Generic Buprenorphine 54 411 Vs M 924 (Page 11)
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I've been going to a clinic for almost a year now and each time I get prescribed 8mg Subutex. When I would fill my prescription I would receive 54 411 white tablets. Today when I picked it up I got M 924 white tablets. The only difference I've found is the manufacturer. The manufacturer for the 54 411 is ROXANE and for the M 924 is MYLAN. Are they pretty much the same pill just different imprint/manufacturer?

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Personally, buprenorphine in my book is the worst drug that ever hit the market. For a true chronic pain suffer like myself we have been subjected to this drug that does nothing for moderate to severe pain. I have put up with this disgusting thing for 2 years. Finally I told my doctor at my last appointment this is ridiculous the side effects far outweigh the 15 to 20% pain relief it offers. He said well I will give you to 10 milligrams of percocet a day and that's it. I told him that was incredibly ridiculous and at the lowest level I've ever been on in over 15 years. He said, too late already wrote the prescription take it feel it or don't. He's a crappy doctor who has over 4,000 patients and does nothing but write scripts for buprenorphine while collecting offer insurance companies. On the other hand if you do suffer from opiate addiction through other misuse and abuse or Simply the fact that you took it for a surgery and continued to want it other than needed after you are healed, then this is the drug for you. Because you do not actually require pain relief, you require a relief from opiate addiction. I on the other hand Have never drank, do not smoke, do not have any Addictions nor does any single member of my family or my extended family. But due to the massive epidemic of opiate use and the abuse of prescription pain pills significantly higher since 2004, people like myself Are literally dying because of the lack of pain relief we receive. Two of my friends in my group has already killed themselves over it. So why everybody is slapping each other on the back and they're all smiles and they're thanking God that there are over there opiate addictions, I want you to consider this. Individuals with chronic pain are no longer being treated. It is now assumed that everyone that walks through a door with or without documentation Is simply turned down. Just to let you know, I have loved scoliosis 6 vertebrae that her twisted 5 herniated discs, fibromyalgia and a top it all off the cherry on the cake of my day I have also had crohns for over 15 years. Now imagine me getting a whole 20 milligrams of freaking percocet a day to handle that pain. Congratulations you are sober, congratulations I'm in my garage screaming at 4 in the morning so I don't wake my husband up. Oh and did I mention I live in Salt Lake City Utah, so not only do we have our doctors assuming every single person is a drug addict, but we also had a religious background Interfering By bias and opinion and judgment instead of practicing medicine. Somebody told me to try kratom. That would be the equivalent of telling me to try bath salts. Incredibly dangerous Incredibly wrong and soon to be incredibly illegal. So why I do feel for people with drug addiction, Where are the headlines that are talking about the rest of us with real chronic pain that will never go away. We can have surgery after surgery after surgery, but a lot of these things are not surgically repaired they are just a life sentence. Does anybody know a real pain management specialist in Salt Lake City Utah area? & I am NOT talking about some doctor who took a 3 day course to get his what is it 2008 a certificate so he can prescribe buprenorphine. Like I said it does not cover moderate to severe pain. Talk to somebody with real chronic pain and they will tell you we don't feel high off of drugs and we don't abuse them because we need them. They save our lives. They enable us to do something as little as folding a load of clothes Or Make dinner. Something as easy as changing the sheets on the bed. We are isolated because we cannot get out as much as others And we are isolated because we must decline social events due to our pain. Now we are isolated in a world that will no longer treat that pain. Obviously the pharmaceutical companies are busy making such a dime On buprenorphine and heart medication high blood pressure medication and diabetic medication because nobody Is prescribing an opiate anymore. No I'm not going to think positive and I'm not going to meditate and I'm not going to do yoga Because paying takes up three quarters of my brain space. Change my diet I have the most holistic diet on the planet! So anybody know a real doctor in Salt Lake City that is actually still practicing the science of medicine or have they all crawled into a hole and decided to just do it the easy way.

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Meghann- What were some of the things you didnt like about the M-924 . I feel like they arent working like the Roxanne Brand but everyone said its in my head?? Someone please let me know If there is really much of a difference. Kmart charges 144 for my Mylans script and Walmart charges 274 for my script with the Roxannes. Crazy difference huh!

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I still get the 54 411 to this day

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I just got switched to the Mylan Brand as well which one did you decide that you liked better?? I do like the Mylan is cheaper and pill seems to be harder than the Roxanne Brand which is nice if you are breaking pieces off

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Does anyone know if the manufacturer Roxane labs discontinued buprenorphine 54 411?!? My pharmacy said they only carry the Mylan's brand now, which in comparison are horrible!! If they are discontinued, does anyone know why? Or has had personal experience to other manufacturers of buprenorphine that you thought were better?

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How do I get off these things (Suboxone-Subutex)???

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The oval ones and the 54-411 are the best all the other ones suck.

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John Boy, I agree with you.

I also feel that there is something toxic about the Mylan generic subutex, to a point that almost seems to cancel out many of the benefits derived from taking this pill. I mean, okay, I'm no longer gobbling down Norco, but now I have trouble even getting up in the morning. True, I'm not ingesting potentially harmful amounts of aceteminophine any longer, but my stomach now feels worse for the wear from taking these Mylan.

I NEVER intend to resume my use of those opiate *agonist* pain meds and, frankly, I do not miss them one bit.

I DO wish the subutex that was first marketed -- the name brand, that is - was still available or, at the very least, a close approximation were released to the public. But, alas, just as you, John Boy, so astutely pointed out, it's all about the money. These pharm. companies do not care what type of toxic ingredients they use to pump up their products. They care about inflating only one thing: the cost.

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Is that 100% for sure that the m924 has more buprenorphin than the 54 411. Ive been taking the 54 411 for couple or few years and have 2 of the m924 cause I ran short this month but am hoping they will do the job for the next 2 days until I go back to doctor

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Agree with Mike. The only generic subutex that sucks is the small one that is made by HiTech/Akorn/Midlothian. I saw no difference between the M924s or 54 411s or Teva B 799 or even back in the day when name brand (B 8)was all you could get.

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The 924s have more buprenorpin in them,maybe a half mg or so

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Yes there the same, but the newer one mylan 924 i believe has more toxic fillers in it.Its a billion dollar industry all about the money and how to manufacture it cheaper by the new company competitors coming out..

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Get off what ? Subs ? Not smart unles u wanna relapse and go back to drugs. Wow they changed it who cares, switch next month.. They all work fine its just u use to one then won't like any other until 2 weeks later. White ones are best, bub no naloxone to give migrains. Tell the doc which u like n force him to write what u want. The small high tech brand ones suck rest r OK.

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The akorn ones are terrible. They dont look like the roxane and mylans. It took me a week to notice they gave me M 924s so I dont think they are that much different than the Roxane 54 411s

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I was on the actual suboxone for years. The orange tablets. I had surgery last year and the doctor changed my prescription to the Roxane brand. I did not like them as well as the suboxone but then one month the pharmacy gave me the same but instead of roxane the company was Akron. I, too, liked the roxane better. They finally switched me back to suboxone and life was good. Like you, I have never gone back to drugs. Last week my mother fell, broke her hip, surgery and now rehab. I ran out of my suboxone and finally found a doctor to prescribe for me. I specifically told him I needed suboxone, but when I went to fill I turns out it is the same damn white pills, this time the company is not even on the bottle. These don't work as well. It's Saturday so I now have to wait until Monday. I am so over this. When I get home I need to get off this. I am so over it.

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Still don't like new ones or ?????

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Makes me really weak and tired and I have to do more and don't really do it for me at all. The Roxana 54-411 are the ones I get every month for almost 2 years now and everything in my life has been great. Haven't touched a opiate since. But these m 924s suck

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The inactive ingredients aren't required to be the same, so you could be reacting to one of them.

Are you allergic to anything that you know of? Having unusual side effects, or does it just seem not to work?

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Do you know if it has the excact same stuff in the M 925 has the 54 411!! I don't like the M 925s at all. Doesn't seem to do the same has the 54 411

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Yes, these tablets are just manufactured by different companies, which so very common with generics.

The FDA classifies this medication as an opiate that is most commonly used to treat drug addiction. It has the potential to be habit forming and may cause side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, dry mouth and constipation.

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