How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 13)
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I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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Hello Bob...There are no worries on here, or about any more issues on my side...It was about a prior pain clinic doctor that I had went to..His place was a new pain clinic you see, and down here in Florida, new clinics now are registered obviously with the DEA and have to comply with any questions they may wish to come in and do what they wish within I believe a couple years of opening. So my previous pain management doctor was signing his name on random patients saying he dismissed them because they were taking other drugs while in his care, so that he said he dismissed them because he was "dojng his job correctly"...and wasnt researched further..well he did this to 4 other people including myself and it was not true..all of us was arrested for "obtaining or attempting to obtain narcotics" while in the care of a pain clinic doctor, WHICH WAS NOT HAPPENING, and we were arrested...

So....I found this out by my NEW Doctor and he told me that I was not the only person this happened to, i told my doc about what happened and told him I DID NOT DO THIS...He said it never said anything about that in my transfered records either...anyways, the other patients took him to court as I am, have won, and now are suing this doctor for fraudulent documentation, and a lot of other s***, because really Bob, when I and them was arrested it is humiliating to myself and my family...Very costly for a bondsman, and a third degree felony possible on my and their record...Well, the DEA is aware of his behavior now, hes in deep s***, and I am gonna fight and win my case now too, You best my sweet ass Im gonna get him for that s***.. I cant believe I was cought up in this kind of triangle, I only hear this stuff on TV ya know...

Sooo, no worries Bob, there is nothing else investigated nor watched ok...And you are doing nothing wrong....your taking RX's from a prescribed doctor for chronic pain...ok..;)

I just wanted you to know this and any others, so really watch your records, and be safe...We cannot allow doctors saving their butts for their dirty work either, and ruining us patients who suffer chronic pain and need true help, and boi, I will be heard by the time this is over with...

Your ok Bob...Im so happy your still talking with me and us, you add character and hope as well on these posts...have a great Sunday my friend..;)

Vktoria

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Hi Vktoria, you have to tell me about this arrest issue! I'm just concerned of putting my email if u know what I mean.

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To John P.:
Glad you got the info you were seeking! That's what I truly hope for when taking the time to post here... You have renewed my faith that people could actually benefit from this site! I think your attitude toward pain management is awesome! You said you wanted to live a quasi-pain free life , which shows how realistic you are toward pain management...good attitude! :-)
I wish you luck, no matter which path you take!

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I am also Taking Opana 20mg twice a day for chronic back pain, and sciatic nerve damage. I also take Norco ( Vicodin) 10/325 three times a day along with a muscle relaxer called Norflex ER. The Opana works very well for my longterm pain and the Norco works great for my breakthrough pain.

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Thank you Brien. I have been on oxycontin for over a decade when my insurance company decided to change my formulary and took Oxy off it. In order to get an exception my MD & I have to jump through hoops & try one of the meds off a list they sent me. Opana is one of them. I have been reading the blogs trying to separate the dope fiends from people living with pain as well as following the debate between brand vs generic. I'm not looking to get high otherwise I'd stay on the Morphine I'm on now (sick of spilling my coffee every time I nod off). I just want to live a quasi-pain free life. I think you did more to answer my questions than half the posts since 2012. Thank you again and good luck!
John

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Brien...AWESOME news on wanting to lower your dose, and maybe get off them when you can, Im so happy for you...The side effects are intolerable arent they..When we are on them so long we tend to believe that some of those effects are from our pain, but its the body reacting to so much medicine, I noticed it as well when I was on the meds after so long, realized the damn pills were causing me MORE pain and discomfort than I needed..than anyone needs on top of chronic pain thats for sure...The nausea, constipation alone will make you sick sick, and from coming down from the initial high of the pills, high as in good pain relief for a quick time, is nasty, and I will never go back to it..dealing with what pain I have now which is minimal, I will take it with stride and rest when I can..;)

Remember me saying about being arrested for the RX issue, well Im not sure Brien if I told you but I found out it was just for ONE inncedent of a rx saying I was taking and I truly do not remember it. So listen to this, I went to my pain doctor today, he asked about what was going on, and remembered me telling him about it, and told me that he cannot say the other patients name, but he has 3 patients in my same office that have had the SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM FROM THE SAME DOCTOR, and he is now being investigated by the DEA because of the other people fighting them as well for him just saying that certain patients were taking other medicines while in his care, to make himself look good, saying he dismissed us...Gave random names and my name came up cus I was a chronic patient taking narcotics as the other patients who were humilited like I was by being arrested...He told me to FIGHT THE CASE ALL THE WAY, that I should win it now cuz the DEA is aware of what he did..CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT BRIEN.? Dirty bastard, ruining 4 peoples lives that we know of to be an a** hole and make him look like hes doing a good job cuz he was listed as a new pain clinic...

I KNEW i didnt do that s***, but have problems remembering because of the head injury, i have some memory issues sometimes...So this girl is fighting it, and standing up for us that need pain meds and are looked down upon because we truly suffer chronic pain and need relief...the more I investigate on him now, the more I find out dirty crap about him..(smh).. Sooo, I will let you know my friend what happens, the next court case is in May, I asked for a continuence so I could get my information together, and I have a good start now...;))))

Again, I am very very proud of you, your an amazing man and many others who deal with chronic pain are as well...We can fight this together, and I am going to stand up for us, This girl is not going to be silent, no more about the crap we really have to go through..

Have a great day Brien..;))

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To Vktoria:
I would love to get off of all these pain meds! With my pain level lower now, I plan on getting the doc to either lower my dose, or just change the strength, so I can take less over time. The side effects have become intolerable!

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Hello Bob, hows your weekend going my friend? Im sorry to hear the medicines arent working, but unfortunately, they are working just how I remember them working, in an hourly fashion until the next pill is taken for pain relief..Im sorry this is your case, it normally is for Chronic Pain like many suffer.

Here is the link to MY Medtronic device I have put in, I swear by this new technology and device and it has given me a new life Bob and everyone..It is a minor surgery and I now live almost a pain free life, I am the happiest I have ever been, wake up feeling great mentally and physically, and can do more now than ever before..In fact, my doctors have used me for many examples at their office and now I talk to other patients about the device if they have questions about putting it in. I do not compare my healing to theirs but give them a great outlook knowing their healing will be much better than just pills.. Bob, please go to this web site I am going to provide to you..You can see the actuall device and read up on it on its abilities and possible side affects..Now remember, they HAVE to put in possible side affects but I swear by this machine, and suggest everyone try it. Im not sure if you have insurance, maybe even if you dont, it may be worth your life being sooo much better to just make payments you can if you can? There are options, so look into it..My friend Brien just got his stimulator fixed and feels so much better already as well...I hope you enjoy the information, just follow my links and you will see it ok..have a BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND BOB, BRIEN, AND EVERYONE ELSE..;)

Go To.....

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Read about the SYNCHROMED TWO DRUG PUMP

Let me know what you think ok..enjoy your weekend my friends..;)))))

Thanks for writing Bob, nice to hear from you.....

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Well howsVktoria doing? Hope things are well. I'm thinking about that pump and gonna ask my Dr. next appt. On three kinds of narcotics and something else has to be better. Even with them if I'm bent overvunder the hood of a car 5 minutes is all I can take without having to get out of there!

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Alisha would you kindly explained how to use the opana ER rev tally thank you

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Reply to Brien..;)

I am soo happy for you Brien, what a nice post and so happy to hear it working better for you now..How awesome to hear this, maybe one day you MAY be able to eliminate the pills, but for now I am happy to read you saying..AHHHH...LOL

IM HAPPY TO HEAR THE GENERIC opana is working better for people, and the cost is much lower for you all, its nice to hear that others are actually getting relief and they dont have to sell their damn homes in order to get relief, lol..

Im hoping that it isnt abused like the old opanas though, and if they are please everyone, dont snort, inject, or put it in p,aces it doesnt belong other than your mouth, its just an extremely addictive path no one wants to take, if its not strong enough, ask or talk about a different strength??

Ok, enough of that...Again, Brien I am very happy for you and others on their pain relief..Brien you have changed for the better so much, I cant stop smiling when I read your posts..;) GOOD JOB..;)

Have a great weekend everyone...

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Hello Vktoria and all others...
I finally had my control unit of the spinal cord stimulator replaced! Ahhh... so nice to have it working again! I can now lay off the PRN oxycodone...
My pharmacy finally got the generic Opana (oxymorphone) ER in stock, they are much cheaper and definitely work better than the brand ones! I think they are even better than before they changed the Opana formulation...but it could be just a faulty memory...anyway, I feel much better, and that's what counts! I feel like I have been given a new lease on life! Well, take care and god bless!....I am going to start using my name, instead of Chronic Pain Patient.... Brien

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If you are wanting relief.. Tell your doctor you want to take smaller doses more times a day. They make generic opanas by activis. There is a half moon on one side and 262 on the other side for 15s (white) and 261 on the other side for 7.5(gray). They are much much stronger than the old opanas. Much stronger. They can be snorted as well.. Very easily break or crush.. But there is no need to do that really. Being prescribed 3 40mg a day means being prescribed 8 15mg a day.. So you are taking 15mg every three hours for relief that works. Or you can take 2 every 6.. Or ask for 7.5s .. Either way.. These are the generic brand of opana.. So most every pharmacy carries them and they Re much cheaper than opana er brand by endo and they are 10x better than the new ones and 5x better than the old formula.

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TO EVERYONE.....

I WANTED TO WISH EVERYONE A GREAT WEEKEND...KEEP YOUR SPIRITS UP AND LAUGH AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, IT TRULY IS HEALING AND FEELS GREAT...;))))

Vktoria..

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TO BOB...;)

Hi there and Good Friday to you friend..There really is no comparison to injuries we all have because when we hurt, we hurt..It doesnt have to be a tramatic event like mine in order to be in chronic pain, and I know that too..

As for the discussion about the pain pump, your physician may forget about discussing it, but atleast you havent..Doctors can overload themselves as well, but when and if you are ready, you should atleast look into it and read about it..It truly is an amazing device and works so well...I know everyone reacts to treatments differently. My friend on here "Chronic Pain Patient" has a stimulator which is a bit different than the pain pump, but when they fix his...it should help him more as well...

I am glad you wrote back and keeping in touch..I hope your pain stays in limited, you stay happy and keep in touch with me if you wish to..?? Have yourself a great weekend Bob...;)

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Hi Viktoria, sorry been awhile. Actually at Pharmacey getting pain scripts filled. Sounds like you had a terrible accident todeal with. More than most could handle. Glad you pulled through and finally found something that works for you. That procedure has been discussed for me but every visit to clinic he forgets what he talkedabout last visit. Today I'm waiting for oxy, opana er and opana it. Quite the mixture. I swear generic ir works better than the opana er! One day he'll get it right I hope. Certainley I didn't go through what you did. My problems are neck, lower back now elbows for lunar nervi issues. Hope things go well for you. Talk soon,
Bob

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TO BOB..;)

Hi there, I was wondering if you were gonna come back here on the posts? im glad you did..

Ok, well lets see...I was in a nasty car accident when I was 16 years old..I was the driver but a man ran a stop sign on his way to pick up his wife who worked at the hospital. They predicted his MPH at around 60-70 and mine was 55-60.. I do not remember the accident that much, but I had 4 other girls with me, we were on our way home from school..My passenger was killed instantly, she was drinking a Mountain Dew bottle at the time of the accident, and well, that should tell you the rest about my dear friends incident. The other three including myself were all in pretty bad shape after the incident. All of our bones in our faces were smashed and had to be put together with wires and screws..Drinking out of a straw for 8 weeks wasnt fun thats for sure..My other friends ended up coming out ok and alive as I did. I suffered facial injuries of course, a bad head injury, exploded right knee, and my back was broken in two places, cervical and lower lumbar..

So i still do this day suffer severe migraines from the head injury, knee and hip aches, and my bad was generating in the places it was broken, "pretty painful".. i have been to a doctor on a regular basis since the accident which has been a LONG TIME NOW..I have experienced Cortizone injections, tense units, physical therapy, massage therapy, surgeries, and the worst yet...ORAL PAIN MEDICINES, since 1990.. thats a long time trying to find pain relief, but I managed and just couldnt find a doctor that had any resolution to my chronic pain other than oral medicines, and as we all know the longer we are on them we need stronger and stronger as time goes by and more of it..Not because we WANT TO, but its medically necessary for it, our bodies become tolerant..Why else would they make stronger and stronger medicines??

The sad thing is, I am not bad mouthing all doctors, but its a viscious cycle my friends..The docs put us on medicines, they gain money for monthly visits and procedures, the Pharmecutical companies benefit from that of course, and we as the patients, are stuck with an addiction..Either a mental addiction or physical, sometimes it ends up both..

Then they take the next patient...We are looking to doctors for relief, but are faced with addiction, humiliation, personality changes, family changes, and so on...Now we are "Perceived" as addicts because we need the medicines, for pain relief...I can bet there are very few people out there that WISHED to become addicted to medicines, but I feel it is a get rich scandal for many practioners, pharmaceutical companies, and for our judicial systems as well...Lets face it, this procedure has made a LOT of companies, enforcements, and Doctors wealthy..Its a viscious cycle, and we are the only ones that can help one another fight it, we cant look to anyone else to help us along..

There is so much I would like to discuss, but I dont want you or anyone else to become drowsy and bored of the long paragraphs..But I was there...My body was addicted to medicines, and I truly feared my future with withdrawls and no true help out there..I feel the systems set many up for failure, so I decided to come forth and try my damndest to help, even if it was only through conversations and being there for someone who wished to talk and let it out, its what I needed and I dont want anyone to be alone through it..Im not a miracle worker nor do I think I am, but If I can try, then I feel better about what I went through to get to where I am today, and I want others to feel this good to..

So...I searched and searched for a good pain doctor, and found one, which I am lucky...I was introduced to the "Medtronic spinal pain pump".. i had it surgically put in on June of 2012 and experimented a bbit on the medicine they put it in and finally ended up with Morphine in the pump for my constant control of pain, and it is a miracle machine for me..It is very small in diameter, maybe 2x2 and lies in my abdominal cavity. A catherter connects to it and goes around to my back and the catheter is at about my mid to upper thoracic. This is wonderful and allowed me to get off of pain medicines now all together as of December of 2012.. it is such a small dose into my spinal area that there is a LOW % of medicine that may travel throuout my body, it is put right where the pain is..I have no side affects fromit, i.e. nausea, constipation, withdrawls, nothing...I was able to quit oral medicines very quickly because with the pain pump, you go through absolutely NO WITHDRAWLS from not taking oral medicine instantly..

I now feel absolutely great, very low pain some days absolutely none..No RX's to worry about filling to early or running out because the pain was to bad...everyones pain levels are different, but If it helps atleast 50% of others pain, how great is that huh?

I hope you continue to be on here Bob, and others..W can help one another out, its all we have...;)))

Vktoria...;)

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Hi Vktoria, very kind words, thank you. You are a very interesting and a woman who puts a person to thinking. Never did get to ask you what kind of treatment you were getting. Would like to hear more about you in a respectful way.

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To; Chronic Pain, but awesome patient..;)

A move may be just the new start you need and a start for your future..Its going to be exciting to move, have a home built on land, I envy that and one day wish to build a little home on the Island facing the beautiful ocean...

Your going to love being by family and meet new friend, meet all new people..Dont feel bad about not being able to do everything on your own, everyone in this world needs help doing something...Im 39 and my husband is 42 and we have our yard work done, its just to much for us to do with everything else we have going on, and why push ourselves to our limits, its silly isnt it? ;))

I am very happy for you..Maybe you will meet the love of your life in Texas and have some little "Mini you's" hanging around...lol

Keep in touch my dear friend, again I am so happy for you, your doing much better and just remember when there are some bad days just remember how strong of a man you are...Your awesome, kind, and a good friend to me as well...You make a complete stranger smile, how kick ass is that? ;) I love ya my friend, and keep up the great work and positive moves forward...Im giving you an Internet hug right now...()..

Have a wonderful weekend...until we read again..lol

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To Vktoria: I just need the control box of the spinal cord stimulator replaced... the wires and leads can be reused, so I won't need but one incision this time! I'm divorced, and we never had children, so it's just me! Kinda hard at times, as I'm limited in the amount of work and chores I can do around the house. I have family that help me periodically, but they live 2hrs away... I plan on selling my house and moving to where they live. My brother has a ranch east of Austin, Texas where my parents live also. I will stay with them until I have a manufactured house built on the property. Then my nephews and nieces can help me out, and take care of me when I'm old!!! :-D

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