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How To Take Suboxone At Home (Page 5)
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Sandra Says:
I have ten suboxones. I have been taking oxycontin for pain but want to try at home to w/d. I can't discuss this with my doctor as it will affect my insurance. This is a fact..in my case... Can someone on here tell me how to take my subs? I would appreciate any answers and no lectures. How many do I need to withdraw..Thanks so much.
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U will go in2 rapid detox if u have take that N8 while u have methadone on ur receptors !!!! (read #77: Sub expert, which is my post). Good luck! Prayer helps!
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Ready 2 get clean Says:
I have almost the same exact daily dose as u and i am tired of doing this everyday but very scared.. jus had 3 back surgeries an was perscribed to take 6 oxycodone 15's an 2 oxycontin 80's a day not to mention i suffer from anxiety so i take xanax to wow... i have had back problems for the last ten years an anxiety for 15 years but these pills have taken control of my life thats all i wake up for i the morning and i have kids that need there mom back so i have a sitter an some suboxine never tried them before i need some advice on how to take them i am gonna stay on the xanax only take 1mg a day so i think i am ok on that but the opiates i am so done cuz its too the point now for the last four years thatmy perscriptions dont even last me two weeks so i am ready to quit any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Bird27 Says:
I have been using heroin for about six months now. I do a big every day between me and my bf. I smoke it only. I need to know how many subs I am going to need to detox.
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theman Says:
I think you will need a little more time than 1 week to do this!8 or 10 subs is not going to do the trick,you need to build the suboxone in your system and get stable first and then taper down.Been through this a lot takes more than a few subs ans a week off work!!!!
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beantownbully Says:
u can def do that with 10 8mg subs
1st 3days are bad for me but each day gets better by day 3 im almost out of the dark not sure how much opiates u were doing the amount u were takin plays a big factor on dosage decisions my d0c was roxy30mg 10a day sometimes more.the way i do it 1st day take 8mg in am 8mg pm
2nd day 8mg am 4mg pm by day 3 u will be feeling good because the suboxones are finally built up in ur sytem u should be able to take 4mg am 4mg pm dibr guve uo on day 3 because u are gonna feel perfect no withdrawl its weird but continue tapering lower until ur done u can play with ur dosages some ppl take subs on day 1 and feel perfect wish i was one of those but im not lucky any questions hit me up ps the 1st 3 days are worst after u get passed there u pretty much out the woods but if ur feeling crappy take more the 1st 3days after the u just have to ration out the rest which wont be to bad because suboxone last 3days in ur body as for me 1st day just sux wish i could just sleep ot off
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mary Says:
I am so wanting off Suboxone, I was on methodone for about one year and before that vicodin, the doctor just kept increasing the dose, then I ran out and the doctor went on vacation, interesting, anyway, I have been purchasing subs on the street, I am 58 and I have tried to wean my self off 3 diff times with no luck, do you have any suggestions?
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joeey Says:
thank u , spice06 , I really needed to hear that remark about not beating ourself up and we do make mistakes. I have been struggling with addiction for 15 years, and have tried everything, rehabs, NA, AA, detox, medication, just to mention a few, but you are right addiction is a disease that needs to be treated everyday. What works for someone might not work for someone else. I just relapsed for the 100th time, and I just dont know anymore. I just accept that Iam an addict and never give up on myself
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Zeudai Says:
It all depends on what Suboxone you have, but if you know which one you have you can figure it out. 2mg will kill withdrawl for even the most severe addict and you will only ned to take a dose every 1.5-3 days. depends on how small of a dose you take compared to how high your tolerance is. I hurt bad after 4 hours, after 8 hours I can't function. I physically can't even go to the bathroom on my own. I shoot 6-12, 4mg dilaudid, 120mg of morphine sulphate and eat 100 mg (10pills) percocet in between shots or at work. So I figured I needed a pretty large dose of subs to get by but 2mg works for me, the first dose I took was 4mg, then every 1.5 days I take 2mg from now till I feel comfortable that i wont withdraw.
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AlexisJ Says:
Hi, Im needing some help and support. I'm 21 and I've been addicted to Norcos for 2 years, taking them every day. I was taking 10 a day, then was able to lower myself to 5 a day about a month before I detoxed. I flushed all my pills a little over a week ago an was given suboxone by a friend, to help me withdraw. I have no health insurance and each sub doctor I called was either way too expensive or they had no openings for new patients. So I took a quarter of suboxone, the orange pill, after 15 hours of withdrawal. Sub helped that day and the next day, but after that it had no effect on me and I'm wondering why? My friend who's been on it for months under a doctor's care, said its supposed to give u a little buzz and help with your cravings. But it hasn't worked for me that way, maybe I need to take more? I stopped taking it and I've been cold turkey for almost a week. I'm feeling so depressed and losing my will, Im almost at the point to start using again. Can someone please tell me when to take this suboxone or how it's supposed to be taken? I'm so frustrated and just want to stop my intense cravings, I don't want to start using again! I want to stay clean.
**Also, what is the difference between sub & methadone? Which one is right for me? Although I'd rather stick with the suboxone I have so as not to spend more money.
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donna Says:
Hello I need advice on how to kick my 700 dollar a day heroine habit I shoot the heroine and want to do this on my own at my house please any advice on home remedies ill try anything its been 16 hours since last use and OMG I feel bad email me at xxxxx@xxx {edited for privacy}
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coop Says:
Suboxone is a life saver. It will totally take away all of your withdraws, and take away the urge to use. But I will admit that you will have some withdraws coming off of suboxone but its not near as bad as what u have been through before I'm sure.
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La 25 Says:
How much of the sub do you use each day? I have 2 8 mg strips I was trying to get more though just incase ..I've done the induction before but started doing it again like an idiot but I'm sick of it so I'm ready I just don't know if 2 is enough but I def do not want to be on sub it's just another drug that's legal and they can make money off you ..I just think its good for the wd the rest is mental which I can handle ..thanks in advance for the info :)
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Reena Says:
My boyfriend is addicted to percs. He takes one 30mg pill a day and now wants to get off of them. He has 3 8mgs suboxone. Can you please direct us on how to use them so he can be drug free?
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Dan Says:
if he's only taking 30mg/day tell him to just jump. Don't even use the sub's. I was on painkillers (Oxycontin/codone) for about 7 years. Occasionally my habit would go months on end at upside of 11-1300 mg/day. I was twisted. Got on Sub's for about 2 1/2 years after. Originally thought they were a "miracle pill" like everyone else. Then I had to kick the Sub's. You have NO idea what an opiate kick is until you've tried to kick Suboxone. At 24mg/day, well, I just had no idea. Made a methadone kick seem like a walk in the park. On day 88 I was still at roughly 80% of a full blown opiate kick. Puking, runs, whole 9yards. On day 89 I decided I was either going to wrap my mouth around a rifle or get high, but I was NOT going to feel that way any longer. Well, needless to say, the latter was what wound up happening. I guess my point is: Be careful with the Sub's. Short term they are great for titration. DO NOT let anyone talk you into any type of long-term (read:over 10days) usage. Little known fact is that Suboxone/Subutex (Buprenorphine) is an opiate TOO. ALL opiates come with a pricetag. Don't think you are going to get off scott-free. Used correctly however, Sub's can really minimize the effects of a "kick" when used in conjunction with vitamins and supplements. 4 or so 8mg tabs/strips has been more than sufficient to bring me off a 1000+ mg/day bender. You should also learn what the "half-life" of a medication means and know the effective half-life of your med's. (oxy=3.5 whereas Bup. =39.5, or so) I will also tell you to be honest with yourself. If you're just using them to "fill a dry spell" then you would be better served with Loperamide. Sub's are better used for actual detox. Again, DO NOT TAKE FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT ANYONE TELLS YOU. I was told a plethora of lies too. I have kicked opes more times than even I can count, alcohol(saw spiders-baaad), speed(meth), coke, and benzo's(almost died-baaad) and NONE of it even came CLOSE to the misery of a Suboxone kick. I had to get really fancy to get my life back. Another story for another time. Start with 4-6mg. That should be enough to get ya feelin' better. WAIT 'til you start feeling crappy. I have done the precipitated withdrawal thing twice also. That is brought about by taking the Sub's too soon. Put me in the hospital once. No fun. I THOUGHT (the mind is powerful) I was feeling bad so I took the Sub. Well, it was just the "lack 'o' dope blues" making me think I felt crappy. Wait until you've actually got the watery eyes/sneezes/brillo-in-the-throat, shaky symptoms. Place 4mg under the tongue and relax. In 45minutes or so you'll feel like a million bucks. that night take 2mg before bed. Same the next day but cut dosages in half. Continue, cutting dosage in half each day, and on day 5or6 just jump. There will be mild discomfort on day 2 or 3 totally clean. It will take 2-3 days for the Sub's to completely quit working/exit your system (that half-life thing) and those days, 3 and 4 will be the worst. Gabapentin really helps me on those days as does 5htp for the depression. Hope this helps, and your mileage may vary.
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Dan Says:
if he's only taking 30mg/day tell him to just jump. Don't even use the sub's. I was on painkillers (Oxycontin/codone) for about 7 years. Occasionally my habit would go months on end at upside of 1100-1300+ mg/day. I was twis-ted. Got on Sub's for about 2 1/2 years after. Originally thought they were a "miracle pill" like everyone else. Then I had to kick the Sub's. You have NO idea what an opiate kick is, until you've tried to kick Suboxone. At 24mg/day, well, I just had no idea. Made a methadone kick seem like a walk in the park. On day 88 I was still at roughly 80% of a full blown opiate kick. Puking, runs, whole 9yards. On day 89 I decided I was either going to wrap my mouth around a rifle or get high, but I was NOT going to feel that way any longer. Well, needless to say, the latter was what wound up happening. I guess my point is: Be careful with the Sub's. Short term they are great for titration. DO NOT let anyone talk you into any type of long-term (read:over 10days) usage. Little known fact is that Suboxone/Subutex (Buprenorphine) is an opiate TOO. ALL opiates come with a pricetag. Don't think you are going to get off scott-free. Used correctly however, Sub's can really minimize the effects of a "kick" when used in conjunction with vitamins and supplements. 4 or so 8mg tabs/strips has been more than sufficient to bring me off a 1000+ mg/day bender. You should also learn what the "half-life" of a medication means and know the effective half-life of your med's. (oxy=3.5 whereas Bup. =39.5, or so) I will also tell you to be honest with yourself. If you're just using them to "fill a dry spell" then you would be better served with Loperamide. Sub's are better used for actual detox. Again, DO NOT TAKE FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT ANYONE TELLS YOU. I was told a plethora of lies too. I have kicked opes more times than even I can count, alcohol(saw spiders-baaad), speed(meth), coke, and benzo's(almost died-baaad) and NONE of it even came CLOSE to the misery of a Suboxone kick. I had to get really fancy to get my life back. Another story for another time. Start with 4-6mg. That should be enough to get ya feelin' better. WAIT 'til you start feeling crappy. I have done the precipitated withdrawal thing twice also. That is brought about by taking the Sub's too soon. Put me in the hospital once. No fun. I THOUGHT (the mind is powerful) I was feeling bad so I took the Sub. Well, it was just the "lack 'o' dope blues" making me think I felt crappy. Wait until you've actually got the watery eyes/sneezes/brillo-in-the-throat, shaky symptoms. Place 4mg under the tongue and relax. In 45minutes or so you'll feel like a million bucks. that night take 2mg before bed. Same the next day but cut dosages in half. Continue, cutting dosage in half each day, and on day 5or6 just jump. There will be mild discomfort on day 2 or 3 totally clean. It will take 2-3 days for the Sub's to completely quit working/exit your system (that half-life thing) and those days, 3 and 4 will be the worst. Gabapentin really helps me on those days as does 5HTP for the depression. Hope this helps, and your mileage may vary.
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Dan Says:
sry 'bout the double post. Not real sure what happened there.
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sammy Says:
I am in the exac same situation i have been using about 150-200 mgs of oxy or 1 bundle a day (whatever I could get that day) for about a month and a half now. I had 4 years clean before my relapse and am done again i have exactly 2 8mg strips of suboxone as u said u did and i also want to just use those and be done can you please explain how you acomplished this?
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Jen Says:
Your going to need more then two subs. With draw lasts at least a week.
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tray Says:
I was wondering how using the subs worked for you
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twylightdancer Says:
I think everyone on this forum is kind of missing a key element to recovery. This is why so many of you have multiple detox stories about using subs to detox. Suboxone is used as a maintenance drug during your recovery so that you are able to make the needed changes in your life to cure your addiction. It's not "once an addict, always an addict.". and you don't need to live your life like that.
Go to a clinic or doctor and get a prescription, get yourself a counselor, and if it helps you go to groups. Only after taking those steps can you recover fully from the disease of addiction.
I know you all out there are desperate, I was too. Desperate to feel normal, desperate to feel healthy, and desperate to live life and truly enjoy just living.
Look at it this way:
A person eats horribly and deosnt excersize all their life. As a result they develop diabetes. However, this person sees a doctor, gets on insulin. But also this person eats healthy meals, excersizes and loses wait. After a year, or more, depending on how hard they work their doctor tells them that they dont need the insulin anymore. Are they still diabetic? The answer is no.
The same can be said about maintenance treatments. The medication is a took to make the necessary changes to cure your illness.
I still have had slip ups, even recently, its not a panacea. But, it has given me the tools I need to for the most part make the changes in my life needed to make it normal again.
I know that it definately isnt the answer for everyone, but, rushing through your recovery isnt the answer for anyone that really wants to stay clean. Its more than just the sickness, its the mental sickness that youve created through your use.
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