Easiest Way To Remove New Oxycontin 80 Op Coating (Page 8)

Hey! In all the other threads about the new oxy's -- everyone is stressing the new coatings, it seems. I have found the easiest and most efficient way to get BOTH coatings off is {edited for safety reasons}. Thought y'all would like to know that.

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Nug Nug - RUN not walk to the nearest rehab. Girlfriend, you can't even write that makes sense. I am NOT judging you. But you REALLY, REALLY need some serious HELP. Please go or you won't be with us long. Just from someone that cares!

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After being on the old Oxy formulation for many years and then changing to the new OPs this year, I have finally sat down here at my computer to try and problem-solve this horrible situation I find myself in. I have read all the postings on this site--and many others--and felt this was a good place to begin.
In my previous proffession I often treated patients with chronic pain conditions and suspected they were probably gaining something from having their pain, and, that if properly motivated and honest they really could have less pain...or at least that they were kind of exaggerating, or feeling sorry for themselves, or maybe depressed or something. And I thot these things because this is actually what I learned in my post-grad education. Call it fate or karma, but I ended up being one of those chronic pain patients, and now see how it trully does dominate nearly every fiber of your being and every moment of your life. I must say tho, that even tho I held some ignorant judgements toward my chronic pain patients, I was SO careful to not let my feelings/doubts color how I treated them; I mustered every bit of compassion possible and showed them complete respect. I trully cared about their suffering and believed I could help them. But, having been on the other side of the fence, I do realize how so many clinicians, doctors, etc., really don't have even an inkling of what a chronic pain persons life is really like--even the caring and compassionate ones like I was--despite their years of education and training. Because there is really no way to trully understand constant, unrelenting pain without experiencing it.
From a serious auto accident many years ago, I have significant head and back/neck injuries/conditions that cause me daily pain and suffering. I did spend nearly 7 years trying to combat the pain every other way I could to avoid taking pain medicine daily, but ended up spending those last 2 years in a bedroom with blankets over the windows, unable to hardly eat, get up, or communicate with anyone...and this is no way to live.Out of desparation I finally began the OCs and was given back my life; It was not the same life of 2+ jobs and an active social life, but it was a definite improvement.
Then, this year my medicine changed to the OPs and suddenly I was hit with many of the same symptoms others mentioned: withdrawels, increased pain, inconsistent pain relief, gastrointestinal pain and upset, heart palpitations, etc. It seemed my life went backwards to nearly what it was before the pain medicine. And, unfortunately, like many other people I had already unsuccessfully tried all the other pain medicines (Fentanyl, Vicodin, Morphine, etc.) and either had horrid side effects and ineffective pain relief, or a combo of both!
I did not even notice the pills were different visually, as I have a caregiver who puts them in a pillbox for me and handles picking them up from the pharmacy, etc. So I could not understand what was wrong: I felt like I hadn't even taken my medicine at all. I immediately called my pharmacist thinking I had received a 'bad batch' or something, and was told about the OPs. The pharmacist was obviously sick of taking calls on the subject and was less than helpful. Too sick to do much, my mother did some computer research and suggested I report my experience to Purdue--which I did.
What brings me to this day is that in the last 8 months of suffering through these darn OPs I have had a serious health decline: I developed urinary problems (which I never had previously) which include constant pain and feeling like I have to urgently urinate 24-7. My entire urinary tract is in constant inflammation and spasm, from the urethra to the bladder, and up to my kidneys. I am also having gastrointestinal problems which have been keeping me too ill to move from my couch most all of this year. Without being too vivid, it is so painful to have a bowel movement that I cry most times and am so weak that I must lean on the bathroom door while I go. After ongoing visits to the specialists (plural) and many medicines and treatments my doctors are at a loss. They are telling me that my urinary tract and gastrointestinal tract are both having some type of inflammatory response that is not only causing me to be terribly ill, but is killing me. I have been on multiple antibiotics for them for over 7 months, which does control the inflammation somewhat, but now I can no longer take the antibiotics as they have caused a C. diff. infection in my bowels--which can be fatal. (It is the bacteria that causes gangrene, and it is caused from too much antibiotics). So, after being treated for the C. Diff infection I was forced to go off all antibiotics as of last week, and was faced with the return of the horrible bladder, urethra, kidney, bowel, and stomach inflammation returning.
Out of desparation and no other options I racked my brain to figure out what could have caused my whole system to go so haywire around the first of the year....oH yeh!!--what about the OPs?!
So, as a last ditch experiment I went off my OPs (I take 2-80mg tabs every 8 hours) and began taking some of the old OCs that I had stashed and saved for many years for a "rainy day". Miraculously, all of my bladder and gastro symptoms have completely dissappeared!!! I hate to be dramatic, but I have changed nothing else and it is no less than miraculous. I feel like a human being again. At my last specialist appointment my blood pressure was 79 over 42, and I honestly thought I was dying, and now I'm back to my "normal", as if I hadn't been sick the last 8 months.
But, unfortunatly my 'rainy day' stash is not going to hold out very long and I have found the Fentanyl and Opana insufficient also. So what do I do next?
While I'm feeling improved I felt I had a responsiblity to share my experience with others out there. Perhaps my horrible experience will be of some value for someone else.
Since I initially contacted Purdue I have received a letter from them acknowledging my phone call to them and assuring me that they have looked into the matter and that there is no problem with the OP formula or its new components that would cause any of the symptoms I experienced. Somehow, their assurances seem a bit empty in leiu of my own personal experiences. I will answer their newest letter and re-iterate to them my experiences, but, as some have mentioned, I'm afraid the whole issue is not one of safety or effectiveness, but rather one of dollars and cents. Some of you mentioned joining together to 'complain' to Purdue, and I am willing to participate if someone has a suggestion. Unfortunately, once my spares run out I will probably be too sick to do much.
I urge anyone who is having problems with the OPs to also contact Purdue; the posts seem divided as to whether or not this will effect any changes. And probably the strongest message we can send is to discontinue using their product. I also liked the suggestion to contact the FDA--which I will do next. Do you have a specific website for this? Or phone number?
I think I had more serious reactions to the OPs because I take more than most people, so it hit me harder and faster. But that is not to say that many of you will not have similar experiences further down the road. I imagine that soon we will be seeing TV commercial advertising class-action suits against Purdue for 'serious' problems resulting from taking the OPs. But that doesn't do much to help us solve the problem right now of safely controlling our pain, does it?
I hope my story may help someone else to perhaps make sense of symptoms they may encounter from taking the OPs, so that my suffering will be of some value. In the mean time, if anyone has any other helpful suggestions I hope to here from you. I am both saddened and somehow comforted to know that so many other people are having similar difficulties to my own; thank you for your posts and God bless you.

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Get a mind (and a hobby) and stop pushing your morals onto individuals of whose medical history you know nothing about.

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My comment was NOT for MissTT, I cannot now find the person who I was replying to in order to edit in my @soandso for my message, just to clarify, def. not for MissTT.

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WarWalker - WE DID IT! The last two months I have picked up my script and got the OC's, thought it was from an old batch. This month I picked up my script and it was the OC's again. I asked about it and was told that this is what they are getting again. The OP's
have been recalled and are NO LONGER being made!!! It took us a year of yelling and screaming about the uselessness of what they were dishing out. It caused some people taking their lives and others to seriously thinking of taking their lives (I'm glad they suffered through the storm).I raise my glass to you and all the others that have called Purdue, Doctors, pharmacy etc. But we finally got back what we know will stop the pain! To the man of many hats, I wish I could still talk with you, you have been my strength, my hope in mankind and most of all, I wasn't alone! GOD BLESS YOU, my friend. I will never forget you! Love, Paula

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Pam,

I don't know where you are getting your OC's from? But I'm still getting the awful OP's. I would like to know how you did this. I have been complaining not only to the doctor but also Purdue and FDA. No one is able to help me. I am a Kaiser Patient and they still say they have to do this to prevent the abuser from abusing this drug. Any suggestion. Please email me for I don't know how to follow the links on this site. Thank you for your good news.

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I'm with you Paramiedic-Perez. I have had chronic pain longer than I have been alive. I don't want to go there with all my surgeries. I just know that the oc's were working by far so much better than the op's. I'm at my wits end with all the side effects. I feel as if the side effects are going to kill me before I get true pain relief. The FDA wants to much information from me and I don't want them to have all my personal information for fear they will use it against me. I don't trust The Pharmacy Co. Like Purdue. everything just keeps past around. Now I'm sicker than I was before when I started pain relief management. My stomach kills me and my head hurt. Knew illness keep coming up. Bladder, Kidneys, IBS, with more flareups from my Fibro. diagnosed in the early 80's. two back surgeries.... etc.. it goes on and on. I have tried to commit suicide because of the chronic pain. To this day I don't know how I survived. Living with Chronic pain is taking me down. Doctor's cant help much because they're hands are tied because they're afraid of being red tagged. I don't want to get my doctor in trouble because he really does try to help. Can I go after someone else. Like I said the FDA wants all my medical numbers so they can do who knows what to me. Very tired. Please email me because I can't follow the leads on this sight.

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have you considered methadone?

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if you can just detox from your pain meds and be okay then why are you taking them. It sounds like you have a legitimate injury so why dont you switch to dilaudads or morphine? if you can just detox and be done with it, then more power to you. i believe in some respects I am addicted but the pain is so severe AND new oxys upset my stomach and raise my blood pressure. I pray you are one of those who can detox & handle their pain mentally!! Good luck.

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i dont know where you live but regardless of complaints, high blod pressure and continual pain I am doing what many others are, which is eating a glob of gue. But... I still have massive pain, high blood pressure, and continual headaches which I didn't before. I live in CA. and are still getting the new formula. No complaints have helped. i've tried dilaudad, & morphine. They just don"t WORK!

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this may have been a detailed response but she seems too be speaking from her heart which is filled with frustration. my significant other is on these meds and is facing the same truths and realizations. continue gulping ur meds and consider urself well. good luck to you.

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You don't know what you are talking about. If you really tried "scraping the outer coating" off of, say, a 10mg OP (white round new style)...you would soon find out that the "outer coating" never ends! It has a gel based substance that exists throughout the entire pill to the very center....so...unless the larger ones i.e. 80mg are diff..then it's a losing battle. IT CAN'T BE DONE MICROWAVED, FROZEN, MIXED W/ASCORBIC ACID, COKE, VISE-GRIPS, PEDI_PAWS, NOTHING WORKS PEOPLE! Best advice is asking your MD for a diff script of oxycodone IR or insist on something better....methadone seems to be the best damn thing out there....half-life is structured so much better! It actually "builds-up" in your system so after the first 3 or 4 (first dose) you need only take 1 or 2 every 6 or 8 hrs. Much better euphoria (which by definition means NON-PAIN!!) I have a serious 33 yr old blown knee and have taken lortab, morphine sulphate, oxycontin, methadone, dilaudid...the methadone is the cheapest and the best for pain/buzz/whatever...and I know some claim it's as addictive as the others above I disagree. If I withdraw from hydrocodone I get 7 days of hell...no sleep, aching legs, diahrea [sic], etc etc...but not w/methadone! I can take it for say...4 or 5 days straight and get up out of bed and go to work with only the mental issue of "wanting" more...not "needing" more.....I say screw the pharma co's. for thinking they are doing a god job reducing number of overdoses etc...sorry but most of the people that OD are either stupid and mixing stuff/taking way way more than usual, or they have a death wish. Sorry...but I have seen it all from Europe to U.S. since the mid 70's.....If opiates come from the poppy plants then who is one man to say another man CAN'T HAVE ANY??? It's my earth as much as it is Mr. DEA's...you dig? If I want to self-medicate, who is some anal red-neck with personal issues of power hunger be allowed to stop me? Sorry...I just don't get it....How much money was spent screwing up the composition of opiate pain-killers
that SHOULD have been spent on cures for cancer? Priorities are always messed up in this world of know-it-alls, so I guess we just have to live with it...for now.

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You people act like a dog chasing his own tail. I'm on 3 60's and two 15 IR a day. I DON'T want to go on morphine or anything else. I am in pain 24/7 and I swallow them as prescribed. I'm NOT looking for that illusive high. I DON'T want to be high, I want to be out of pain! But I do know one thing, one of these days, my number is gonna come up and I want to leave this earth OUT of pain. So you go on morphine now and your body gets used to that and you have lost the ability for your body to process a new pain reliever. We are not gonna change the NEW oxy's (even though they are garbage) but Big Brother knows better for us.

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Microwave def works just did it with a 30 didn't even grind it that fine just chopped it up kinda small about 1-2 mm good drip good buzz def not old school but better than eating them, just make sure u got a couple hrs lmao

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You are a jerkoff, people are going to do whatever they want regaurdless of your rant about drug heads even though you are one yourself... think about it jack.

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have you tried smoking them? YOU JUST HAVE TO SUCK OFF THE TOP COATING FIRST. PUT IT ON TIN FOIL. LIGHTER UNDER THE FOIL STRAW OR PEN ABOVE FOIL INHALE SMOKE HOLD YOUR BREATH EXHALE

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News flash....we all die in the end any way

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why not diet coke?

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What the heck are you talking about the girl that post is just above yours what she is saying makes perfectly good sense to me have you been on any of this stuff if not then you would have no idea what she goes through everything she is saying make good and perfect sense to me . Its people like you who dont know a dam thing about what we go through when it comes to pain and pain doctors and the run around you get and they can do what ever they please and yes she is right about a law suit in the next few yrs about this knew drug or not knew another drug to take that is suppose to be the same as the oxy's yeah sure thats what they say. What about what we say. I am sick of people like you , P.s I am a doctor so I do know what the hell I am talking about thought I would wright this so you would understand it in a child's lingo . Go do some home work.

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BeBe - you say you are a Doc, PLEASE do you think we are all STUPID here? You can't even spell. LOL

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