Doctors Willing To Prescribe Pain Medication (Page 160)

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Cjwalk,

If your appt was 11-3-2015, you were written a script for oxycodone, 30 day supply, you'll need to see your Dr again before the 30 day supply runs out. When your Dr writes you a script for oxycodone, whether is the 2nd,3rd,4th time, that isn't considered a "refill" so to speak. Legally, controlled substances such as oxycodone can't be "refilled". You must have a new written script from your doctor to take to the pharmacy. Call the draw office ask for a written prescription you can pick up and take to the pharmacy. Good luck to you!

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P450, some pain management drs decide that they want their patients to have a PCP/GP but not all pain drs or specialists require it. You do need a copy of your medical records from your previous or current drs proving that you have a condition that needs pain management. But that doesn't mean that you have to currently be under the care of a PCP/GP. Some insurance companies do require a PCP for referrals, but not all of them do.

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Chris,

I think you need to have the same empathy we deserve for this physician. If you got P450 evaluations you might be rapid however, most are not. Dr. Famous only had 2 out of 300 and he only takes rare near death cases that were my category; this category I am in will end up being northern European women as well.

Clearly this physician has been taken for a ride by those who have sold medications. I try to explain for I've been on the stand for several top pain specialists as a professional witness. Any physician giving the excuse of you have not been seen or filled does NOT WANT to write or pick up additional patients who are only pain management.

If you've read my explanation which is current the physician in Houston who wrote me 15 of the 100mcg/hour Duragesic in early September and who does not write these medications FIRST visit was called by the insurer/employer and obtained the names of the referrals he gave me. I had been in contact, faxed records and did expect appointments with several. After the drive to Houston to be told no treatment I called his office back to find out this c**** called all the referrals. Several months work in the toilet.

It is important now to tread lightly. One cannot regress to what you did get you must be open to treatment to stay alive until this all comes to pass. I could tell by the GP who now is mine I am established praise God that established experienced physicians are not taking the FDA suggestion seriously. Most are continuing to treat who they want to treat. I do not think this GP will leave me hanging; originally it was to be a referral. When my heart told me ask him because a holiday is coming up, and we all know even referrals are taking time I just did. I made it clear that I'd call if no call back in a few days from the PM.

With the GP it is clear one can then if in bad shape be admitted to a hospital and given relief. This is all Obamacare. Since posting here I know I've attained at least 20 people getting care. I need them to come back and post so I can start a new book.

I would get more specific but as you know I am being followed. These people attempted to kill me using a physician.

You need if you can walk to get out of the wheelchair. I have seen people start using appliances and go before ALJ's and lose disability. Unless a physician writes the WC there is no medical reason for using it. Trust me walking is very painful for me I am housebound, and I will not be found in a WC it is not indicated. Further as a professional will tell you once you are so weak and have so much numbness you cannot walk you do NOT get more medication but less.

Florida is a hot spot and physicians there write their own rules and it does not matter if they wrote you this or that last year they might never do this again. The old medication should have been out of your body especially just one pill in 24 hours. It would not have shown up 72 hours after ingestion and not unless they sent your UA out to Tennessee for specialized evaluations in fact more specific then the expensive specific. I think you were told that to check your reaction and you reacted. That will get you fired.

If I know I've had a potential appointment I put out my dress clothes several days in advance. I put any records I am carrying in the car two days in advance. The car is checked for gas and all else a day before because if I must drive alone say to Houston on this amount of medication it is a risk and painful.

I normally burn myself I use the PT heating pads that go in the microwave that is the only deep heat you can get and I use 2 large in the lumbar spine. I have third degree burns all over from these my pain is so suicidal right now. Yes it causes the patches to work harder and faster but my metabolism needs it they are useless to me in 24 hours done with unfortunately people think oh you will never get 600 mcg/hour a day again really that is what is necessary with liquid oxycodone. They did not even have the oxycodone sln. I take in their body but I have plenty of that for now it is 500 mg/5 ml I use grape juice to mix in. This gave me my first pain free 'hour' in over 15 years of pain thanks to Dr. Famous. But do we write this type drug for regular pain patients no because most will become highly tolerant and it works instantly meaning you can kill yourself on this quite fast. You will see it bedside of the dying administered by some family member ever so sparsely for they are terrified of killing someone who is waiting to die...

Pills do not work for me other then regular pills which do not address pain. In addition to this I had Dilaudid 8 mg., Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, and back when it was regular contin Oxycontin, and also liquid morphine.

IVP morphine in house works quite well for me but when they tried MS Contin I went to sleep for 15 minutes woke up and nothing years before I was evaluated for this P450 DNA issue.

These physicians don't want to be attacked or set up by the DEA paying the million dollar fine that is not returned when found innocent; they have families and going to prison is not why they treat you for pain ok? Their malpractice insurance for treating pain is sky high so most do not pay for hospital privileges unless you are seeing an anesthesiologist for he makes money on his surgeries. They are people they must protect themselves and each patient including the majority who do NOT QUALIFY FOR pain management. That is correct they are handling a business setting and know that most that walk in are going to be crawling if they cancel an appointment and do not get a fill, within a month they will be tolerant, crawling, wasting nurse hours, and some will be done with their 30 days the first 7 days for they are addicts end of story.

People in intractable pain won't feel high off medication they will perhaps get enough relief to function on some level. At no time will they feel euphoria, but perhaps they may sleep now an hour or two at a time. You have to wonder why it is so f***ing important that we bother at this point in time-between forced shortages being controlled by the government, the FDA advertising overdoses which are 99% those NOT prescribed OUR medication, etc. Why not arrest the pain patients selling medication they are the real murderers. Why not arrest parents who leave medications unlocked in the house for teen agers to die from. Why not arrest anyone who invites addicts in their home where medication is stolen. Really is it. As I've said before one of the top excuses we hear is 'it fell down the toilet' really really...Who in their right mind takes an open bottle of pills by the toilet and then sits on the s***ter and spills them all between their legs. The minute you hear that you flag a patient. Further if your medication was stolen where from. You file a police report and chances are you won't get them replaced but you better hope your doctor trusts you for leaving them anywhere a person can take them and potentially die. Pain patients in most cases use up the medication, increase it because they are still in pain then LIE to the very physician they want to TRUST them this is not realistic. This is not on the physicians it is on us and those who as a group say they have intractable pain. In my time posting here I've spoken to maybe 10 people tops I would write referrals for. I've diagnosed over 50 cases of RSD now called CRPS and physicians have followed through with giving the diagnosis and as we all know this disorder is researched 88 x worse pain then end stage cancer pain. I know what I know and do have respect. This whole deal about not seeing a physician for a few months dumping your potential care is a LIE. They want you or not.

They don't want pity pot, whining, unclean, scruffy, uneducated to their disease, threatening, complaining of how s***ty the last doctor was, etc. Treat them with the respect we expect them to give us. Get out your Sunday best, look them in the eyes, and ultimately do not lie. I hate giving away trade secrets but I got the biggest laugh the first time I saw Dr. Famous he got me in before Christmas 2010 for it was emergent. I am sitting in a room on the table awaiting his examination. He had two doctors training in his pain clinic along with him, no problem for me...Suddenly it's pitch black and dark and out comes his tiny pen light.

'Look straight ahead at me. Good. Close your eyes. Good. Open.'

Make sure my friends if you tell the physician you ran out of opioids two months ago you do not lie if you had kept enough each day to get something in you tell them the truth. A drug panel will tell him if you have opioids in your body clearly...

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You can refill oxycodone 28 days after filling the original script, but most doctors write for 30 days. You need to see the doctor that wrote you the script to obtain another hard copy, as oxycodone is a Class II medicine and therefore cannot have refills.

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geeyeff, a Refill is when you get a prescription and the dr writes how many times you can get that prescription filled again. Getting a new prescription is Not a refill, it is a New Prescription. Schedule II meds Cannot be refilled. But, your dr can write you a new prescription. Most pain meds presriptions are for 30 days so most drs won't give a patient a new prescription until 2-3 days Before the other prescription is to run out, some dr won't do it until the day before. Insurance compaines also have their rules about how soon they will do refills for Schedule II meds.

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BL, I believe that it what I said when I mentioned that she would have to go to Dr. to receive another hard copy. I am on a 28 day rotation w my Dr. & my insurance Co will fill 5 days early. However the pharmacy has a 2 day early policy. Thanks for the reply.

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Dr's will fill it it more than 3 days early... Its to difficult to get a SECOND script thats early and filled these days.. 1st, u cant go to same place. 2nd, the ins will tell the next pharm that its to early. 3rd. u cant get past #2 . 4. UNLESS, u bring it somewhere else and say that you donthave ins. 5. No pharmacist is going to fill a schedule 2 from a person who claims they have no ins without checking the database. Which is in ALL pharmacies now... Even the ma and pa's....

HOWEVER, if you plan for the day that this MAY occur. You bring your script to mom an pa place sometimes. Then one day you bring the script to the. Tell them you don't have any ins anymore.. I'd say youre at 50% then... Man, I tell you guys everything... Do you have the drive to do it ? If you do, then why not get that script like 15 days early ? then u'll be feelin Niiiiiiiiice. Be like me.. Have THREE addy scripts rollin.. 2 scripts youre stuffin your mouth with. and the 3rd youre slingin... "yea ok, you got three 30milli 60 quanity scripts from one dr. Yea ooooook" I did. He no longer prescribes for me. He no longer prescribes for anyone.. He also never made a dime from anyone . "dopey-ness" was his downfall....... Funny thing is, no one will read this and actually believe it...

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Adderall Emperor, pharmacists are required to check the PMP databases if a person has insurance or not. Most, if not all states now require drs to check the PMP database before writing a Schedule II prescription.

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Chris,

The same thing happened to my b/f when he went to a pain specialist & she claimed there was no opana ER in his system. Said she tested it twice. What I realized is that they're using the old strip tests that aren't coded to detect opana. You need to get a copy of the U/A results and point out to your Dr. that the test was outdated. You can find info online about the outdated strip tests to back up your claim. And NO- you cannot have any meds that are not being prescribed by your GP in a U/A. It is a violation of the Opioid Contract and is grounds for immediate discharge from the practice. I hope the info I provided you helps smooth things over with that negative test. Good luck and let me know how you made out.

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P450, I'd be honored to get in touch with you, whether about a book, your legal oddysey & any future legal wars, or anything else. Having a J.D., I must of course add the disclaimer that I can't provide "legal advice" because my license lapsed due to doctor-caused poverty preventing me from paying the regulated extortion of high dollar CLE requirements needed to keep license. Plus I was only licensed in Indiana (State & IN Federal Southern District) ... for about 15 yrs. But I've done litigation & regulatory work at state & fed. levels, am a crack legal researcher & writer, and even worked as a state gov't. atty. for a yr, daily practicing in the Family Court of a judge who's now IN Supreme Ct.'s newest Chief Justice. Still, all the disclaimer really means in nutshell is I can't charge for advice or officially represent anyone in court matters. What I do for free, making such disclosure, is my business.

My Neuro visit went better than planned, though it in part exemplified a troubling issue being here discussed. He said he'd told CVS he wouldn't write pain scripts for me anymore, tho he is in fact doing it again. But no matter how acute, for future dental pain treatment, my dentist has to call him with her recommendation which he "has" to be the one to call in (tho CVS won't fill I bet you all $).

I forgot to mention to him that CVS won't fill such a script unless he writes it with whatever excruciating detail f******* CVS requires since he will have already written one for "30 days". (Maybe ask for dif equiv pain med? CVS staff calls them "refills" that trigger their draconian Dr.-blocking even tho they are never refills, but new scripts. CVS Policy trumps logic, medicine as science, and medical reality EVEN IF RX FROM SAME DOCTOR. It happened before, in another context. Fascists. I bet you they'll even object to a neuro rx'ing for dental pain. Seriously. They suck. (I can say that, right?)

Point being, if I want dental health, I'll be in another unconscionable Catch-22, one of the MANY paradoxes in the War on Patients, designed to ruin legitimate patients, among other things by reducing med supply & access (increasing gatekeepers: dr., 2d dr., and monopoly chain pharmacies' Policies, which give pharmacists no leeway to allow meds even where common sense reveals an unanticipated issue [still have leeway to block meds for any reason]) which keeps the international black market alive in order to justify the massive $ both states & fed gov't gets (private-owned prisons too in this "land of the free" w/ more prisoners per capita than all other countries... which countries, coincidentally?, don't spearhead the international war on drugs game) ... was saying, the $ gov. gets to maintain the illusive war on both drugs & selected God-created plants. Even Kratom has been criminalized in backwater IN, though it was a promising aid for patients decreasing medicine & for quitting-addicts to make withdrawal possible. Oh, and in IN, they use a SIXTY not 120 mg rule. If my sons weren't here I'd escape to civilization.

Anyway: Neuro's pain contract differs from State's. States model form only required the notification, which I gave. His requires I not "accept" scheduled meds from any but him, unless in hospital. (Never mind that, as he admitted, my PDoc Rx's S2 meds, AND that I didn't "accept a medication"--I accepted a piece of paper & gave it to CVS who wouldn't fill: there was never any med for me to accept. The contract provision is in a list of alternate, overlapping provisions headed by "For Example", which he was obviously supposed to choose or tailor as desired but didn't. Asked what it means then, he shrugs. Passes buck to State (tho not using their form). In practice, thus, it means what he thinks it means, unless challenged administratively.

Still, he was cool about it, waffling on whether it was Officially Broken & implying we consider it as a new one. Or continue with him prescribing as long as any pain meds go thru him. Didn't seem to care about defining the relationship. My recording app got stopped 2/3ds into it, but I'll keep & compare with future visits.

He did throw me an unexpected curveball, which I now wonder if it was a trap. While shrugging off his duty & passing buck to State, he also at least thankfully lamented government's meddling in medicine AND mentioned he had a colleague in the same practice downtown who said he'd write any meds for any of neuro's active patients... if neuro was DEA-spooked I guess. Pregnant pause. So: was that to see if I'd request this?? This neuro's minimal, far-below limits rx'ing barely enables me & I have requested a move closer to my prior, effective amount--he has cost me two jobs, via low dosage & his non-responsiveness, even in crisis times, if I'm not In His Face. So was he offering? Or was it a textbook "drug-seeker" evaluation? (Dunno why he'd do that, as I'm pretty sure he knows I'm not a recreational faker for a number of reasons.) I don't know the answer.

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p450

I'm just wondering may be a stupid question, I live in New Jersey but I'm not far from philly. Would it be an issue if I had to go out of state for pain management?

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If you have ins. As far as i know it should be ook as i live in nj also but i have a great pm doc in deptford. Good luck

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Jewels, there are no laws that say a chronic pain patient can't be treated by a dr in a state they don't live in. But, you may or may not have a problem getting a prescription filled for a Schedule II. Often the pharmacys in the visiting state don't want to fill it becasue you don't live there and often the pharmacys in the state you live in don't want to fill the prescriptions because the dr isn't located in your home state. Pharmacys can legally fill these prescriptions, but if they don't want to there isn't anything that you can do. Schedule II prescriptions that you get filled in New Jersey or Pennsylvania can be viewed by pharmacists and drs in both states.

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Jewels, Posters,

I am sorry to be remiss have a great GP and now the a**holes are trying not to pay the patches. I already have won again in court, and they are illegally blocking my prescription card.

You can go out of state. I had to go to California and still would be there if my employer/insurer on comp did not lie to Dr. Famous. I thank BL for confirming another out of stater continues on high level opioids there.

You are fine going to PA from NJ and each state has different rules. You can handle this by mail order if necessary. So that way it is shipped to you when you find a mail order that works they handle 50 states.

Now my normal shipper is Philadelphia since in Texas you cannot fill from another state but Jersey and Philadelphia should work. When a patient comes in from another state the best thing is to use the local pharmacy in the state you are seeing the physician, they will fill you.

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Chronic,

I'm in the middle of s*** right now.

If you have a narcotic fill it anywhere else, for instance a hospital pharmacy, another pharmacy.

Ask him about the other physician by stating I have no quality of life, this is bordering on no life so is this your suggestion as you've noted other patients requiring pain management sir and you are managing pain; a physiologic issue due to the disabling headaches and apparent chronic need to be so relieved.

Dress professionally, look him in the eyes and state you understand his side of this issue but you need the best suggestion for excellent care in managing the pain. Keep it simple.

We will you and I for I can die if they do not fill the medication the GP referred me to a PM no word then found out the insurer called which I allowed but lied this husband and wife do not do comp but I am a professional RN in the community so they will for me and the office manager told them for I bet you they stated oh I'm new need an appt. for WC and they were told no they only do MVA so this i**** puff of smoke new adjuster wrote the Judicial that he was treating me for a MVA!!! I went right down there and a letter was written to the letter but puff of smoke red haired doo doo boy who I mock for he's a roaring a**hole, what more can I say was pretending he was out of the office which I tripped them all up on email. Already Judicial sees this as yet a new hearing if so it will be immediate and approved and I will go to J and J and get this med free and tell them why J and J will sue them to the wall for I've been on the patch for close to 20 years.

I am quite sure there are those here from the employer as of late I have allowed exchange with a few people for one if a poster is a physician and does not reach out to help me with my records then they are NOT a physician and a few others who suddenly state they are long term but don't know much about the purported meds they were on which suddenly makes me gag when I do my own support groups which are private and I stopped doing when one of my kids died a few years ago and Dr. Famous told me it was too much to do well I'm done.

That's what to do.

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Posters,

This is so easy for God's sake!

Sit with the physician and you figure out for 35 days for example and when he writes he writes 1 to 2 rather than 1 per six hours. That allows a few extra on pills and or patches that is ALL SIMPLE.

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Chronic,

I need a Medical Malpractice Attorney for the IME who tried to kill me. I do not give specifics on here. Let's say in the DC, Maryland, Virginia, NC areas.

That f***** is going to rue the day he said he was neuro testing when I had to fly 1,800 miles back here and reversed opioids in my system LEGALLY which were primarily LA so by the time I got to Houston begin vomiting blood, bile and the driver and EMT called the c**** who said 'dump her no hospital' and I was forced to lay puking on a metal floor in this smelly s*** van for 110 miles, my guts turned inside out.

It's all criminal but the a**hole was told this so called DR that my fiance was on my 2nd line and we had the whole thing taped. The trick from hell is going down.

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P450- Just a quick note for your info-add another out-of-stater to Dr. Famous' list of current patients receiving care from him. (She is in Alabama & did much via mail to acquire his services but after about 3 mos. was given appointment & she is also high dose opioid necessity).

And yes am sure the PM dr. prob been fooled previously by abusers so do have empathy for these drs., however this PM should not BE a dr.-her reviews on Vitals explain clearly-I never reacted to her (you have two drs. mixed up) because she gave blood work which showed zero opana, she not show oxycodone in it since was none it was the next dr. who had cheap bad U/A's showing oxycodone, after I had taken one oxycontin 40mg 2 weeks earlier that was my old script. But that another story-my beef with blood works is as Dr. Famous has written in his articles here online if blood work is given the serum will show zero if fast metabolizer even if dose taken only 1-2 hrs before evaluation. U/A will show but not blood work. The fact she treated me as though I was not taking meds & SELLING THEM was where I became enraged & then realized how ignorant of her to be saying that to a person in VERY OBVIOUS PAIN.... Instead of losing it (even tho felt like crying uncontrollably) I just looked at her stating how I came to her for help with my pain-nothing else & her evaluations should be re-done or take more blood & send to better lab. After she realized I could not afford the pump she offered she no longer would see me. (I wasn't planning on going back because she was my 1st attempt finding a new dr.) Where trouble became more evident was her telling her husband my case then her husband telling my brother that I was perceived to be a dealer by his wife. Now her husband a dr. in same group for my brother. Hippa Act violation - yes! I do wish to say always have dressed, acted, & put best possible foot forward @ appts. just because am in agony never has driven desire to be best can be, Not my 1st rodeo been painer 15yrs & know looking pitiful even when you feel it only comes off as not respectful to dr. I, too spend much time preparing for appt-setting up vehicle, gathering & organizing all paperwork, outfit awaiting ,even hair wash done correct time for best styling! Idk maybe my vanity to look good even at near-death?? My journal written was 15 yr. summary/history leading to my present conditions & included my self-tapering which increased pain levels each taper but that I was aware new laws therefore willing to work with dr. accordingly. I felt that statement was best thing I did to get me the appt & treatment. He made clear DEA was imp. in the clinic's practices.

Believe me I WOULD get outta WC if possible however my bones have morphed so that it is not muscles being problem but skeleton will not allow standing -my bottom half of leg turns right then knee cap moved locked so cannot change that & top half leg where should be. Is like on stilts broken in middle then bottom bent so not straight enough line to prop me up-no way to stand let alone walk on because cannot balance by any stretch. NO surgeon touch me due to brittle extreme fragility of what left of my bone structure. God knows I have tried finding brave surgeon because always was intention to at very least get back to my 3 prong walker which was so handy. My broken arms are scaring me to death from pain & fear of consequences of grinding the breaks all day each day. I am at mercy of bone medicine working to halt density disappearing-none have yet since 2000!! geeyeff-thanks-am sure new PM dr.'s diagnostics must have been the old cheap type not showing opana er since I had more comprehensive evaluations done by a lab-just got results showing oxymorphone/oxycodone positive (how reads on results), then oxycodone (alone) negative, then oxymorphone showing the amount in my body which bad PM dr. said I had zero (was actually >3000). You misunderstood guess about other meds & primary dr? Never had any issue but the zero amount from blood work, then the oxycodone showing up in a U/A., which my more thorough lab results explain all. Sorry long when meant quick-my thinking still well below par & when able to type I go for it since rare opportunity. Heaven knows am praying, sending beneficial thought waves to Universe for you & our angel on earth nurse P450........for us ALL.

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if anyone knows of a doctor that will help with severe back problems in or around close to the Ruston,La. area please let me know.

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Chris, what proof do you have that the dr you saw said anything to your brother about you being a dealer ? When you fill out the new patient paperwork, how carefully did you read it ? Very few people will take the time to read Everything Before they sign it. Especially when they are in pain. But part of the standard new patient paperwork is you giving permission for your dr to discuss your health care with other health care professionals. I've seen several of these forms where the way this is written in with other things you have to sign, you wouldn't normally pay it any attention. So most people have no clue that they have signed it.

It ia always possible that a mistake was made when processing the labs. Most drs are suspicious if you say you took meds from a previous prescription. Even though the dr can look it up in the PMP and see if you were actually give a prescription for a certain med, that doesn't mean that you had any left over. When you go a long time without being treated for chronic pain and then you tell a dr that you see for the first time that you have an old prescription, it usualy creates creditability issues. Most drs wil wonder how you managed to go so long without anything for your pain, especially if you were on high doses of pain meds before.

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