Taking Subutex And Percocet Together (Page 28)
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My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a percocet. I usually take 15 mg percocet at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?

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I have been taking Percocet and clonzopam for years. I tried a suboxone to see how it would do for me. could one subuxone strip have resulted in a negative urine analysis with my pain management doctor which got me dismissed altogether

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No, genius, that is incorrect. I was on Subutex while I.was pregnant and the reason they switch you from Suboxone to Subutex is because they don't / knoe the effects of Naloxone on an unborn baby. You still get no pain meds because they don't WORK if you have Subutex AKA bupe on your receptors. It's a drug that was designed to bind much stronger to your receptors than full antagonist opiates. To be much longer lasting. The.Naloxone is rendered useless in Suboxone unless you try to melt it down first. If taken correctly and sublingually, the Naloxone is not absorbed and is burned away by your stomach acid. Please know what the hell you're talking about before you go blabbering nonsense like this to other people who actually need the advice!

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Alright, I'm clearing this up right now! How can Bupe (subutex) knock off previous short acting opiates from your receptors when Bupe has been used for a long time in other countries for severe pain? just like every other opiate? Bupe has been around for years, LONG before it was approved by the FDA to combat opioid addiction. Only difference between Buperenorphine and most other opiates is it's life. Naloxone or the brand name Narcan is what knocks other opiates from your receptors. Suboxone is Bupe AND Naloxone. Naloxone ALONE is used for opiate overdose, they use this drug a lot for H addicts. It automatically counteracts the effects of opiates to bring the person out of an overdose. When Suboxone is used daily, the Naloxone coats the receptors preventing other opiates from getting in, rendering its effects in the brain. You really can only get so high from the Bupe in Suboxone before you reach what many reffer to as the 'ceiling effect'. SUBUTEX does not contain Naloxone, therefore you should be fine. Subutex is also prescribed to pregnant women so when they do go into labor, if needed, can take doctor ordered pain meds. When in outpatient therapy, a man in my group had to be put in the hospital for surgery on his knee. A week before his surgery, was switched from Suboxone to Subutex so he would be able to take pain meds and may also feel its effects. As of taking an opiate BEFORE taking Subutex, I have done this NUMEROUS times and nothing bad has ever happened to me, nor have I had any reason to believe this to be true. Take care!

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Just my own experience but before I got on an actual Suboxone program I was taking every pain killer I could find. Sometimes 15 perks and a couple methadone or oxys a day. When I took a Suboxone with them I literally stayed "high" for two straight days with no sign of withdrawal. Once I actually entered the program and was required to be off ALL the opiates for 48hrs the Suboxone took away all the withdrawal and has been my lifeline for the past 4yrs. I did try one time early on to take 6 perks just to see if my Dr was truthful when he said they would have little to no effect while talking the Suboxone daily. Sure enough, nothing, and that was my last painkiller. The Suboxone has cut my migraines by about 80%. THAT I can live with. Definitely a miracle for someone who suffered from headaches daily for 16yrs.

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There is a reason why the Dr. gave you you Subutex w/percs.
These people dont know what they are talking about. the specific reason why subutex was given to you with an opiate. That is what they where designed for.
U can take an opiate the dr.s give it to patients during surgery and the use of opiates pain killers or after surgery.
It does not hut you these were designed to take them you are w/opiates.

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I took a perc 15mg about 4 hours ago and was wondering if taking my 8mg subutex would put me into withdrawls can anyone help me out with this question?

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Wrong. You're misinformed. The bupenorphine is what attaches to your opiate receptors, not allowing any other opiate to attach because the bupe is so strong. Bupenorphine is in Suboxone along with naloxone, which is what will send you into withdrawals if you try to abuse it. Otherwise it doesn't work because it's taken sublingually and swallowed. Subutex is just as effective as blocking opiates as Suboxone because it is the same thing, just no naloxone, which makes no difference unless you inject a strip. Ask a doctor. e

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I'm on heroin. I use about a half gram daily and the other night I said I'm done and waited about 3 hours and did a half a subutex. I usually can do that much no problem. Well I went into immediate withdrawls and I felt like I was dying I will never do a subutex again. You can not do that I don't care what Anybody says they are full of it or are just making up how much they do wether it's h or sub. The only way you can feel better is wait it out with time I did it at 10 pm and at aroun 1 am I did a shot of h and felt better not high and then I did some more around 11 but was still sick before I did it. I am just now feeling normal at 8 pm but not fully and I've been doing dope all day. Good luck.

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You guys dot know what the hell you are talkin about!!!! You can take ANY damn opiate (Percocet, Vicodin, methadone) ANYTHING after you take a subutex and still feel it just as if a person that didn't take subtex feels it!!! The main ingredient (can't spell it)lol does not have any effect on it. It's the SUBOXONE that has an opiate blocker which means you CAN'T abuse the actual suboxone itself. You can STILL take a Percocet or whatever and STILL feel it!!! The naloxoe in tr suboxone is there to make sure the person doesn't abuse that drug. I have been on it for 4 years and know everything you need to know about both of them and any pill out there!

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it's because Tramadol (Ultram) works on the Norpenephrine and Seratonin part of your neurotransmitters, Much like an Anti-Depressant.
Tramadol changes the way you experience pain..
Trammies are nice with subutex!~

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They are all lost you CAN take perc with subutex u WILL NOT B SICK. IVE BEEN TAKING SUBUTEX AN SUBOXONE FOR YEARS IVE DONE SUBUTEX THEN 5 HRS LATER DID A HALF STRIP OF SUBOXONE AND DIDNT GET SICK... ITS ALL IN UR HEAD

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this is the most insane thing I've ever read. and this doctor, the one who prescribed u Percocet along with subutex has hopefully had his license revoked since. horrible withdrawal, doc didn't mention that? hopefully u didn't do that? I could not imagine.

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Okay no, HERE'S the best answer. If you take a real opiate after Subutex OR Suboxone, depending on your dependence on the bupenorphine AKA subutex, one of two things will happen. If you've been using the bupenorphine for a long time, months or longer, basically nothing will happen. You won't feel much if anything at all from the opiate. Now if you've only been taking the bupenorphine AKA subutex for a few days and recreationally and then take an opiate, you'll feel it more than most likely. Where it gets bad is the opposite way around. Again, also depending on how long you've been using subutex. If you take subutex within 24-36 hours of your last use of opiates and you were a fairly heavy user, paws or pre anticipated withdrawal syndrome will kick in and you will want to die right there.

Moral of the story, take opiate after bupenorphine, doesn't really matter. Take bupenorphine after opiate, and you're screwed.

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u can take opiates with Subutex...Hell when I was in labor I was given pain shots and didnt go into w/d..Migranes can be induced by opiates, they also have great migrane pills that arent opiates that work WAYYYYYY better...I cant remember the name off hand of what I used to take for them, but it worked amamzing ! try that route ur dr will let you know all the non opiates for migranes...

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****Best Answer***** Here is the best answer to the original question... Swim had 2 8mg Subutex and over the course of 6 days swim took them nasally, the last bit Swim took at 11 30 pm on day 6 .. On the seventh day Swim had no more Subutex, but Swim did have 2 Rox 30s... So Swim decided to smell half of one of the 30s around 2 pm, Swim did not feel much (which would be the case if Swim had not been using Subutex) So Swim ate Lunch and about 30 minutes after the first smell, Swim decided he was not feeling any worse, if anything Swim was feeling a little better. So Swim smelled the other half... 5 minutes later, Swim was Swimming in a pool of Euphoria and Swimming just fine, didn't even need his Swimmies to float. Swim guinea pigged himself for this specific question and Swim came out like Michael Phelps. Yes you can go swimming after Subutex, Just make sure you wait over 12 hours or a little more before Swimming. Swim Out!

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I only waited 10 hours after taking 80 mgs of percocet to take a 8 mg subutex. I didn't go into withdrawals. Good luck to you. I feel great, by the way.

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You can take them together. I have documentation explaining it. Your doc is correct. Sometimes it will take about 3 times the dose of the perc to bump the sub off the receptor.

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alright Im outta subutex 2 x 8mg /day and starting to get the flush hot cold feeling can I have hrdrocodone 5mg?? its been almost 36 hrs I kno im not gonna feel it but I dnt wanna even start getting sick.

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Sorry,misspelling...it's seboxone then naltrexone.....thanks

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Can subutex be taken with Coumadin ? Please can someone help out with this as my husband just got out of the hospital for pulmonary embolism and deep vein thrombosis after three months between señor one ans naltrexone... Was also curious as to if these meds can cause these ailments...thanks so much for your help in advance :).

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