How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 12)
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I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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BOB, thank you..;) I am originally from Mich-igan..;) but it feels so long ago since I have lived there, I love to be a Floridian, the cold weather just is horrible for me now..lol Love the tropical weather and ocean..;)

BRIEN.. the "new formulated Opana" I have to say, did not work for me either. I only stayed on it long enough to control the pain until the pump was put it..Im so glad a generic is out there for relief and cheaper..;)

I have to go to Ft. lauderdale today, everyone enjoy your day and weekend ahead of you...Keep up the awesome work everyone..;)

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Brian must be my body chemistry but generic Opana blew the "Opana" away.

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I'll defend you lol. You all must be from Ohio down to Florida!.

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TO NIKKI...AND EVERYONE ELSE...

I want to apologize for mixing you all up on my arrest i formation...In the beginning when I was arrested, I posted that I was arrested because of pharmacy hopping, that was the only thing I was running on, besides being told That this was probably it by my Bondsman. She had said then that their were just recent arrests made because of pharmacy hopping, so this is the only cause I could think of for my arrest.

I had went to court though in February and found out it was because I had " Obtained or attempted to obtain narcotic fraudulently" I was still confused because I had not done this..Well my recent doctor visit to my NOW PAIN DOCTOR just told me that my OLD pain doctor was being under investigation by the DEA for fraudulently signing medical papers saying that "some" patients including myself, had been taking other narcotics while in his care... THIS WAS NOT TRUE, but because he said that about me, and 4 other patients, we all were arrested..that is why I was arrested because a doctor said I was taking other meds while in his care...And they saw that ONE time last YEAR..I had overlapped a RX by ONE WEEK..so that was their probable cause...Now, needless to say, this RX that was overlapped, was MY NEUROLOGIST i have had for over 6 years for my pain mostly about my MIGRAINES, but other things in small...Had written me this RX until I had found me a new Pain doctor, now I was already dismissed from this "bad doctor" when I had the RX filled. granted it was a week early I THINK, i have to check that out, but I was trying to find a new doctor which is very hard, and NOT BE IN PAIN, NOR GO THROUGH WITHDRAWALS,..Anyone who has taken pain meds as long as I did, knew I would have gone through major pain and withdrawals...

So, long story shorter, I now have to prove this all to the court, just a HUGE PAIN IN THE ASS, and i will fight it...

I am glad the DEA is out doing their jobs, for us people who really suffer for it, but I am also PISSED because they obviously didn't do to good of a job if they just allowed this arrest to JUST happen so easily, and many others...

So I apologize for the misunderstanding, but please do be careful, they are out for blood right now, but from the wrong people it seems???

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HI BRIEN..

HI KENNETH...I would suggest if you have been on the Opana for a year now and it isnt working near as well for you anymore,bthen yes do tell your doctor AT YOUR NEXT VISIT, I saw this because as odd, and untruthful in many cases, It can be a flag to a doctor that you may be "seeking" or wanting stronger meds for a different reason...Im NOT implying this onto you what so ever, just telling you from someone who just seems to get these "Oras" from certain places in the past..

Anyways Kenneth, at your next appointment express to your doctor that you don't feel the medicine you are on is doing as well as it did in the beginning, as you say..Don't even say the word OPANA to him, just say medicine..another silly but true fact...trust me..

Ask him if there any other options that you can discuss with him to help control your pain better, maybe he can either give you something different, stronger, or even options that may even succeed your options that you may not have even known of? ;) Always talk with your doctor, thats what a good physician is there for Kenneth..Someone who really went through that hard schooling to help someone...Don't ever be nervous to talk to your doctor, if you ever feel that way, then maybe its time to start looking for another possible physician..Don't ever sell yourself short, you deserve just as much happiness and pain free life as anyone else does ok..;) We pay the doctors, so we should get just as much respect and care, as we give them us our hard earned money we earn to pay them..;)

Im glad you haven't gone down an abusive path, but if for some reason you have had thoughts of it, done it, or not, were happy to have you here..;) thanks for joining us..;)

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I. Have been taking opana 180mv per day for my back i dont abuse it in any way but after a year now it just doesnt work as well and dont know how to talk to my dr bout it it says on the page ingredient that your body gets usrd to it. A nd ito talk to dr if this accures


and it doesn't work as well and to talk to dr im 55 yeRs. Old

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To John P:
No there is not a huge difference between the generic and brand as far as pain relief goes. I am sure now that they do work better, but only a bit! They are however, much cheaper!
Hi Vktoria!

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I found it. is this a different case or this is all the same case? Now I am confused. Sounds like everyone needs to be careful what they do no matter what. Be careful on what doctor you go too and stay at the same pharmacy and ask them to keep your medicine in stock so we don't have to go thru what Vktoria has. Life is hard enough just normal life then add being a CPP on top of it and have to worry about all the problems that go along with it.

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Wednesday, 12/12/2012 1:44:36 PM

Lemme tell you something, to all of you...I was arrested months and months ago with my family home, while I was cooking dinner, caught off guard and had to go to jail, and why?? Because I had had my RX filled at different pharmacy's and the only reason for this was because my original pharmacy did not have my RX in stock..Even though I used the same pharmacy name but at different locations, they saught me as drug seeker, TALK ABOUT HUMILIATING AND REDICULOUS..I never searched for different doctors, had only one doctor but because I had them filled at different locations because they were not in stock at one pkace and even though it was by the same doctor, I was labeled a SEEKER...Talk about a blow to anyones look on trying to be as pain free as we can?? they dont care out there and trust me, from what I learned in jail while I was waiting to be bonded out, They are WATCHING EVERYONE who has pain meds filled every month...

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HELLO NICKY....;)

Yes, I am that person Nicky. I posted that earlier because I thought that was the reason, I had no idea as to why I was arrested, I was only taking a guess as to what the reason was until I went to court and saw my public defender, and even when I saw my public defender, she only had ONE reason as to why they arrested me dear..The reason was from my PD was because they saw a RX filled at a time I was supposedly seeing my last pain doctor..I knew that I had not seen my past pain doctor when I went to my NEW clinic because I had never crossed doctors, but I have a memory problem sometimes from my head injury so I really didn't have the proof in front of me at that time, I couldn't HONESTLY say that I didn't see the doctor I had previously on the date they gave me, Im truly bad at dates and numbers with my memory, but I knew deep down that I wouldn't cross doctors, thats a HUGE chance and honestly I had no reason to do that...

Soo, when I went to my doctor I have now at a recent appointment, my doctor told me of the pain doctor I had before and that he is under investigation for signing off on patients saying they were taking other meds while in his care to make himself look good for the DEA, and I remember him saying to me two times that I had drugs in my system while in his care, and my husband was with me and I KNEW and told him, there was NO WAY THATS ACCURATE, I had never gotten any drugs in his care nor seen another doctor for RX's in his care.. Long story short, he had dismissed me for this reason and thats why I was in search of another pain management and I was not happy with his care and bed side manner anyways, but he was and is a lier...

Sooo, he is under investigation now for 4 arrests that have been made for the same issue as mine for falsifying medical information of patients, and the DEA knows this now..So yes, I am pissed about the whole issue and will fight for us as true pain patients...Be careful though if you do use other pharmacies because it is a red flag in their computers..I dont mean to scare anyone, but the DEA has devices in their (major pharmacies) systems to flag patients who are constant Narcotic users, uses different pharmacies, and they are checking date refills VERY CLOSELY now for all states...If its a week early, it is flagged, even if you dont fill it, the pharmacy puts in the computer as LAW that the RX is trying to be filled, then the DEA will begin following after a few times of this activity, I am just letting everyone know this, were not bad people but they are flagging us as is...BULLS***...

SO, my court date is in May, I will keep everyone updated, but please Narcotic users be careful on refills, their cracking down big time and you wont even know their following us, for no reason for most of us..;(

I will also be doing some research for me and all of you, so stay tuned to everything I find ok...Take care dear and thank you for your concern...If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask ok..;)

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Dear Vktoria, Maybe I am getting your story mixed up with someone elses. I thought you were arrested at home at dinner time for getting your script filled at a different pharmacy instead of the one you always used and the reason you did that was because they didn't have the medicine that your script was for. If it wasn't you, I do apologize. I remember the story because I couldn't understand why they would arrest anyone just because they went to a different store because their store didn't have what their script was for. Pain medicine has been scariest for months and months. Everyone has had a hard time finding their pain medicine. It is crazy that chronic pain patients have to go through so much to have the medicine that helps their pain to get through their daily life. I understand rules and laws but sometimes the wrong people have to pay for other peoples mistakes. Any way, this person, the police should have checked there story out and if it was true, the charges should be dropped as well as your should be.

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TO...SAYLACRACKD...

Hello and welcome to the board...Your very right and many have put me down for my posts, but I don't take it personally, they may just be in that state still where they didn't want to hear good about not abusing the drugs. I was in a situation similar to those at one time and thought, "those have no idea what I am going through, and If I wish to numb myself, then so be it" but I know it isn't always the person talking, its the drugs and addiction..I know its so tuff to break away, try to find the strength to look ahead and stop..To find other alternatives, but I realized If I keep posting, and dont give up on them either like many have for all of us, then I may be able to help just even a few understand and know their not alone out there, and there are people who care, even if their not MD's, rehab clinics that just take them in daily and let them out after 60 or 90 days and get paid..

Im so very happy you came here, and I hope you keep posting with us..Explain yourself with honesty because non of us will judge you..We are now here to all talk about our thoughts and how we feel, with NO discrimination...If you do get it from anyone, PASS THAT BY, cause your strong enough to do it, I know this because you made your post...thats a big step forward...

Welcome...you will find some great people on here that will be honest, and helpful, and most of all....caring..

Vktoria...;)

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HELLO JOHN, how are you doing dear?? Its been awhile since you posted, is all going ok for you? Im happy you have found this board to read and express your thoughts...I enjoy your visits as well and hope that you continue with us...You have added great character and I am very happy you have been with us..;)

Keep up the good attitude, keep positive thoughts about the great man that I am sure you are, and stick with us..;)

Hello gain John, and have yourself a great Wednesday ok..;)

Vktoria

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BOB, hello my dear friend, you have such kind words...You have helped so much on these boards as well, and I have read such a big difference in you since your first post, Im so happy for you my friend...Your doing great and sound healthier already...

We can do this together, all of us...we all need someone, and even if were afar, on a virtual screen together, were here to discuss our feelings and problems or even how we are doing now...Im so happy that we are doing this, we all are a great help...FEel good about how you have impacted others just reading your posts my friend..KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK, im just so fricken proud of all of you...Im just a normal everyday gal, but I see good, hard working, honest individuals like myself that just need a place to feel normal...well, as normal as we all can be...;) lol

Hugs to you all, i wish I could hug you all, so here is my virtual one...lol () ;)

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TO MUCHIE AND BOB...;))))

First I want to welcome Muckie to the board, hello and We are happy to have you visit us. You will find a great amount of good people on here that will help you, explain situations, and give caring advice..Bob, Brien, and many others including myself have went through what you have explained and are doing so much better now...It use to be a board explaining how to abuse narcotics and no help at all...Now some of us have gathered together to better ourselves, our lives, and help each other out through some tuff times Muckie..God knows there isnt any help out there that will not label us as abusers and truly listen to what we have gone and possibly going through..Here you will get that with nothing but honesty and NO judgement what so ever....We have helped one another become better at our goals and our lives...

Bob is right, asking for refills early just categorizes a patient as an abuser, not as someone who is inchronic pain and needs help dealing with the pain in the correct manner..Its so much easier for some people to say, "If they cannot take their RX as prescribed, then their abusing it intentionally" thats not always the case, and we one here understand that...In many cases it is because we just want the pain to go away, no matter if we think only at that moment, and realize were gonna be short or hurting more later because the pills are gone..

Work with us on here...Bob, Brien, and I am sure many others besides myself care, and we all truly want the same thing, a normal life without judgement....without the severe pain on a daily basis, and most importantly, someone who understands and is there for us to talk to...WELL YOUR IN THE CORRECT BOARD OUR FRIEND..;)))

So welcome....

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ya I understand what you're talking about. For a while I found nothing but people sharing on how to break down a pill to snort it, bang it and (I'm not kidding) how to shove it up one's ass. There had to be someone with some knowledge and experience. But I digress. I'm now on Opana 20 mg twice daily and I have found to be almost useless. They are brand name and "reformulated" which I don't give a damn about as I'm not looking to snort them. Is there really that big a difference between the generic and brand?

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Still get chills reading your accident post! Then get so many scamming PMD's. Sucks.

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Muckie, Vktoria offers a wealth of info so hopefully she'll be back on the board soon.

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Don't look for early refills especially if new to the program. Make it last and eventually ask for an increase maybe about in six months. Consider yourself luckey to be in pm. Opana will be and is becoming available inn the old formula so to speak. My last script was filled with generic opana. Oxymorphone is what I got which is the active ingredient. Build trust with your Dr. or your gonna blow it. If you are young your already under a microscope if asking early. Better to get extras on the street. Good luck
Bob

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I take Opana ER and am not familiar.with the "old" formula that yall are talkin about? Anyways Opana was added onto my plan when Dilautid wasn't working for my pain by itself anymore. Im not reÃlly sure if Opana is doing anything for me but when I take more Dilautid then prescribed, it works! Only problem with that is my Dr. Won't give me early refills then I go through withdrawls when I run out.

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It may not be what everyone wants to hear, but if you had been thru such misery - totally accidentally - you might feel urged to share your experience too. I also crushed Opanas until the formula was changed & it took over my life. If it hadnt been impossible to crush those little f***ers I dont know how i wouldve ever stopped, short of rehab. Kaiser doesnt even prescribe oxy's. If a couple posts on here make one person think twice before going down that dangerous road, its worth being disliked by the rest of you.

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