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Taking Subutex And Percocet Together (Page 27)
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My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a percocet. I usually take 15 mg percocet at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?
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i took 3/4 subutex this morning and took one 1 and 1/2 perc a cpl hrs later and really dnt feel like I got enough subutex it's like 5 hrs since taking the perk do you think it is safe t take more of my subutex now?
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Mindy Says:
How? N where?
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Pain guy Says:
Wrong dilaudid is hydromorphone oxymorphone is opana I hope u never fill my prescriptions.
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Roxie Says:
I had 4 wisdom teeth removed last week on Thursday. I stopped taking Subutex 2 days before the procedure hoping it would clear my system so that the percocets would work for my post procedure pain. I took the Subutex for 5-6 months pretty regularly. Anywhere from 16 mg to 1mg up and down as I tried to break free from it. I was only able to do so because of my fear of surgery and not being able to get relief. I had switched myself over from Suboxone after getting clean from a 6 year norco addiction. In the past before Suboxone or subutex I could take one Percocet and feel fine. Now even after being off the subutex for over a week the percocets 5-6 of them do absolutely nothing. I was wondering if anyone else had this experiance.... Thanks. Just curious. It sucks when you need pain relief and nothing works. Thank god the worst is over now!
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Roxie Says:
Oxymorphone is the generic for dilaudid. I'm a pharmacy tech. Lol
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AH27 Says:
Couldn't agree more. Detoxed off many things in my, sadly, 10 years of pretty intense drug use. Detox of prescription oxycodone was by far the worst, even more so than H. Granted was up to around 800-1000mgs oral/nasal daily for months and months, but the withdrawal was UNFATHOMBLE. I was in the worst pain of my life it was too much to take. Literally didn't think i'd make it, but I did, and now here to pass on my story and say be very very careful with the oxys or H, because even tho the oxy withdrawal is worse, they both take over your life without knowing what has happened. DON'T DO IT!!!!!
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thirtiez Says:
OK I just got the 54 411 subutex...my.last dose was about 9am this morning which was3 perc 30s....i just took a qtr of the subutex about an hour ago.
..no signs of withdrawal or pre/wd....also in my own personal experience I have taken subutex 8 hours after my last dose and never got pre/wd so I think it's safe to say the 54 411 subutex don't put you into pre wd if you take with opiates I just wouldn't take them so.close together...hope this little bit of info will.help someone out there
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Nunia Says:
You only go into withdrawal if you take SUBOXONE and still have opiates on board, meaning in your system. I have personally IV'ed a 15mg oxycodone because I was sick and couldn't wait for my Subutex. The 15mg didnt cut it so when I did get the Subutex, around 45 minutes later I booted a half of that (4mgs) No withdrawl whatsoever. Again, the only way it really causes withdrawal is if you take SUBOXONE to close after taking another opiate. While on either, SUBOXONE or Subutex you can take any Opiate you want and not worry about withdrawl. You just won't feel the effects of said Opiate because the Bup is whats taking up your receptors and won't be kicked off. So you would basically be just wasting whatever Opiate you tried using.
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Jojo Says:
hey you said you went threw withdraw with florcet? how? was it because something eles? i dnt understand.plz hrlp bc im on those..
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Toni Says:
My mistake..I should have said Oxycodone. The chemical structure is closely related to oxymorophone . My Bad.
I would think if a MD. is prescribing either of the drugs, the risk of fatality is on the doctor, or the person taking it irresponsiblely
Peace.
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Toni Says:
I'd would wait 24 hours, due to the blockade effect of the suboxone. I'm having surgery the 23rd, and I'm going to stop my Subutex 24 hours prior to surgery...Remember , these are long acting drugs, so You won't go into hardcore withdrawl. Good luck..!!
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kristy Says:
What website did you find those at, where you don't need a Dr. Script
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a Says:
number 90 is for toni
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a Says:
nooooo, percodan is oxycodone and asprin! you shoud do your research before yo comment on a forum like this. oxymorphone is opana, waaay stronger than percodan. you are gonna kill someone!
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Jn2013 Says:
You will not go into withdrawal by taking perc 16 hours after sub. It's actually the other way around. U can possible go into withdrawal if u take sub to soon after other opiates. But since u were taking sub for 5-6 days already and your only taking a couple of perc. Prolly nothing at all will happen. U will prolly not feel much from the perc anyway, and when u get back on sub, u will not go into withdrawal from only one day of using 2 percs. Your really just wasting your percs. Wait another day or so , so u can actually feel something .
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wtf215 Says:
So if ive been taking like 6 mgs of the orange strips for ive or take 6 days and its been 16 hrs since i last took sub i can take 2 perc 10's and not worry about going into that withdrawl ?
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Pookie64 Says:
I have the same fear. What if I had some kind of an accident where I needed pain relief? Three days is a really long time to wait for a painkiller to work. My Dr. let me try the buprenorphine without the naloxone. I complained because it dissolves slower and tasted even worse than the suboxone but now if that what I am hearing is correct I think I had better revisit that idea. When I started the suboxone program I had to be off all narcotics for a min of 48hrs. I was in the clinic for hours as they monitored how I was feeling to figure what dosage was correct for me. I now take the suboxone for migraine pain. It has cut my chronic migraine down at least 75% so its very worth it for me. I recently searched the internet and found 2mg bupernorphine for $1 ea. ($30) for shipping and no Dr script involved. Best of luck to you.
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Toni Says:
Oxymorophne is exactly the same as percodan. As far as Subutex blocking all your receptors so you won't feel anything, is not true. It has a much higher Mu receptor...than any other opuiod/opiate, and a much lower endorphin...Therefore, it works well, in conjunction with a pain reliever, such as oxy's , dilaudid, morophine, codeine, and yes H. Only when it contains nalexone , as in subOXONE, does it cause precipitave withdrawl, if addicted to narcs. Or block the effect of opiates .I know from years of expierence.
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Pookie64 Says:
To my understanding, (as a 5yr Suboxone user) if you take your recommended dose every day of suboxone NO narcotic will have ANY effect on you. It takes minimally 3 days off them to feel the effect of a narcotic, and BELIEVE me when I started the program and asked my doc, "so what would happen if I took five perks or oxys while im on this suboxone?" His reply "it (the narcotics) will have little to no effect on you". So naturally I had to see for myself and took just that, 5 or 6 percs. And...... NOTHING, and I mean absolutely no buzz no nothing but a waste of a perfectly good would be high lol!! I have never heard of a Dr prescribing both to use together unless it was for some kind of "placebo" mind "thing" (in place of the four letter word I really wanted to use there lol)
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