Dilemma With 2 Narcotic Scripts From 2 Doctors (Page 12) (Top voted first)

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Hi all. I have intractable pelvic RSD, peripheral neuropathy, lumbar facet spondylosis. I live in California and am about to have to change insurances at the end of this month. The new insurance has ridiculously high Rx prices. I go to a PM for all my pain meds, but my primary dr has in the past managed them for me. My question is if anyone knows if I get an Rx for the 60mg Oxycontin twice a day like usual from my PM and then my primary to write a script for 40mg 3 times a day and then I can go to 2 totally different pharmacies and fill one with my insurance and the other at another pharmacy and pay with cash, will that flag the DEA and cause my PM to get a notification of "Doctor shopping"? I am just trying to have enough meds to get me through an extra month until my husbands new job let's us get medical coverage?

I had to do this one other time a year ago when the same thing happened with me loosing my job because I could no longer work and I wasn't married yet to get my husbands insurance. The first 2 months I had no problem, but the third and LAST month I was needing to do it to get me enough meds to last me the 3 month waiting period, my husband forgot and filled both scripts under the same insurance but just at 2 different pharmacies instead of paying cash at the second one. My pain doctor found this out and thank God I was able to explain my way out of it and he didn't discharge me as a patient, but now in this situation again, I'm afraid to try it one last time til we are settled with yet another health insurance. I would really appreciate anyone's advise or experience they could share regarding my situation. I truly am not a doctor shopper, I am just afraid to run out of meds and be in massive pain and / or risk getting into trouble.

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Re: Brich (# 239) Expand Referenced Message

The PMP aka prescription monitoring program in your state that is connected to every pharmacy computer in every state will probably flag 2 hydrocodone prescriptions that are despenced so close to each other and then again nothing may happen, but if it does you can bet the dentist and neurologist will not prescribe narcotics to you ever again if you get flagged! They'll both say you should have told us about the others prescription. They'll cover themselves, you can bet on that as a fact if it gets flagged!
It's your life and if you weren't concerned you wouldn't be on here asking questions!
I'd say air on the side of caution, but that's me!
You and I both know that the pharmacy Nazis are out in full force, so why risk getting flagged and just be upfront. Both doctors will say they asked you if you were getting pain medications from another doctor. Whether they did or not is irrelevant because they will cover themselves like I said before. If you get flagged the doctors will burn you!
Protect yourself!

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PLEASE help me!. I've been repeatly discharged from doctors because I am on morphine and oxy. This most recent discharge states ( I am unable to fill your prescription needs or handle your complex medical needs.). Wht??? Fyi the place is called comprehensive care of Tucson. Fyi I did absolutley nothing wrong. Please help me I need a lawyer. Fyi the previous doctors all said pretty much the same thing y am I a parya?? I have had multple car accidents and my back has degenerated also I have nerve damage. Please help

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You know what I'm going to do? Print out all chats for all the forums, and post it to IU and a doctors forum called Linkden. Something has to change. No names. Also, if anyone thinks the FDA is going to pay any attention to these small-time purchases, don't fret. As a matter of fact, I think I'll purchase a large amount of a drug, just so I can get caught. A courtroom could be a good place to speak. The media would be an opportunity too. As I am old, I'm just not that scared anymore. People in pain need help. I do hope those with anxiety, panic attacks, or depression will work to overcome it. You can do it. I did. You have to be really honest, and sure, you'll be scared. Prayers,

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The info about why the dr dismissed you is in your medical records. When you see a new dr for the first time they have you sign a release form for them to get your previous medical records. You may have a hard time finding a dr to rx the same med or anything strong. It just depends on the drs.

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I got a script from my doctor. norco. and 3 day later i went to the er with the same pain he wrote me another script for the same thing. I paid for the first ones with cash can i take the script the er doctor wrote me to a different pharmacy and pay cash and will they fill it? this is not something i do all the time.

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Hey BL, I understand that but normally they won't look you up unless they have a reason. I was just wondering if this doctor can legally tell the other one? I understand they can get the information if they look it up, but normally they Won't unless they're suspicious of something. can they legally tell the other doctor? I guess there might be ways around it and let him know... I don't know. I just don't want to get cut off from my primary doctor

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is it possible to fill one 20 mg script from one doctor and a 10 mg from another doctor at the same pharmacy without cause for a redflag?

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So if you do it once you should be ok. Because We did it a few time and it did not Red Flag. But then again this was in 2012. The Systems might be updated since Prescription Narcotics is now an Epidemic problem in this country. I would say you should be fine because we did it like a said for months.

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I have a rx for percocet 5/325 that my primary care dr gives me due to having bad pain for my fibroids. He writes it for 60 pills and within the 10 days of my monthly cycle i finish my pills. Last week my sciatic nerve went out and i was seen in urgent care which they prescribed me norco 5/325. I attempted to fill it at cvs by my house and the pharmacist advised me i am not able to do so since my perocet was filled on 09/24/2015. I tried to explain that those pills are for something completely different and the way the order is written she could see that i no longer have any left due to me taking them exactly how i am supposed to take them for 10 days. she would not fill it. how can i get my norco filled by them or another pharmacy if the percocet i take is for something totally different in which i do not have any left over? PLEASE HELP. I AM IN SEVERE PAIN.

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I normally take 20mg of oxycodone twice daily but I ended up in the hospital for a uterus infection that was so bad it hurt all the way in my back and down my leg. The doctor at the hospital said for now my dose needed increased to 30mg four times daily so I have a script that I know medicaid will not cover and honestly now I'm scared to fill it because I don't want to mess up my normal script that I get monthly. ....but if I don't fill it I will run out early because I had been using my 20s and half of one to make them the 30s because I have put off trying to fill the new script from the hospital until I know I won't get into trouble. What should I do?

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BL thanks for the tips.. i have two insurances one through my husband and one through my work cvs only uses my insurance. i will try a small pharmacy by my house im in southern california. i will also look to see if it says as needed but i want to say it says every 4-6 hrs for pain i dont think it says as needed but i will look tonight thanks for all the info

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The pharmacy may fill it or they may not, it's up to them. BUT,if you have a contract with your pain management dr, or even if you don't you can be fired/discharged by your pain dr. And it will be very hard to find another pain dr or dr that will rx you pain meds, if you can find one at all.

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Hi, i have been in pm now for almost two yrs. I am 26 and was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease. I have been on norco 7.5/mg 3x a day for over a yr and was recently upped to 4x aday. I have always taken my meds right and never ran out early. Last december i had uterine prolapse and had to undergo a hysterectomy. My ob gyn and pm doc were both notified about all my scripts and my ob prescribed me percasets with one refill. So i took them for two months while also taking the 5mg norco my pm prescribed me. At my pm appt we talked bout how the percasets were constipating me and other things. I have always passed all of my u.a's and my pill counts. Now last monday i had two broken molars extracted, and notified the dentist that i was in pm and on norco. He prescribed me 20 5mg hydrocodone anyway. So i figured it was alright to fill it since im only supposed to take my norco four x a day and for my back(they already dont give me complete relief). Well i dropped it off at my reg pharmacy bc i have a contract that says i must use aame pharmacy, they said come back. When i did i was told that even though the dentist authorized it i could not fill it, so i called my pm n asked what was going on? They said i breached the contract and not to do that again, to inform them next time before i had work done. I went n today to pm to get my refill and was told i am discharged bc of that prescription and two others(which had to be the percasets from ob gyn a yr ago, that they knew about!) I am more than a little upset! I have always been very honest and was not trying to decieve anyone! Now i feel stupid for telling the truth! I have an appt with my family doc tomorrow to discuss what happened. My ? Is am i going to have trouble getting my meds now and finding another doctor? And any advice for me on how to handle my family doc tomorrow without making myself look like a "drug seeker"?

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NOT TRUE

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can the coast guard find out what prescriptions I receive if I don't claim them on my app?

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I have a problem. My Dr got in trouble with the dea for writing too many narcotics out. He wrote them out to anyone that walked in the door and was well known for doing that. I have Fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and chronic fatigue syndrome, osteo arthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. About 4 years ago, he put me on 5/500 hydrocodone. Then he sent me to a pain clinic and she put me on 10/325 hydrocodone. After my brother died, I was depressed and crying at my appt. with my regular Dr and he asked me what the pain clinic dr had me on so I showed him my bottle. He said well I can write that for you so he did and continued to until he got into trouble. When I went to him and he told me he could no longer write me out pain meds he suggested I go to a pain clinic again. I did not want to go to the one I went to before, long story that is irrelevant to the issue at hand. Long story short, my regular Dr wrote me a rx for 60 to wean me off the meds. I still had one refill left on the 180 pills a month he was giving me.so I held onto the rx he gave me. Meanwhile I went to a Neurologist who put me on amitriptylene. I tried them and they made me swell up all over especially in my knees where my osteoarthritis is the worst so I stopped taking them. I made another appt with my regular Dr and told him what was going on. He wrote me another rx for 60 more. I showed him I still had the first one he gave me and he said take this one also and get them filled when you can and they should last until you can get in with the pain clinic. Two weeks went by before I was contacted by the pain clinic. The soonest they could see me was 12/24/13 by this time I had already had one of the two rx filled so I still had one. I called the Dr's office to let them know I still have one rx for 60 but that wouldnt be enough to last until my appt on the 24th so they called a rx in for me for 60. Remember I still had the rx for 60 and I told them this,.That would have given me enough but now they will not fill this last one for me. I took it to the drugstore and the pharmacist said she would have to call the Dr's office and see what was going on. So now I have 3 weeks and no meds. I thought I wouldnt have any problems getting it filled since my Dr had wrote it out for me but they want to make it difficult for me and tell me I cannot get it filled now?? Any suggestions? Please don't bash me I am already going through enough hell right now being in pain and terrified of getting pill sick. Thanks.

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Been using the same dr for a year and mainly the same pharmacy. Prescription is norco 7.5. Started seeing diffrent dr and last week he called in a prescription for 10mg. pharmacy filled it n didnt say nething. Well my orifinal dr called in norco prescription to same place the othe day called pharmacy n they said I couldnt get it till tuesday. Im worried if I call bout it they will notice n call cops I dont want to go to jail am I just worried.

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i alsp have fybromyalgia from head to toe, had a 5 level fusion in my neck ,3 level fusion in my back, arthritis from head to toe,i have a nureo stimulator implant that is giving me immense pain,i have had 8 failed back surgeries i am on lyrica for the fybro it helps some, 50mg oxymorphine 3x's a day and percosets 3 -325/10 mg and zanaflex 4mg 2-3x's a day and still have a lot of pain but i settle for what i am getting instead of getting scripts and holding onto them and getting more scripts. my meds r due at different times of the month when my dr.gives me a script i directly take it to the pharmacy and they fill it when it comes due. if u r gonna run out your dr. could give u enough juet to get u to the 24th. that is soley up to him. good luck, Really if that is all the meds u r on and u r only taking them and not buying off the street i doubt u dont have much to worry bout being pill sick

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My dr. Faxed the pharmacy a script of vicodin and gave me scripts written out with his signature can I fill the written one at a different pharmacy?

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I have had this same thing happen to me and as long as you do not use the same pharmacy (obviously) and you make sure to go to a pharmacy that is unaffiliated with the first (no records kept electronically between them) and you only use insurance on ONE of them I say go for it and if some miraculous way you do get questioned, play dumb, like "I totally forgot my husband was picking the other up for me, he never brought it in the house so I assumed the fax didn't go through and I was here grocery shopping" but my money says you won't even run into this problem as most doc's make a very specific point to FAX or give you the HARD COPY,never both, because of this instance!

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