Can A Methadone Patient Detox With Suboxone? And How?

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Hadi Says:

Can a Methadone patient detox with Suboxone and what mg dose do they need to do if they are currently on 30 mg Methadone a day? And what's the procedure? Like, do they have to taper the Methadone down first, and by doing, so do they go through any withdrawal symptoms?

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David Says:

Each individual is likely going to have a very different withdrawal experience due to several factors, such as tolerance to pain, reaction/tolerance to these types of medications, one's body chemistry, mental fortitude, and so forth...

However it doesn't really sound like you'd be detoxing (withdrawing) much at all if your just going from one synthetic opiate to another. (Suboxone and Methadone are both used to treat patients with opioid dependency or addiction).

The only thing I would strongly recommend doing first and foremost, is double checking with your doctor before stoping any particular medication. Your doctor probably knows your medical records better than anyone else besides yourself, so you kinda have to work with them or choose to go with your gut when it comes to these types of decisions.

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corey Says:

try to taper off the methadone first i quit cold turkey 60 mill three years trust me you dont want that it lasted three months and i wanted to die dysphoria restless leg depression super loose stool and insomnia severe severe insomnia i slept ten minutes a day just crying and moving all around could get comfortable everything hurt for three months threeeee month then i got on bupenorphine and it saved me so either taper off the methadone or get on suboxene because in the beginning of my meth withdrawl i thought i could just eat vics to help nope didnt do anything my mu receptors were shot so suboxene imo is like the only opioid that will help hope that helps

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Cats68 Says:

Hi Hadi, I was on 110mgs of methadone and tapered down to 24mgs. At that point I was withdrawing do badly so my doctor put me on suboxone. I didn't want to be on methadone anymore. The doctor can decide how muck suboxone to prescribe according to how much methadone you are on. I use the suboxone for addiction and pain. It works great for me, no withdrawals or cravings.

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Teddyt Says:

I have done research on detoxing Methadone with Subutex or Suboxone. This is a very trick subject cause you have to be off Methadone completely for two days to be able to get on Subutex (Suboxone minus the naloxone) Buprenorphine to make it simpler. You will go into precipitated withdrawals if you don't stop Methadone or any other opioid for two days. Google it, it's reality , I have been living this nightmare for almost twenty years. I would taper off the Methadone. Give it two days then start the Subutex/Suboxone. I am not a doctor , but I feel that I know a little more on this subject than most. Or you can substitute a easier opioid like oxycodone or dilaudid until you get off of methadone then wait two days and start Subutex. Good luck to you my friend for I am on 20mg of Methadone and am going through the same dilemma. SWIM told me all this info about precipitated withdrawals and I checked the info. It definitely holds water, we are in a methadone nightmare. LMK how it works out and I will do the same.

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Mikey Says:

I'm on 380 of methadone I couldn't dose 2day and have sweats and body pain,How much longer till I can take a suboxon

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Forever fighting Says:

I was on methadone over a year for previous opiate abuse. For me methadone was a huge mistake (it does work for some). For me I received pill form a month at a time and began to abuse it somewhere along the way after I received the pills from my doctor instead of continuing at a methadone maintenance center where I had to go 3xs a week. I decided to make the switch to suboxone and after 4 days detoxing I was miserable but I had tried to switch one other time and had precipitated withdrawals after 4 days of stopping methadone and inducting suboxone. It was terrible. I made myself suffer 3 1\2 weeks in bed before inducting the last time
Miserable wasn't the word for it. IT WAS HELL ON EARTH!!! I WAS IN BED AWAKE IN PACK SICKER THEN IVE EVER BEEN. I WAMTED TO DIE RIGHT THERE SHAKING RESTLESS LEG WAS SO BAD I KICKED AND KICKED AND KICKED NOTHING FOOD WISE STAYED DOWN I WAS LIVONG ON SIPS OF WATER AMD PEDIALITE AND THE OCCASIONAL VEGETABLE SOUP OR BEEF broth. I FINALLY WAS LOSING MY MIND I WOULD TRY AND MOVE MY ARM OR LEGS AND MY BODY TOOK A FEW SECONDS TO RESPOND. IT WAS LIKE MY BRAIN WASNT TELLING MY body WHAT TO DO FAST enough. FINALLY I REALIZED IT WAS TIME FOR SUBOXONE DUE TO THE HORRIBLE SHAPE I WAS IN. 4 YEARS LATER I AM NOW WEANING OFF MY SUBOXONE ON MY OWN. MY DOC WPULD LOVE ME TO BE A LIFER. I WENT FROM 3 8MG STRIPS IN 3 MONTHS DOWN TO 1 TO 2 MG EVERY 3 DAYS...I AM SLOWING DOWN THE WEAN CUZ IT SEEMS TO SHOCK MY BODY SINCE I SKIP DAYS SO I WAIT A WEEK OR 2 TO DROP NOW. Suboxone saved my life, I own my own LANDSCAPING company now, have held down 3 jobs this year and I am a female so my rapid success with my company is an awesome feeling. But I want the sobriety I LOVE WHAT I HAVE. MY PARENTS HAVE CHANGED AND SEE ME AS SUCCESSFUL AND IT FEELS GOPD TO BE TRUSTED AGAIN.
BUT SIBOXONE IS MY CRUCH AND I WILL WEAN AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO NOT EVER GO BACK TO MY OLD LIFE
MY 31/2 weeks of suffering was by choice it was horrible but I knew if. Didn't push myself through that time I wouldn't associate methadone as a bad thing or take suboxone seriously as a maintenance drug. I'm an addict I know what not taking maintenance therapy did to me it caused a terrible terrible withdrawal...and a terrible life too. It was worse ADDICTION the the reason I started taking methadone I was able to hang on and suffer coming off 145mg of methadone a day not including the "extra" I was taking so needless to say it was dangerous for me to detox like that and be sick as long as I was in withdrawal my doctor said I was in a terrible state and almost was hospitalized but I needed to associate the pain and the horror and the terrible RLS AND THE SICKNESS TO KNOW THAT I WOULD NEVER PUT MYSELF THROUGH THAT AGAIN. (I DONT RECOMMEND THIS BUT IF YOU CAN LAST A WEEK DETOXING OFF METHADONE BEFORE TRANSITION THE LONGER THE BETTER). BUT I am not bashing methadone, I had access to month supplies and in pill form and it was something about the pill form that triggers me.. I love pills the liquid at the clinic was able to make me see it as a medical mintnence but those PILLS MAN I KNEW ID JUST TAKLE ONE MORE IT WOULD BE FINE.. AND THE THE NPANIOC AND COUNTING THEM TO SEE HOW MANY I HAD LEFT STARTED AND RUNNING OUT AND LOOKING FOE SOMEONE TO SELL TAKE HOMES UGH AND MONEY I SPENT WTF HAD I BECOME AGAIN.. SO to everyone trying to make the switch this is the steps I took and how I was able to take 3 1/2 weeks to suffer. MY PERSONAL STEPS TO TRANSITION TO SUBOXONE FROM METHADONE (What worked for me doesn't work for everyone).

#1 my new live in boyfriend (NOW MY HUSBAND OF 4YRS.) committed in my recovery (he is not an addict)
#2 NO CELL PHONE cut all ties from any source of finding or getting to relief
#3 NO CAR
#3 NO LEAVING MY HOUSE UNLESS WITH MY PARENTS, MY SOBER LANDLORD (WHO was AWSOME SUPPORT also not an addict)
#4 I NO LONGER KEEP IN TOUCH WITH OLD ADDICTS I ASSOCIATED WITH. (Today I still will say hi to them But I WILL NOT BE AROUND ACTIVE USERS FOR THE FEAR OF RELAPSE.)

Relapse can happen to anyone. 10, 20, 30 yrs. of sobriety doesn't mean anything when you expose yourself to old friends places and have a bad day or a tragic event happen. I WAS ALSO A METHAMPHETAMINE ADDICT AMD I RELAPSED AFTER 12 YRS AND IT LITERALLY WAS A FULL BLOWN ACTIVE ADDICTION IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE. (IVE BEEN OFF METHAMPHETAMINE FOR ALMOST 6 YRS. NO RELAPSE!!!! But to those who lack support or a significant other who isn't am addict it is hard so don't feel like if you fail trying what I did means you can't find you own way. Everyone's ADDICTION is one thing no one else can say ITS YOUR STORY AND YOUR JOURNEY AND NO ADDICTION OR STORY IS THE SAME ... BUT TRY MAKING YOUR DETOX when you're ready and plan. If you work(in that time I had the luxury of bf. Helping me and I could take 3weeks in bed. But you need that time without work with distraction or communication to contact anyone who will be more than happy to make you lose track of detox they want your money and they DO NOT CARW IF YOU GET SOBER NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY THE DRUG DEALER HATES YOU GETTING SOBER. AND YOU NO what not one person I used with contacts me anymore once in a blue moon to see if I have pills to sell and to see if I fell of the wagon(THATS all they want seeing how I am is their way of trying to get their foot in the door)
But I'm on to the fake ppl. I have no desire to be associated with my past.

I will help those who come for help even if they relapse i will take them to get on suboxone. I don't think methadone is the way to go(from my experience) so I won't take them through the methdone clinic but I will give them the phone number and directions.it does work for some and I've seen success stories of weaning off. it wasn't for me ..suboxone now after almost 5 yrs. Isn't fun I don't feel high but impress me getting surgeries done and impeedsm travel plans and I forget to go get the refill so 5 days I sometimes start a small withdraw but the fact of me forgetting means I don't NEED IT OR CRAVE IT LIKE I DID METHADONE ANMD I DONT ABUSE IT AND DONT ASSOCIATE IT WITH GETTING LOADED MAND HIGH SO IT WORKS FOR ME. IT is still A drug and that's why I am weaning but it has changed my life in ways I never imagined.

*I never thought id be 8 yrs. out of prison and no parole, etc.
*No looking over shoulder
*No scared driving without a license (I HAVE ONE FOR 2YRS NOW. I DIDNT FOR OVER 11YRS.)
*respect in the community as a business owner
*family respects me as the 35 yr. old positive influence in my kids life (they recently asked me to house sit and watch my oldest son who I have never had at home due to bad decisions he's 17 my baby is 16yrs. old lives with me)

To hear my mom asked me to house sit was me knowing where I stood with them... I wasn't allowed in the house 10yrs straight alone for fear of me stealing money or stealing things to pawn..TRUST IS A GREAT FEELING. SO ITS POSSIBLE IVE BEEN BROKEN ,HOMELESS, IN PRISON, ALONE AT BOTTOM , MY EX HUBAND GAVE ME AS COLLATERAL TO CARTEL FOR MONEY OWED LIKE I WAS A DOLLAR BILL AND COULD CARELESS WHAT HAPPENED IN MEXICO DURING THE TIME I WAS THERE. I ALMOST DIDNT COME BACK. I HAVE BEEN SO DESPERATE ID STEAL AND CON ANYONE. I HAVE A CONSCIENCE. THEN I DIDNT. I BEGGED, CHEATED, SCHEMED, LIED, MANIPULATED, AND NEVER TOOK RESPONSIBILITY. I BLAMED MY DOCTOR FOR HOOKING ME CUZ I BROKE MY NECK AND HE GOT ME INTO DEPENDENCE, (Yet it was my fault not to speak up when i was spiraling out of control) AND I NEVER GAVE UP AND THE PHRASE "GOD DOESNT GIVE YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE. Well he doesn't we a resilient. You can be something better if you want it bad enough. Where you came from where you are now is an EXCUSE. EMOTIONAL PHYSICAL ABUSE AND TRAUMA CAN BE HEALED AND NOT COVERED WITH DRUGS
AND IF YOUR ALONE... LIKE I WAS.... I FOUND A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE FOR KE NOW BECAUSE THEY LOVE AND CARE I CAM CPUNT THJEM ON ONE HAND BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL LOVE ANMD ACCEPT THE SOBER REA
YOU.

I thought I was too broken too gone and my husband didn't know what he was getting into but even though my ADDICTION was worse then he ever imagined until living with me he loves me he didn't leave and my friends that were there were new friends sober friends and at times it was hard for them to watch me suffer but they were there not for drugs or money for me... And someone out there will be there for you too. One the withdrawal ends and the fog clears you'd be surprised how fast you will become you again and how life isnt small and how being by yourself (I was along in my thoughts without recovering addicts my husband tried to understand but he didn't but I was okay blogging or chatting with former addicts not in person ppl. Are my weakness I try to fix. So I have to distance myself but being ALONE FOR A FEW DAYS IM OK WITH THAT, IM OKAY WITH MY LESS THAM PERFECT BODY AFTER GAINING WEIGHT BACK, MY LESS THAM PERFECT CHARACTER, AND JUST okay being me.. I don't have to be someone to impress someone.. IF SOMEONE LOVES YOU AND IS THERE FOR YOU THEY WILL NOT ASK YOU TO CHANGE WONT LEAVE AT YOUR LOWEST AND YOU WILL LEARN THAT HAVING YOURSELF IS ENOUGH.. WHY HAVE 20 PPL. YOU CALL IN AN EMERGENCY WHO NEVER HELP YOU NOW THAT YOU ARE SOBER ...? YOU ARE ALL YOU NEED AND 1GOOD PWRSON TO TRUST WILL EVENTUALLY FIND YOU BUT IMHAD TOMDO MY DETOX WITHOUT ANYONE... I HAD TO SHOW MY SELF IN WAS WORETH FIGHTING FOR ..I HAD A ROOF OVER MY HEAD (thanks to a new understanding landlord). A boyfriend who tried his best to be supportive even though he didn't understand not quitting cold turkey (BUT UNDERSTOOD I JUST NEEDED HIM PRESENT SOMETIMES TO LISTEN). SO PLEASE! DONT GIVE UP. IVE BEEN AN ADDICT SINCE I WAS 13. IM ALMOST 36...
IM JUST STARTING MY LIFE. IT IS NEVER TOO LATE.

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Michael Says:

Yes, by micro-dosing.

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