New Orange Subutex 153 Half Moon (Top voted first)

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I can say from experience these new 153 are no good...I cant say it more clearly - They suck!! If you depend on relief from your daily dose of subutex like i do, then be ready for a major LET DOWN

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What is the new law in TN? I live in a tri state area and there are rumors about all three states, some of the pharmacies lie,lie,lie. It comes down to they don't want junkies in their stores. I have two life long friends that work as pharm techs. They didn't know my situation...that I was addicted to oxycodone for years and had started on subutex. So we all go out to lunch and they started talking about 'all the junkies with their sub scripts' and how they like to f*** with their heads and tell them that their insurance wouldn't go through, that they couldn't fill new customers, out of state, out of town, the laws are changing...you get my point? It just disgusts me that the people admitting they are addicted and getting help are junkies but the ones coming in getting opanas and fent patches are just fine with them. I hate pharmacies, the little minimum wage b*****s that look down their nose at you because they have a lab coat on, but they can make or break your day...and I heard it from the horses mouths!

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Horrible, i feel like they giving me sugar pills, seriously feel like they're not 8mg. I have cold turkey detoxed before and i really feel like im withdrawing slowly over this month that ive had them.

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Sorry to hear about everyone's experience with these tablets... Reading all these reviews, including many on other related threads here, it almost seems to me as if the manufacturer (Actavis) has been diluting their medications across the board, from Norco to Subutex and perhaps others as well... So from my perspective, I get the feeling that they are putting less active ingredients in their pills to cut down on production costs and increase profits by keeping prices where they've been at. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but the enormous amount of feedback from dissatisfied patients kinda speaks for itself in my opinion.

I hope everyone here is able to get their doctor to specify a different manufacturer on the next refill. I wish you all the best of luck and good health as you transition to something better!

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Soooooooooooo True. I don't know what to do I hate these.

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Yea I think they suck, white ones so much better

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No one needs to be on 32 mg of bupernorphine ever. Even if they have pain. I take 4mgs a day and have
bad back pain and I'm good.

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From pharmaceutical experience. I believe it may be a mind thing. Believe me when I say as a fact that the 5411s (Roxys) and the mys are not putting as much "Bupe" in them due to production cost. The Orange half moon ones (as people are calling them) are not stingy on the bupe in their medication. They are MUCH STRONGER and last much LONGER. (25 Years in pharmaceuticals. Not saying much more due to what could turn in to legal matters). However, I thought I would let you guys know the truth in this matter.

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Everyone's different and yes I'm an addict, but u ppl kill. They're all the same. You're looking for a high. The orange Tex do taste like s*** though.

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They work just fine on me! Went from taking 4 80m.g. oxycontin pills to just 8 m.g. of subutex every 12 hours The Orange balf mooners are the TRUTH!

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I just got these too and I am experiencing the same thing! Someone please help!

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They helped me, and my husband. Im from TN so im just completely screwed over the new law. But if you're prescribed them I know here its just depends on the pharmacy you go to between those and the others..

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I couldn't agree more. I have been using the hightech brand for the past 6 months. And i decided to try the new orange ones. And i also feel like im going thru withdrawls. I cant sleep. 8m nautious. My pain is so bad. I dont know what to do. Im only 3 days into my script. And cant keep going like this.

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Has anyone had issues cutting your Subutex dosage? I had been on 8mg 4Xs a day for 9 years until my insurance company cut me to 3 a day last year, since when did they become DR's? I'm on the new orange surfboard Subutex, no different than the others, takes away my pain.

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I just got Subutex (half moon 153) and I wanna know, do you have to wait if you took opiates 1 hr ago?

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Yea they do suck i just got um and they make me feel sick i think suboxone may b better than those new oval 153s

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I'm the same way. I had been getting the strips and I was taking about 1 to 2 mg per day, went to the doctor and got the new orange subs and I was excited!! Because I told the doc I had been taking around 12 mg a day so he prescribed me 1 1/2 8 mg tabs a day! I'm glad I exaggerated because they just don't do the trick. I used to love those white ones, it's so weird that half the people posting like them and half don't?

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Ugghhh. Still just so angry 24/7. I don't feel like me at all, am always irritated, no motivation, tired, and just angry.

I am just so negative and so tired I can't stand it.

Taking less than my prescribed dose (even a lot less) makes things worse.

Even taking more than my prescribed dose in effort to find the equivalence between 1mg Activas and 1mg Roxanne, too makes things worse. MUCH worse – especially for the long term.

I have zero interest in doing anything in my usually active, happy life. I never, ever, ever even post on discussion threads. That is how drastic of a difference I've been experiencing.

Of course I would have already seen my doctor (paid for appt), got a new script (paid for a new script), gone to do a refill (paid for gas, meds, refill), etc. However, it's really not that easy for people in programs – especially when you live on a tight budget.

My doctor is very intelligent and also believes there to be a difference in generics, but he's been out of town on his summer vacation so I have to wait until he returns.

It's unbelievable how much of a negative impact this generic change continues to have on me. It's so irritating. I can NOT wait to get back to my normal dose and my normal routine. The same routine I've had for years and years.

Whatever the difference is in this Activas, Orange subutex (2mg), it is shockingly causing havoc on my life.

I only say this because I have been so happy, successful, determined, motivated, and just feel "like me" when I have been taking the same generic subutex I have for _years_ and years.

It honestly scares me how much of an impact this medication has even though it is "the same", in the eyes of the FDA.

For years I have never had cravings for anything other than family, work, and just living life in general. Have always taken my 1mg subutex dosage as prescribed (for 5-6+ years).

I know every human is different because of genetics and our environments, but it is a very worrisome thought that this medication could easily do the exact opposite of what it was designed to do. As in, lead to a relapse for anyone who is new into a suboxone/subutex program and might have switched to this other Activas brand after maybe 1 or 2 months into their program.

The difference is drastic enough, in my opinion, to totally throw a patient off balance – both physically and mentally.

I have read many other reviews where people have greatly preferred this brand over the one that I have taken for years.

That is an extremely, extremely critical thing that I truly hope these manufacturers are studying RIGHT NOW because this is a medication that should not be allowed to have such a drastic variation in ingredients - both active and inactive.

Where is the thresh-hold????

At a time when drug abuse is at a high, the last thing people trying to recover need is a terrible, terrible experience with a medication that is *marketed and sold* to people under the perception that one generic is "the same thing" as another generic.

I just truly can not believe the difference. Truly can not. It's so bothersome to me because I had felt so happy and positive for years.

Since a patient loses great cost when having to visit their doctor, explain the situation, go do a refill at a new pharmacy (after research), and then RE-CALIBRATE their dosing because 1mg of Generic A is absolutely not 1mg of Generic B.

I truly believe many other patients who have been taking generic subutex for sometime would agree how damaging it is for a patient to experience any difference in a mg:mg ratio, or any other difference with this medication.

Example: In my experience I would say this after about a week or so of being on the Activas.

1mg of Generic Activas = .5mg Roxanne

That is soooooooo significant.

Even if the ratio falls within "legal bounds" and is this:

1mg of Generic Activas = .8mg Roxanne

That is also extremely dangerous to an individual's recovery. Extremely.

At the same time, for those who experienced the opposite reaction and feel Activas is "stronger", that too is very dangerous to their recovery because it interferes with the most important thing every human body needs:

Consistency.....consistency.....

Whether it's sleep times, eating times, or medication dosing times, or the dosage itself, consistency is critical.

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They don't work at all I felt like I took nothing!!!!! I going threw withdrawal and I took a whole one unreal!!!!!!

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Your exactly right. They aren't what they are supposed to be

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Re: David (# 5) Expand Referenced Message

I have the orange ones and they are no good. I want to file a civil suit against this company for making me feel this way, it is not right!!!!

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