How Long After You Stop Suboxone Do You Have Withdrawal Symptoms? (Page 47)

My 63y/o mother survived chemo and radiation for throat cancer but was unable to stop the morphine 15mg twice a day without horrible withdrawal symptoms. Her MD put her on Suboxone 8mg/2mg once a day in June. She even took half the strip on most days and the doctor was very pleased and anticipated that she would be able to stop altogether in November. She unfortunately had a stroke 14 days ago and has been in the hospital. The first 7 days she was confused from the stroke but now she is weak and forgetful but is no longer disoriented. She told me tonight that she thought she needed her Suboxone. She said she thought she was going thru withdrawal. I was floored. She is not having any outward signs of withdrawal: no back/stomach pain, no nausea/vomiting, no sweating or tremors. Isn't 14 days long enough for the Suboxone to be completely out of your system and for withdrawal symptoms to have come and gone??? Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

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I thank you kindly. Is this where all these headaches come from as well? My sleep is still messed up really awful, even after a year. Do you know anything about the pins and needles sensation that I have been experiencing? I hope all of this will heal in time. A year out and I still struggle with energy and motivation. I have finally reached the point where I'm not constantly thinking about how bad I feel. I was on opiates and other drugs for many years and 8 years on Suboxone. I imagine I did a lot of damage to my brain and body. I go back and forth in my thinking on Suboxone. I am grateful that I now am clean from drugs, and I wonder if I didn't have the Suboxone if I would be clean now. It is a terrible drug taken for long term...I even started to abuse it near the end. Doctors don't know much about it. As a matter of fact, my doctor said he wished he had never put any of his patients on it. There are some of us who are able to break free but what about the others? My Daddy is 60 years old and he takes it and I worry that he wouldn't be strong enough to come off of it. At least he can witness through me that it can be done. GOD bless you

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Lissy and Tommy C- Wow, Lissy the pins and needles sensation is kind of what Tommy C and myself are referring to. It's like when you have a foot that falls asleep only you feel like that all over your whole body. Tommy C-I love how much research you have done and found out and that totally makes me see things a little more clearly because the sounds are so sharp when I have buzzing going on that I just feel like flipping out everytime I hear a loud noise or anything. It's amazing that there is a freaking reason why, thank god I am NOT crazy, but as you said Tommy the brain pain can come and go. I pray to god for you guys also to heal and that I heal as well. It really is horrible that we all are in this situation but Tommy I think it's great the good you are doing that was done from the damage. I myself am writing a self help book about all of my experiences. Please keep me in the loop. I'm going to look up Cannicaps Tommy, was wondering what they were but some of my last post was cut out.

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Tommy C

Thanks for sharing that info. It breaks it down to where most patients and layman alike can grasp the damage that can be afflicted in the name of science and most of the rest are just clueless to. God bless...

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Sorry if u take suboxone or methadone recreationally ur dumb. Opiates are what suboxone is for. Opiates reprogram your brain. Suboxone is an inhibitor. It blocks the brain receptors from dopamine. Suboxone doesn't mess your head up so if u take suboxone for different reasons than it's intention then ya it's hard to get off of, but at least u dont have to keep uping your tolorence and u wing off of it light weight. Sorry I died on street drugs and I should not be here. For 5 mins I was going to a scary place. Thank God for suboxones saved more than my life.

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Chidler: What do you mean you wing off of it lightly? Suboxone shuts down dopamine production and depending on how long you have been on Suboxone it can take two or more years to get the dopamine to start to produce. There is nothing easy to getting off of Suboxone. It is not addictive; just physically dependent. What a lawyers' play on words. I do not understand some of your post.

Lissy: I was 68 when I started my journey off Suboxone. Your dad can do it if he wants to. I was 5 yrs on OC's and 5 yrs on Suboxone. Wasted seven months weaning. If I were to recommend getting off it would be cold turkey. I had severe stomach cramps the whole time I was weaning. The fist 4 weeks are the worst but can be made very tolerable with the proper meds, food and sleep. Suboxone withdrawal is not any more painful than the other opiates, it just takes much longer to recover. Sometimes up to two to three years. Just getting your mental and physical sensitivity back makes it worth it.

I need to rebuild my strength and stamina while my brain heals if it ever does. The Parathesia (burning and tingling) may be permanent nerve fiber damage.

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Tom c, I've died for over 5 mins. First of all God sent me back. I'm just telling u after taking opiates for 10 yrs suboxones saved me. Stop listing to drs, if u dont walk the path then how can u describe it? Suboxones r addictive physically and mentally. If the mentally part wasn't there it would be easy. If u take opiates 4 yrs it's gonna take at least 2 yrs to recoup. Subs r an inhibitor, it blocks the receptors in brain and that allows u not to need the natural dopamine to flow. it kind of tricks the brain. Any other drug u take u need to increase your amount. Suboxones r not like that, u can stay on the same amount without uping your dose. 4 mgs is all u need. 2 in morning and 2 around 5-7 PM. u won't feel high but that's not what they're for. Suboxones r a cruch but it's legal and don't think like u do on opiates. it takes a couple months of slowly reducing a little at a time. I've been off them 3 mnths but couldn't stop thinking about cravings. I own my own lil house fence deck businesses. Money is my trigger. I lost everything before being homeless. I spent 50 grand in less than a yr. Some say I may need subs for the rest of my life. I don't know but I've been off opiates 2 half yrs now started on 3 suboxones a day, 24 mg. It took 1 mnth to get down to 4 mgs. I've been on that steadily, 2mgs when I wake up and 2mg around dinner. Opiates reprogram your brain. I've saved about 5 of my friends. I know what I'm talking about. Suboxones r safer and healthier than methadone. Suboxones don't make ur brain wanna chase subs. They r hard to get off of and u will go back to opiates every time u stop to soon. It's work, but worth it. Everybody's body is different and just because 1 person can do short term treatment doesn't mean the next guy can. Subs r the less evil of the two. If u abused suboxones it's harder get them prescribed. They used to prescribe me 4 8 mgs a day. I never needed more than 1. Once ur stable u can't even tell the difference. I can't tell from a whole pill to half once I slowy tapered down. I also consume cannabis. I take 4 milgrams of suboxones a day. I'm a Chicago boy. I'm so glad God has allowed me to still be alive. I shouldn't. I was dead for over 5 mins. Most people after 3 mins r brain damaged with no oxygen to their brain. It takes yrs if you've been on them for yrs. Honestly I may need at least 2 mgs for the rest of my life. I'm 40 and in shape. Working out/exercise helps. Hope this helps u a lil more to understand. God bless and don't give up.

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Thank you all for your support. I forgot to mention again that I do not have a doctor I actually buy them from someone. I don't take a full strip but pieces of it through out the day. My boyfriend is so much stronger than me but then again I really think it affected us differently. I can't imagine how he could feel this way and just be done even though at the time he worked construction. He told me he was so busy he didn't even tink about it. I feel like I need that but my mind is just set on waiting for the draining feeling to start so I know I'm about to withdraw and take a piece. Right now I work at home. That sounds totally easy to withdraw from at home but its not. I work for a Comcast call center. I get the worst customers and I have caught myself getting attitude back with them. Like right now I'm suppose to be working. I have clocked in but I'm just sitting here not logged on to the phones, filled with anxiety for the calls I'll get. I can't handle it. People treat you like you are the company and that you're nothing. With the problems I'm going through that is the LAST thing I need to hear.

June 2nd I have a doctors appointment for my depression and anxiety. The reason I haven't told a professional is because I don't want to be noted as an addict. I don't want that on my record. I don't want to be classified. I hated the word for the longest time. I never in my life have been addicted to anything. And two, I just cannot let my family know. I'm already the black sheep of the family. Yes I am a christian but I fear for their judgement. I also don't want to disappoint my mother and sister. When I was 17 I got pregnant with the same guy I'm with now (about to turn 24 june 9th) and she works for the hospital medical records. She tried to hide the fact I was pregnant she was so embarrassed by it when I went to the hospital she wouldn't tell the front nurse I was miscarrying. I haven't seen my sister who is 15 minutes away in over a year. I don't see anyone.

Anyway my boyfriend is supportive. He told me its OK if I lose my job and be without for a bit but I don't want it all on him. This job isn't for me, home or not. I feel like I'd be better out talking to people who pretend to be nice lol. What do you guys think I should do? Give up and go to a doctor and say look I'm an addict but I tried to do better but now I'm on suboxone? Or don't tell, get the depression pills and taper myself without a job for a while? Get a new job? Idk I'm really stuck. Thanks everyone.

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Tommy C - That is a frightening thought that the pins and needles could be permanent. This is the worst part for me personally because I have told you about my faith. I can hardly pray like I used to. When I get still and try to, that sensation kicks in. I will continue to post here as time goes on to keep you abreast of whether it has gone or not. The crazy thing is that we here going through this are the ones with the experience and not the doctors. I have read many posts and there isn't much info except for those going through it. Most doctors don't seem to have a clue at all. Take care my friend and please keep posting :)

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i just stopped suboxone 6 days ago and wondering when withdrawals start. I believe i am experiencing them now do to my restless legs an stomach pain. I felt like s*** the first two days an now its just annoying cause my anxiety is crazy. I could make a whole 12mg strip last a week cause i only took pieces of it.

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Erin: 7 to 14 days will get you through detox and into withdrawals. There are many forms of withdrawal and it sounds like you are starting to get them. This is a good thread so read from latest post first back about 200 posts and you will get a mountain of knowledge.

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I didn't get a replied but it came down to me putting in a resignation. I quit my job. Probably won't be on here for a while keeping my doc appointment good luck everyone.

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AMBER,

Good choice, just the relief of not working for a piranha like company (Comcast/ xfinity) alone should ease your anxiety. It sounds as if seeing the doc will legitimize YOUR path in your own eyes. EVERYONE'S journey should be validated by those closest to us. Be it here, family or friends. We ALL need to be kind to ourselves and others. God bless.

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No it's not, Suboxene is the devils drug worse than any opioids by far. It's been 9 weeks and I'm just starting to feel non suicidal, still sneezing often, still ups and downs but definitely way better than weeks ago

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Way to go Lex. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. You can do it. Isn't it amazing when the fog lifts and you can feel life again? Hope you have a beautiful and peaceful day.

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Is it possible to take suboxone and subutex at the same time? Does the naloxone in the suboxone react with the opiates in subutex?

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Please contact you Dr. If any misguided happened then it is critical for your mom.

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My doctor put me on Lexapro for my depression anxiety. Not feeling a difference yet except I have to take it at night cause it makes me extremely sleepy. I'm not very happy because I told them no citalopram and this is escitalopram.
As for stress its a lot more after quitting my job. I don't ever want to work feeling like this but I can't leave all the bills to the bf he can't afford it. Hope I get better soon I need a job

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Amberrrr, I searched back 10 pages thru February and do not see your first post. From the little bit of info I found, you're taking Suboxone, you're depressed, hated your job so you quit. You sit in the dark all day, are afraid of withdrawal & haven't told any physician about your addiction for fear of being labeled an addict. I'm very concerned your vitamin D level is low or more likely, practically non existent. You could be naturally prone to low vit D. Not getting any sunshine just making the depression soooo much worse. Please have your doc check your vitamin D level. Telling your shrink or pcp you're addicted and depressed does not mean from that day forward you must tell every single doc you meet throughout your life you are an addict. There are privacy laws in this country, young lady!

I agree with you that the Suboxone is adding to your feeling bummed out every day. That on top of your possible vitamin D deficiency, lack of social interaction & sunshine. Exercise is sooo important & gets the serotonin & adrenaline pumping.
I'd be overjoyed to live 15 minutes from my sister, however if your's is that much of a witch with a capital B then ok, don't contact her. As far as you being the family black sheep, no one is perfect & I promise that your mom & sister have their own faults, sins, insecurities etc etc. I can't help wondering if your sister could surprise you with a show of support! Please tell a doctor of all your issues, Amber. Tell the doc of your concerns of privacy. My daughter in law's name is Amber. She means the world to me. If I thought she was depressed, addicted, anxiety ridden or whatever, I'd BE there for her. None of us knows what tomorrow may bring. We're given such a short time on this earth, Amber. I hope you can begin seeing things in a better light very soon.

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3 to 4 grams of tar or powder? Dude what are you Bill gates adopted son... do you have any idea how much that would cost

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I've been through this multiple times after being on subs for over a year each time. It is hard and can make you feel insane. The last time I too prayed to God to help me out of this evil. Instead of over a month of various withdrawal symptoms, I was out of the house hanging with friends(not feeling perfect by any means), within two days. I absolutely know for a fact that it was God helping me. I didn't change anything; just prayed, and hard too. I promise it's easier than anyone thinks. The only thing is that you HAVE to want to quit. God knows our true thoughts and will come to our aide if we just ask. No one ever really says this, but God is the only way to actually overcome this horrible disease. There is but one cure. I don't mean to preach, I know addicts don't like to be told what to do. Many don't believe in God either. I'm so sorry for them. Just trust a pro; forget the various crutches, let God carry you.

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