Suboxone (Thread 184487)

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johngz Says:


has anyone come down from suboxone slowly with no ill effect.


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johngz Says:

yes ,i was on 115 mgs of methadone @ swithed to suboxone,it was much easier to ween down from sub than methadone,i'm on 4mgs,down from 16 mgs,it's a good treatment and you must ween down slowly,2mgs every 2 weeks,no sickness,that wasn't the case with methadone.

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Verwon Says:

Suboxone is very popular for this very reason, a slow taper makes it much easier to get off and stay off drugs.

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Catherine Says:

i am down to one suboxone a day now after being on three for about 6 months...i cannot afford it anymore so i plan to be weened on in a month or so...should i split my films in half for 2 weeks then to 1/4 ? will that help with withdrawal symptoms....i am scared of the symptons cause i work and go to school and do not want to be or feel sick around anyone...does anyone know how long u will feel withdrawal symptons after stopping completely? help with advice?

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cookie Says:

Can u slowly taper down on suboxene? I want to get off so expensive, trying to take less and less. Is that possible to taper?

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steffie Says:

as with everyone else I too would love any information on the tapering I am doing it now only on 1.25mg daily but dont think I will be able to go much lower already doing pretty bad, dont get me wrong I am just sick and confussed, not like I am dying ill, very tire just out of it like I am higher than hell on something. Do not like this at all guess that is why I never did alot of drugs, even pot mad me feel this way I only ever taken norco for pain and that is it until this wounderful drug suboxone haha it is the kind of joke that you wished you had got to hear the punch line first. Because it is the end that we were not told about!

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steffie Says:

i cant even think to spell correctly I am sorry for that, the brain just is not working at full power today, or maybe my hands are going slower not sure which, but i think you all get the picture. going to go do what everyone says talk a walk see if that can wake me up a bit let the sunshine on me for awhile need the vit.D anyway I just wont go far lol

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Joyce Says:

Steffie I've been on it a little over a month but I did not go to my last appointment. I figure the shorter amount of time I'm on it the easier to grt off. I just wish I knew a good way to divide the film.

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sam Says:

I started on 12mg. in middle of March. Tapered to 8mg then to 6mg then to 4mg. Today started on 3mg. Dr. put me on the 2mg. strips so it will be easier to devide them. I have yet to feel any discomfort bettween tapers.

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steffie Says:

Joyce, fold the film in half then cut it, it you need to fold it in half again do the same thing. Remember if you are on the 2mg film, the first cut will make it 1mg, then the second cut will make it 1/2mg. I found that to be the easy way to do it, just make sure your hands and sissors are dry

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steffie Says:

sam and joyce I am glad that your tappering is going well and I hope you do not give up, It can be done, so I am told. Suboxone was a nightmare for me, I was not started on it the right way, after meeting so many people I do believe that if it was done correctly this would have worked, I tired it for 7 months, felt bad the whole time, I got down to 1mg and jumped with the help of a bad thing, I took 1 and 1/2 norco a day for a week and now I am lower it to 1 then 1/2 then none, I have never went over my limit. before all this started I was only on 4-5 norco a day for servere pain from some back and injuries to both knees, what a mistake it has been for me, I was sick from the get go and yes I waited along time to start the subs 5 days to be correct, they should have never given them to me at such a high dose, for what I was taking 16mg was way to much, but I didnt know, and I really didnt know how to tappering all the way, I think I was so scared about being so sick again that I used the norco just so i didnt have to face the WD from the subs. No, I would not say that it is a smart thing to do because you must have great controll, so I give my meds to my husband so I can never take more than that amount anyday, so I have help. Just get help when you need it, ask questions like your are, visit different sites if you have to, the subs work great for some people I know, and if it works for you, great. If you no longer are in pain and feel you are (and your Dr.) ready to get off them, then start now, dont stay on them because of fear like I did, it will only make harder, I know some people say 6 to 9 months, I am not sure I agree with that, I think each case is different and depends on you, the drugs you were on, how much and for how long you took them, and the biggest reason why you took them. I think that if you can anwser all those above with honesty then you will know when the time is right for you to come off subs, until you can do that do not let anyone rush you. Remember the final out come of all this is all up to you, and only you can decide to stay clean or not, so take your time and think about everything before you take each step, if you do that I believe you will have success

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cookie Says:

i WAS ONLY ON SUBS FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS, AND IT'S TAKEN MORE THAN 2 MONTHS TO TAPER DOWN. I'M NOW 1/3 EVERYOTHER DAY, AND AM SOOOOO NAUSEOUS I CAN'T EVEN EAT, THE HEADACHES ARE SO BAD, I JUST WANT TO DIE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN TAKE. I WANT IT TO BE OVER WITH AND NOT MORE PILLS FOR ME. I HAVE SERIOUS BACK INJ. ON WORKERS COMP. BUT ALL THESE PILLS ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN COULD, BUT I WILL PREVAIL, HOPEFULLY. GOD BLESS YOU.qk

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bob zimmerman Says:

Probably the benzos you might abuse...also very psychologic, if you think about it all the times, you will have a bad time, try to change your method.

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cj Says:
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If money is a major concern go on the manufacturer of suboxones website, get the 1800 number, call and request that forms be sent to you regarding the free program. Bring the forms to your sub Dr, if your Dr does not already have 3 patients on the program you may be eligible. If that doesn't work go to heretohelp.com ( not sure if it is .com or .org). This is a suboxone website that offers guidance, advise, money saving coupons etc.. To address your other question, tapering off is the goal of the program. It is relatively easy ( for most) to taper down to the lowest dose. The hard part is getting off completely. The longer you put it off the worse it usually is but you should also devise a plan for getting off completely. Expect to feel not so well and try to time it to coincide with some time off from school and work. Drink a ton of hot tea, water and cranberry juice, all liquids. I actually made up a little kit. Everything was within arms length. I drank a lot of liquids, stocked up on movies, took a ton of vitamins and took a hot bath a few times a day. It's a great thing if you have a hot tub! There's no miracle unfortunately, so I had to try different things in order to come up with the best methods of alleviating the depression and discomfort that inevitably accompanies getting off the subs. You will have insomnia, whatever u do, don't take sleeping pills, Nyquil etc. They all have an adverse effect and intensify the insomnia. I just realized that I didn't look at the date of your post and it could have been years ago. Anyway, if this helps you or anyone that's great. I researched and tried everything when I decided to get off of subs so I know that I was extremely interested in what others who have experienced it had to say. Good luck and God bless!

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blumist Says:

i feel as if i cant stop the suboxone ive been on it a month or so but before i was on h for 4 years can you help with any infor for me i know this is your thread but if anyone has helped you mayb you could help me

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getwellsoon Says:

blumist, i have just stopped taking subs after being on them over a year. I notice that a lot of people post about what they have been on before subs, and im her to tell you it DOES NOT MATTER!!!. What you have to do is decide to live in the here and NOW. To take charge of your life no matter what you did in the past. Learn from your mistakes, accept who you are and be proud only then will you draw the will power to conquer getting off the subs and staying off the junk or pills. I have never stepped foot in a rehab, admitted to anyone but myself i have a major issue ( it was obvious) or turned into a hipcritical bible thumper. I'm not saying these things are no good, I just believe that the power to get clean, stay clean is within us all and only we can make it happen, its a personal journey. you have to pick your path and you have to get there so man up.
I stopped by tapering down to a very small amount after using them for almost 2yrs. I then used advice from internet that suggested immodium pills with 1 zantac to take edge off of w/d's and it WORKED. I took 4-6 immodiums 2x's for first 2 days, 3-4 x 2immodiums for the next two and 2-3 x1 for next 4 days. I have now been sub free for 4weeks and feel GREAT!. I feel 25 again..im 35. Take bennadryle and zzz quil or tylenol pm to sleep and goto doctor for high blood pressure medicine or steal some from mom or dad. thats one of the most uncomfortable things you will experience, your bllod pressure will be thru the roof. cut out the salt and s*** food, drink tons of water and above all EXCERCISE and drink protein shakes.
Remember its all about time, and passing it. set your mind to getting clean and rediscovering the world around you, do something you have always wanted to do but never make the time, you will discover that the days will go fast, and you will feel better every day. thats all i have for you good luck!!!..

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Midiman Says:

Exacto knife.

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m2sub Says:

All this info has been very helpful. ive been on methadone almost 3yrs just switched to subs bcuz i cant be sick for months as i have a 3yo. ive heard subs are an easier withdrawal. the doc had me come down to 5mg meth then 4 days off b4 starting me on 16sub. rough transition and 16 is way too high its my 3rd day and ive only been taking 8 which seems too high too. i want to only stay on long enough to get through the meth withdrawl im thinking 2 months. has anyone else done this? i want to stay on the lowest dose i can for as short as possible as i have to take care of my daughter and cant lie in bed for days,

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jolter Says:

Hi m2sub,
Theres no secret way or silver bullet for tapering off subs. Most people will agree that if you want to get off subs with the least wd symptoms you need to taper slowly.

The longer you wait bettween each drop the better.
Subs have a very long half life so at the least you should wait a full week bettween drops.

You,ll need to taper to the smallest dose you can. Like .25mgs.

Don,t rush it. Just drop a couple mgs each time. The longer time you give your body to get used to each drop the better.

Why not try and get your dr. on board?

Tell him you been thinking about it and you just want to be off everything.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

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m2sub Says:

thanks. i just started the sub and am really using it just to get off the methadone. i think i will try ur suggestion of waiting longer between drops, i want to keep my tolerance as low as possible. called the doc. it feels so good to be off that crap!

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Doc Says:

I was a suboxone patient in '07 and now am a prescriber. I went from 2.5 8mg tabs/(20mg)day to none in 8 weeks and had next to no dope sickness with the exception of mild hot/cold flashes for about a week. Went to 8mg BID x 1 week to 4 mg BID x 1 week and continued cutting my dose in half each week until done. Realize this...it is NEVER 10% free to get off of opiates but remember this and know you're going to have to go through some discomfort. For some reason we addicts seem to think we should feel good all the time and that there is always a pain-free way or treatment. WRONG! Just expect some discomfort, do it, and get over it. It will be done before you know it.

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