentynal patch but developed sensitivity to the adhesive glue of the patch. Honestly, while on the patch, that was the only time I was really almost pain free. The conversion from the patch to morphine is the dosage I have been on like I said for three years now. I have tried not to increase my dosage and basically lie to the doctor about my pain scale. I tell him I am at a 6 and I accept that but since my last posterior surgery to re-fuse C3-C4 and C6-C7-T1 and the palcement of rods. My pain has slowly increase to the point that I am not able to tolerate much more pain. It is affecting my life now to the point that my quality is decreasing fast. The surgery, only 7 months post-op now did work and was successful. However with the change of the anatomy and the mechanics of my neck, the pain I feel will always be with me. I see my doctor on Thursday and I am going to tell him about the increased pain. I do not think that morphine works on me any longer. Is this possible. Can the body just stop working with morphine, no matter what the dosage is. If so, what can I take. I would love to go back on the patch but know that within 6 months I will get the welts and rashes from the glue. Is there a drug that would provide me relief similar to the patch? Any advise on this and how to approach my physician about the increase pain and decreased quality of life. If it helps, I am very strict on my medicines. I take it as prescribed, never abused, ran out of or taken more than I should. I am not an addict, I am just dependant on these opiates to make my life worth living. Thank you. I look forward to your advise.

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Hi. I feel so bad for you guys. 3 yrs ago I lifted a heavy motor up on my shoulder for work and popped 2 disks out in my neck. C3.c4. And had them fused. And in Jan this yr. I slipped on ice at work and popped 2 more disks out and cracked one of the bones. I haft a say some of these drs. Have no compassion. They think we're all drug addicts I think. Sometimes I do wish it on them. Just so they'll know what real pain is and how it feels to be treated like a drug addict. Although it's not nice to wish bad things on people. I just wish the got would keep there nose out of things and that drs learned compassion.

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You are so right. Dr's these days want to put ppl with chronic pain in a box and think we are all just addicts looking for a fix. But if that was the case then we would get it off the streets like junkies do but we don't. We do the right thing and pay them for doing nothing but looking down on us. Sometimes I'm too embarrassed to tell my true pain level bc I don't wanna be characterized as an addict and that's truly sad. In my opinion if pain specialist have never had personal chronic pain issues then they can't tell me how to deal with mine. And I hate when a Dr tells me that I'm to young to have chronic pain. What the hell does my damn age have to do with my pain level
F***ing i****s.

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They might be getting shut down by the DEA for not following protocol on other patients and by her telling you to find somewhere to go was a hint and warning because she knows your a real pain patient and not abusing or doing things illegally , the DEA are going after docs that don't do exams and prescibe even if dirty UA and known abuse, because those docs are all about the money they are making cuz of the self pay patients

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I feel for you. I fell 4 stores a few years back and destroyed my left hip leg and knee plus 1 year ago I was in a car accident and was thrown out of the car destroyed my right arm hip leg and knee i now have more metal in me then I can type. I spent 5 months in the hospital on OxyContin and deludid. I came home in a wheelchair went to my doctor and he allowed his glorified nurse to treat me. She gave me morphiansulfate 30 mil twice a day as if that was going to help. I took a pill i had from before I was thrown out of the car and when I went back to tell them what she gave me was a joke I had to give a u/a and because it came back with my former med they put me out. I want to throw them off a roof then off the car doing 70 and ask if they May need something for pain. I don't abuse the crap I just want to be able to allow my grandsons to be able to sit on my lap without cracking my teeth. And try and find a new doctor and tell them you need pain meds they won't even talk to you. Iam so sick of it but what can anyone do. There are so many jerks selling and abusing meds that people who need them help can't get it.

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Hi i suffer from chronic pain,and have for many years now, i have been on the fentynal patch at one time and that was just prior to my cervical fusion of 3 discs. i didn't like the way it made me feel, i had been upped on the dosage, and was up to 100mg/3day and my surgeon was not happy that i was on this, i told him that i was in the process of working my way off of it when i was seeing him just prior to my surgery, but he decided to go ahead and do the surgery anyway, gave me the fentynal during the actual surgery, and i was in the ICU overnight, only to be snatched off it the very day after, and i went thru serious withdrawal symptoms, and he could have cared less, i just prefer to never go back to them, i am now on morphine 30mg, (150mg a day) and oxycodone 10- 3x day and my problem, is this, while nothing gets me completely pain free, i am able to tolerate things at a bearable rate, even with some of the pain, but this is my dilemma, i am a medicare person, i am disabled, and the pain clinic that i go to, has decided that they may possibly END their contract with Medicare due to the fact that Medicare has decided to stop paying for IN-House Labs, but are willing to pay for labs to be done, only they have to be sent OUT, to an Outsource lab, but this company is probably gonna end their contract with MEDICARE, and that basically leaves me OUT.. i have no idea what i am gonna do?? and the crazy thing is this, the PA that i see, was all over the place when i went in the last time, she tried to say she had to "change" my version of Morphine, and i said, that's Ok, b/c she said it was the DEA doing it, and repeated that over and over, and yet Never changed it. then she said, i didn't have any of the oxycodone in my body the last time i gave a UA, which is simply Not True, then that's when she told me about the Medicare issue, and i asked what that meant?? i asked did that mean that i needed to find another dr? and she said yes, also while in the midst of this conversation, she told me that she "HAD" to "Change" me from the Morphine to the Fentynal Patch, "b/c the Morphine wasn't taking care of my pain" i do NOT want to do that, but i told her i would rather deal with some of the pain and Not go on the patch, but long story short she wanted to put me on that Patch, and in the very next sentence told me that "I needed to find somewhere else to go". My questions are this, Where should i go? and WHY would she want to put me on "something stronger" when she is Not thinking she is gonna be the one to continue to prescribe them and Monitor them?? i am left out in the cold so i feel, does anyone have any suggestions, and can she just "drop" me, i'm thinking that she tried to say that there wasn't any "oxycodone" in my body just so she could "cut me off" me without having to provide service to me any longer and not refer me to someone else?? maybe i'm just 'Crazy" lol.. but it is a Serious Matter to me, she never followed through on anything she said that day, and yet she still prescribed my oyxcodone that day, "if' there "wasn't" any in my body, wasn't she "Not" supposed to give me anymore??? i do PRAY that this is Worked out, with their company and with Medicare, I do Wish that these People Voting on "MY HEALTH" would "talk" to some of us that DO SUFFER with TRUE CHRONIC PAIN... i don't wish it on them, but sometimes i think i'd like for them to "Try" to "walk a day in my shoes" it's NOT EASY by any means.. PLEASE HELP if you can, THANKS :)

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I took 200mg morphine 3X daily and 15mg oxys as needed for about two years. It stopped working FOR SURE! Couldn't help I took the oxys at all. Finally my Dr changed me to opana. (1) 40mg &(1) 10mg twice daily plus 10mg IR as needed. It took a little while to build up to that but now my back feels better than it has since I broke my back 25 years and 3 surgeries 18 pieces titanium 2 fake discs and a spinal cord implant ago. Sitting on my chair now I SOMETIMES feel virtually pain free. Opana doesn't give me a"high"/feeling but it knocks the pain OUT! BEST THING ANYBODY'S EVER DONE FOR MY PAIN!

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I have RSD and am on the fentanly patch and use opana for breakthrough pain. I used to use Actiq which is oral fentanyl lollipops but recently I heard that there is a fentanyl pill. You may want to ask about those.

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Opana contains the active ingredient Oxymorphone and it is actually stronger than Morphine. So, the one 10mg tablet that you took was actually equal to taking 30mgs of the Morphine, at once.

They are both narcotics, so the side effect profile is similar and can include: nausea, dizziness, drowsiness and constipation.


It is always best to be honest with your doctor, but yes, it may cause some issues if you tell them you took something that isn't prescribed for you. Are you under a pain treatment contract?

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I don't have a problem with my p/m Dr. or my surgeon giving me what I need for pain. What I have a problem with are the finger pointing pharmacies. My Dr. recently changed me to Opana. I went to six different pharmacies. Not only did they not have the medication but they would not order it. They looked at me and asked me why I needed such a strong medicine. I pretty sure I don't need to explain my health issues to a pharmacist and everyone else in the store. After two weeks I finally found a small independent pharmacy that would order it. It still took over a week. This wasn't the first time. I understand that pharmacy s don't want to stock this medication. But as a patient what the hell are we supposed to do.

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Do not tell your doctor that your mother gave you one of her pills. You could ruin your mothers ability to keep getting pain meds for sharing and you would be considered noncompliant by taking your mothers pain meds and you both would be cut off from pain relief. You just need to ask your doctor about it by telling your Doc that your mother takes Opana and you want to know what the diffrence is because she seems to get better pain relief than you.

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I agree. We r not all drug addicts
Most of is don't WANT to e on these heavy narcotics every day. But we have no choice. (Going in for c5-c6 fusion next week bc I'm tired of pain meds and building a tolerance to them.
Plus side effects of opana are killing me. I vomit regularly on them. I'm allergic to everything else.

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Just know this - sometimes it doesn't come up on your u/a. I think my Dr said it appears as oxycodone at the lab...? It is a component of morphine (hydromorphone)....? They can tell the "parent drug" it comes from. Best to refer to the pros on that one. I don't mess around AT ALL, I read a horror story about someone being kicked out of PM because it didn't appear on their u/a and the Dr thought they weren't taking it (selling it).

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I empathize with you complete say and think that very wish very often. If only you could walk a day on my shoes....
My pain management doctor I had been seeing for nearly for years fired me as a patient for missing an appointment... I was in the hospital. The way the lady called to. Me you would've thought I was abusing my medicine or somehow being dropped for having done something wrong. I looked for a new pain management doctor and was scared because I've heard stories about new pain management doctors not wanting to help you because you have been let go from another. I truly wish I had found this group that I see now 4 years ago or however long it's been because it's like night and day. Their staff is super friendly, the doctors are very understanding and thorough, and I am not made to feel like I am a drug seeker. Best of luck to you.

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I feel for you. I too have been treated like more of a criminal for being sick than a patient. I think Chronic pain suffers get a bad rap. I must say thank God for the doctors that take this on in running a pain clinic. They are a dying breed! Opiate use is an epidemic and real pain patients are being looked at as culprits to this and I'm some are. To make a long story shorter SOMEONE NEEDS to stand up for chronic pain patients! We just want to live a more comfortable life while we can and PLEASE show us some compassion. Thanks for listening. Multiple Sclerosis since 1999, 1 lower back surgery with metal fusion, 2 herniated discs which I was just told last week that can't be operated on because I have Cervical spinal Myleonacia (no cure). We are regular loving people in pain!??

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I have had similar issues with no surgeries. I broke my neck when I was 16 and have essentially been in chronic pain ever since, now 53. I have had 2 on my L4-5 and L5-S two surgeries two days apart. Pain level increasing as the government is telling doctors to get everyone off of pain meds. I do epidural blocks in my neck and tolerate them OK, not great but OK. But every month I run out of meds for the fact at early last year they cut 4/5's out of my pain regime. Now rather than give me the muscle relaxer that works, (Soma) I have to suffer through month after month of no relief crap, while on Opana 30 twice daily and oxycodone 15 up to 4 a day. So the way I run is I am out ten days to go, then I have a stash of a few each and take em before my appointment. Which sucks ass for almost ten days.
So now what I keep hiding because i have separate issues and can't get the right help?

Completely not looking forward to the future... of pain like this

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Hi! I have 2 plates 14 screws and 3 titanium rods in my spine. I know the pain you have. 1 Dr told me I didn't need pain meds because when my u/a came back I didn't have any narcotics in my system. He told me to find another Dr (I too am on Medicare for disability) no place would take me because of that. Luckily my husband started working @ ups so I now have really good insurance. Anyway, I found another pain Dr. he's also takes my Medicare. He put me on 60 mg. of opana twice a day. It doesn't completely get rid of the pain but it does make it easier to get out of bed and do somethings. Sorry I know I've said alot and really may not have helped however, if you do find a Dr and can get on opana it is costly but the company will help so you can afford to take it. Without it my pain is 10 and with it its stays at 5.. You can also use an RX savings card and get discounts for alot of different pain meds. In the mean time if your lucky enough to live in a state that has this stuff called kratom it is a synthetic opiate you can buy in gas stations that works almost as good. Hope this help some.

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I've been on methadone 10mg twice a day and opana 10mg 3 a day but now the doctor has started decreasing my opanas and had already decreased my dones from 60mg to 20mg a day. My pain level has went up! I have been on these meds for 15yrs and really don't know what I should do. I can go to a pain clinic but if I don't like it or they give me less meds then I would be in a big mess!

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hi, I have been in pain for over ten years, started in lower back and now there are disks that have leaked all fluid out, pain management I began with probably could have had something surgercal done back then but instead they thought A morphine pump was what I needed and because I was in so much pain and had so many muscle spasms that I couldn't lay down but had to sleep standing against the wall rocking back and forth, it burned so badly and the spasms were horrific, now 12 yrs later I regret the pump and am completely off the morphine that was in it and see a pain doctor for past 3 yrs who got me off that pump, just can't find anyone to remove the thing but she had put me on 15mg of er morphine 2 x a day and 2 soma's for spacity and 5mg oxycodone for breakthrough pain and it was good for awhile but now am finding that I feel lethargic which is unlike me and am becoming depressed so I saw her today and told her the truth of how I feel and asked to be taken off morphine altogether and put on loratab everuy 6 hrs and she didn't like that obviously so she put me on something called oxymorphone 10mg er 2 x a day and took one soma away. I said isn't that the same as morphine cause it sounded the same, I left her office crying cause I feel like I'm never going to get away from morphine unless I get some miracle healing from Almighty God. I hope oxymorphone will not make me feel lethargic, I would lay awake for hours just starying at the wall, not able to move, sure it takes pain away but I can't function like that and I know loratab 7.5 ever six hours do not make me feel lethargic but she said it's against the law now to prescribe loratab 4 times a day, that all she could give me is two and that wouldn't take the pain away I know especially after being on morphine. I don't know what to do, I feel depressed and am beginning to not want to leave my house and I haven't felt depressed in many years and this is even worse. I told her I'd try the oxymorphone for 1 month and see if there is a difference, can anyone give me advice concerning this, thank you for help and I appreciate that I am not alone in this in reading some of your replies and posts.

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