White Watson 853
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So recently I received a white Watson 853 that looks identical to the yellow ones; size, shape, imprint. Everything checks out except it does not feel as strong as the yellow. I was then told that Watson is not manufacturing yellow ones anymore so I checked the Watson/actavis website. They had no info on white 853. Are these fake?

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White Watson 853's - noticed that the lettering on some is slightly blurrier or wider and the pill itself very slightly smaller - could this just normal variations between batches or are these being widely counterfitted? Anyone know of a reliable online company that will test them for ingredients and strength? Or is there an accurate home test you can buy ? Thanks

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Any luck on this matter. This is my first experience with them.

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I have been in pain management for 15 years. I have opted to stay on hydrocodone after my doctor switched me to oxycontin and morphine and I had bad experiences with them. I have just recently (in the past 3 days) been taking the white Watson 853, and it has been awful. There is little to no pain relief, and the side effects are unreal. I went on the internet to see if there were similar complaints and am overwhelmed by the fact that patients have been complaining about this for so long and apparently nothing is being done. It is hard enough having your voice heard regarding pain management without having pharmaceutical companies blatantly taking advantage of us as well.

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They still make the yellow one I get them every moth form the. Hospil

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Everyone is saying these are fake has anyone found out any info

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What is the status of your research?? Have you done anything as you said?
Curious of why this is going on.

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Hum they work for me are u in mass

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I actually printed out a couple of pages from this site, and my doctor told me she had heard a similar report from two of her elderly patients, who are typically in a group more sensitive to medication. This might at least supportive in preventing the dr from tossing you. It's infuriating that a single company is possibly leaving serious pain patients under-medicated, but even worse that these patients are at risk of getting NO care if they attempt to complain to their physician. I hope physicians are eventually willing to look more logically at issues like this instead of assuming pain patients are just building a tolerance or abusing. The risk of abuse and, thus, liability, comes second to nothing for SO many doctors. Some likely deserve to be used for negatively impacting the quality of life of patients by refusing to treat or under-medicating based on assumptions or fears. If someone has a well-documented issue, and it is one that typically causes PAIN, they are not at risk in any way and should TRUST before assuming dishonest motivation.

I am, thankfully, off of all pain meds now. My pain is minimal after treatment, but not everyone will experience relief (possibly ever depending on the issues) and these companies are gaming the system. Period. Whatever the FDA is overlooking here, I hope they figure it out soon. Good luck.

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HAS THIS PROBLEM BEEN FIXED??? ARE THE WHITE WATSONS STILL HALF THE STRENGTH THEY SHOULD BE??? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THIS ISSUE?? ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING??

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Let me know what u do i want to help. I too am beyond upset, especially now since after using walgreens for the last 9 months all the sudden my dr is too far away for them to fill my norco LOL i am in shock my dr is in same county just 2 towns over. so since i have NO CAr and had to ask a woman i never met before to drive me to my appt i had no choice but to go where i knew theyd fill one of my prescriptions , target, and they have the 2nd WORST ones!! qualitest! HORRIBLE..i was only on 4 a day but since the watson bs my dr upped them by ONE a day (which he threatened to discharge me as a patient after HE UPPED i didnt ask) and i just took 2 at a time and NOTHING..i am in shock disgusted etc..i have been takin amneal the last 2 months and they were also horrible. but if i took 1 1/2 at a time i was fine. now this bs with 2 at a time..something is SERIOUSLY WRONG! i am being forced to work and i have no idea how im gonna work in this pain. UNBELIEVABLE - has there been a recall on the qualitest??? they are worse then the new watson are! are you able to have the pill tested with that detection website?? to find out there is no hydrocodone in the pillS?? that is the only way anyone will get in any trouble.

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I have the money to bring these people down with, I am going through withdrawal, saving the pills I have left, and I am going to go after Actives, FDA, Walgreen's, and my Pain Clinic.
It is going to be all nice and legal so the head coal burner can put me on his hit list.
This has been done on purpose, and it could only have been perpetuated with, and by, all of the above mentioned in a conspiracy.
There is no other way to look at it. I did fine for two and a half to almost three years on my four Vicodin daily until this S*** white ones were dosed out on the unsuspecting public, by the FDA, and the head charcoal burner who told the to do it.
There will be Justice down, tho the heavens may fall.

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That recall was for the Blue not the White.

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Well, I guess I'm not alone. I've been taking the yellow Watson 853 tab - 10-325 hydrocodone/acetaminophen 2X daily for about six years. I'd take my first pill in the morning with a cup of coffee while checking emails etc., then in about 15-20 minute later I can feel that warm fuzzy narcotic feeling kicking in then I forget I have any neck-back pain. No Walgreens has switched to these white ones and they are NOT working at all.

I've read that all they've done is remove the yellow dye but I've noticed how chalky and quickly they dissolve before swallowing. My doctor says that Watson/Actavis have likely switched who's manufacturing them and I'm probably getting inferior quality from overseas. Here's an article I found interesting: fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm320566.htm

I'll be discussing with my family doctor what other narcotic/opiates/opioids options are available without stepping up to oxycodone or percocet.

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HOLY S***, just found this thread on here with 260 replies about the white watsons
Discuss/White-Watson-10mg-325-853-245408_p1_s2.htm

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Come on guys I have to go fill a big script(240) and I don't want to get them if they are still s***? what pharmacy has the second best brand of norco? Let me know ASAP! Thanks!!

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So can I get an update on this situation? Are the new white watsons still weak as f***ing s***?

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NOPE i have got the amneal brand last month and its HORRIBLE! i am out of them and my dr appt isnt til next week! they are just as worthless as new watsons are the only difference is they dont have all the nasty side effects the new watsons do. I am sick over this i am in pain 24/7 unless itake 2 at a time and my stupid dr only has me on 4 a day for over a year now and tried cuttin my dose last month! so hes not gonna prescribe me more for sure andidk what to do ! i can only afford to go to my dr one more time my unemployment is out and i have a year to wait for my disability hearing. cant get medicaid dont know what the f to do . nobody will help me pay for this ripoff dr $200 a month plus over $100 am onth on meds.! I HAVE EMAILED 4 different catholic organizations and not a single one has got back to me in 2 weeks lol anyone know of a place who may help me for a few months? dont tell me to call 211 or my county human services cuz i have tried everything there is to try in this sickening area of florida, there is no help for people like me NONE

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Has anyone found a better Norco? Anyone try other stores to see what they have. I agree the yellow cvs pill Sucks.. They white Watsons are better..

If we could get together and test them we could sue.. Imagine the class action lawsuit.! Save your bottles!

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WHY has there not been a recall yet? this is bs. i am out hundreds of dollars each month i cannot get medicaid or on disability and am not able to work. i go through ALOT each month to get pain relief this is beyond ridiculous how can this be legal? it cant be time to find more lawyers ..i have asked the fda why this has not been recalled yet and no answer. ive been waking from excruciating back pain for weeks now every day and has NEVER happened before they changed their pills..and i was on it for about a year.

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can anyone help me? it seems almost ALL of the threads about this bs have been deleted RIDICULOUS..someone please have these tested if i could i would..go to drugdetection they will test for $400 and prove we are being ripped off bigtime why have all the threads been deleted? hmm go to the news and newpapers about this also i am doing it every day to every newspaper and news everywhere i have a dr appt today can anyone help me i was just upped my dose last month now this bs so what i was upped to is not helping me..my pharmacist has amneal brand too is this better? please reply asap thanks

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