Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula
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is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Re: anonymous (# 9) Expand Referenced Message

If I was saying what you are saying, my nickname would be anonymous as well! I think you are the one telling falsehoods here.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

Purdue took out the oxytocin that gives you the well-being feeling which is a major ingredient in pain relief. It has made a huge difference and not a good one. Other opiate pain medicine like Norco has done the same. It's the damn street addicts that have caused this so-called opioid epidemic. Not us people under a doctors care. But then its easier to go after us than the addicts on the street. They buy the street drugs and od on them because no one knows whats in those drugs. They are the reason for this crap, not us!!

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Re: hanna (# 161) Expand Referenced Message

It's the strength of oxycodone continuous release tabs that makes them heroin-like.

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Can I have mundipharma fill my prescription of OxyContin 40 mg and mailed to me in the United States?

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I am trying to figure out what went where and when I can get the original formulation of Oxycontin 80 mg generic forum here in San Francisco. Please let me know if you have any Vital Information With regarding this.

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If I have a prescription for OxyContin 40 mg BID in United States can I order the original 40 oc from Europe instead of having to settle for the op version in the United States? If so what is the cost?

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There is Oxycontin the old OC formula. It is by Mundipharma and is the official Oxycontin here in Europe.

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Hi Janine. ...I'm really sorry that your doctor has it wrong...very wrong, a lot of them do and it has nothing to do with trust like Kimber/Emma said...
I will just fill you in a little. Emma is an upset ex step daughter...she doesn't take pain medication. A lot of the information she supplied was from her father's experience and the rest she read/cut and paste.. She believes doctors know it all but for people in pain that can be far from the truth unless that doctor has had pain himself/herself..I'm guessing it's what they are told by the companies producing this stuff..that plastic coated crap DOES NOT WORK...
Maybe you should find a different doctor to get the help you need...I feel for you. Xo
Ps...I'm sorry that I have, indirectly, bought this childish little person to this page...
Regards to all

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Sandie, Thank you for all of the information that you have taken the time to post here. It is much appreciated by me and others, I'm sure. Every now and then we get a know-it-all, who thinks they can diagnose and fix our problems (most recently Kimber). And..the know-it-alls ALWAYS have to throw in some rude comments about people being addicts, instead of people who are trying to live every day with debilitating pain. Do they really think that drug addicts would come to a site like this? What would be the point? I guess the internet trolls are always looking for new places to spew their nasty venom...and one of them just happened to turn up here...Kimber-Troll. Again...thank you, Sandie... for your much needed and appreciated advice. Sometimes, it is you who gets me through my day, when I don't feel like I'm going to make it.

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Kimber, If Sandie is full of it regarding the OC vs OP situation, then how do you explain my problem? I was on OCs for several years..they worked beautifully for my pain, gave me back my quality of life and I was able to return to work again. I was so happy. Then one day, after picking up my prescription, everything went downhill for me. My pain was back..full on..I had weird GI bloating, and felt extremely fatigued. Then, with my next 2 months of prescriptions...everything improved again. You see, I had no clue that the formula had been changed. I found out later that after giving me one month of the OPs, that for the next 2 months, I was back on the OCs, while they finished their stock. Then, in the 4th month, I had a mixture of both OCs and OPs. Some days I felt fine, but other days, I had pain, bloating and fatigue. I called my doctor because I had no clue what was happening. At first, I thought that my condition was getting worse. But, my doctor told me to speak to my pharmacist; he said he thought changes had been made to the formula. And...that was my first inclination that something was different with the OC/OP formula. The pharmacist explained when I was taking OPs vs OCs, and all of my awful days coincided with the OPs. Now...I have never sucked the coating off, broken or done anything to my medication, nor would I ever. I have been on OPs ever since..because somewhere along the line, my doctor became convinced that OPs are exactly the same as OCs, and I have no other choice for my pain. The OPs do little for my pain. I am bloated and fatigued, and I no longer work again...even though I loved my job. I would give anything to feel normal once again, and I know through my own experience, that bringing back the OCs would give me that feeling of being normal again. In the U.S., we have no choice; we have to deal with OP junk that does NOT work. So...if Sandie is an addict and all the other things you said about her...she did get the OC vs OP conflict right. I am living proof of that.

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Now that I've had the time to read your cut and paste message Kimber and bothered to think about who you are, I think you should apoligies to the people who read these posts..
You have never been on pain medIcation or in pain...how dare you write these comments telling people just wait three hours till they work etc...its obvious you've never been in pain...You've belittled people that struggle to get out of bed in the morning because they hurt so much....
You don't know me anymore but funny enough you still sound like the 12 year old little trouble making thing that I knew and am so glad that is out of my life...you haven't grown up one single bit...
Your Dad would be so embarrassed by your behaviour. ..
Bye Emma...

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My doctor doesn't tick the box..?
What's your problem Kimba.? Not that I care though...
All I was saying is how I feel by taking the two different brands and I don't chew don't suck the coating off...because maybe that's what you have done doesn't mean we all have...
Your a weirdo...

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Kimba just read part of what you said because I can't be bothered to read dribble..
But I did read the bit where you carried on about me not taking them properly...go screw yourself...you don't know me or what I do. If I wasn't doing the right thing I wouldn't be on this sight...
I hate judgemental...agrogant...ignorant people...

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I know this is an old post I'm responding to, but I also noticed many differences in the new OxyContin. There is a difference and many people have been made. One day I started feeling sick. I thought I was getting a flu bug that had been going around. I had this weird stomach ache head ache and was sweaty. My back and legs were hurting too. I just thought this will go away in a few days and to take it easy. Well on the 6th night I was SO SICK. afraid sick. I'd not ever felt this before. Also about 9 that night I threw up... again. Only this time I noticed my pain pill in the toilet. It had kind of this strange gelatinous look. Like my stomachs wasn't breaking it down. Again I thought this was because of the flu bug. Finally after 10 days I was sooo ill. I went and saw my doctor. I told him everything I just said here. He said, "well your probably going through with drawls from your medicine". HUH? WHAT?? WHY? I'm taking them. Turns out there are a lot of people that have been made very sick from this new formula. My dr explained they put something in it to make abuse proof. Well I didn't know that. They had looked the same to me. But the. I didn't really LOOK at them. Why would I? After my doctor explained what wax going on, he started me a new medication and said he'd had to change several prescription THAT WEEK! When I got home I took out my new bottle. I had some left of my old and compared them. Same color and size but different markings. My new said OP the old said OC on them. The more I'm reading the more I don't understand how they can approve something that's affecting so many people. Some people don't have enough digestive enzymes to break them down. That's what was making me sweat and feel sick. I wasn't absorbing it. I wouldn't have known had I not thrown up. Yuck. Sorry. Lol. But there's something else going on. My pharmacist said they use a polymer plasticizer in it to make them abuse proof. This ingredient does make some people very sick. Maybe your "friend" is abusing them and that is why they don't work for her. But myself and many others have not. This new formula op really does make a lot of us really sick. Just my 2 cents worth. Take care all.

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Yes they are made by perdue and they are all made here in the plant in Ontario Canada

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Sandie, no, sandoz did not then step in at all. The plastic crap was made because sandoz was bringing a generic to market in australia as the patent for australasia was up ending mundipharmas monopoly. I have put it in my other post. Read it ebfore you spout crap, The only reason you think sandoz was there after is because of why i stated that chemists were not selling it and because obviously your chemist was buying the new OP and handing back the OC because they dont like selling it. OC was still on shelves in australia in mid 2016 dpending where you go. I know because i get OC still sometimes when i can be bothered going to a certain place and the expiry date is even 2018.

If the doc doesn't want you taking sandoz they tick the box to say that you are not allowed generics. They dont take it up with government and crap like this being spouted in victoria. They tick a box. Your doctor can decide if they dont want yuo taking generic because they dont trust you.

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Sandie, You are full of it. The only reason OP from mundipharma are not working for you and you claim to be throwing up is because you take the Sandoz ones which are generic and you suck the coating off them and then chew them up so you get immediate release of 80mg. The OP from mudipharma can not be done like this and must be taken properly meaning you get 40mg instant and then 40mg over 9-12 hours. If you were not abusing your pain meds and were actually taking them correctly then OP would work for you. The problem and the reason why OP is in australia is because the patent was coming to an end for australia with mundipharma and the generics were coming out and mundipharma said to australian government that they would change their formula so that they can ban all generics and mundipharma would retain the monopoly in australia. The government did not do that after mundipharma changed to OP because they cant but what they did do was PBS offered chemists alot more money back for each pack they sell of the OP from mundipharma. meaning you pay $6 or $39 to your chemist and the PBD pays the chemist an extra $70 per packet that they sell of mundipharma but if they sell the generic or sandoz generic then they only get $30 per packet. So the chemists do not stock any other brand or sell any other brand than mundipharma so that way they get the higher prices and the government are happy because there is no tablets than can be tampered and doctors are happy, the only person who isn't happy is the person who breaks them up. Now there are some chemists that sell sandoz generic mainly chemist warehouse and night and day and the mega savings chemist, but they are crap versus the munidpharma OP ones if you compare by taking both properly.

Now mundipharma knew everyone was complaining because it turns out more people on oxycontin are abusing than they thought which means more complaints and most people dont know about sandoz or where to get them, but now mundipharma has made a new one called ONs that release much better but are still tamper proof, though you can always bite them into 4's if you have to. I am on 160mg 3 times a day plus up to 4 20mg oxynorm a day plus 1 200mg palexia twice a day. Palexia is something that doctors love giving out because it keep your dose moderated. Also if your doctor is giving you targin and you are on a higher dose than 40mg then you are being done by a dumb doctor. They give you targin because of the naloxone which is what ambos carry with them to get you out of instant overdose. Every oxy addict should have a syringe of naloxone. You can not take more than 40mg of naoxone, so if you are on 60mg oxy and taking a 40mg and a 20mg targin then you need to tell your doctor to speak to their rep as that is the wrong thing to be taking due to the overdose of the naloxone every day, twice a day.

Those in america who want to know what australia has, we have mundipharma with OP but now they have newer smaller packets which are OC and are better. You can see they are better than OP just by looking at them, they are darker and less wax. We then have sandoz which are old formula regarded as OC but they are shyt compared to OC mundipharma. We then have 100mg and 200mg of palexia. Which is an add-on to your oxy. Now mundipharma is OC.

Those who break their meds are doing themselves a bad thing as it puts their dose up super fast and they screwed it already for the rest of us. Those who are on oxy and are not on higher enough dose you need to google the best pain specialists in your city and go see them. They will write a letter so your doctor can get you authority for a full months worth every month on a single script, so for me its 6 packs of 80s a month for $6. You only have to see that specialist once every three months and they only cost $180 and medicare give half back so who cares if you have to go to the next major city to get the review every 3 to 6 months. Your pain specialist has authority to give you what you need and they are pain specialists because they believe in pain meds and they will give you what you need. Then your GP can phone up each month and get your authority.
Seriously those on this stuff for pain need to seriously find something else to take with it. Gabapentin in small doses is really good like 50mg instead of 300mg. This stuff you wont notice anything at all and then a couple of months later if you took it every day you will suddenly feel a lot better and your dose will stop going up. it is how the chemicals work with your CNS. The stuff makes you feel normal. oxy makes you feel normal but after a while you come down from it after a major sleep and you realize you were high, so gabapentin makes you feel normal like you use to. the oxy takes care fo the pain meds and the other stuff takes care of your attitude and your view on life and your ability to get through the day. Instead of being in bed till 10am you are up at 7am wanting stuff to do.

Those of you who feel major pain when the oxy wears off, this is pretty much pain that is from withdrawals. It will always magnify your pain and gabapentin with oxcy will take care of nerve pain so when you withdraw a bit the pain will be half what it usually is when your tablet stops working because the gab takes care of nerve pain and signals meaning you wont quickly have 2 tablets. Many people have one tablet and then half hour later take another and all the sudden they are up higher doses. You need to wait three hours for the tablet to peak. So set alarm clock and halve table a few hours before you wake up so you wake up feeling better. Rather than in pain like a train hit you and you needing to take extra tablets because your pain is worse. You still need to wait 3 hours.

Anyway you guys that are addicts, you know who you are. Start helping yourself by giving them more time and taking something like gabapentin to help. Obviously i take alot of oxy and i am too addicted but i take it for pain and i take it right but if i take it wrong for a few months then i also am able to get my dose back down by stopping and giving it time to work and taking the gaba. The gaba is amazing. You wont know about it because it doesnt do anything until one day it does. If you take too much you will feel speedy but if you take too litle you will feel speedy but if you take just right you will be so happy. This stuff kills people. I have seen so many people wake up to their partner being next tot hem dead all because they took a single extra tablet. I cant take 10 80s a day if i needed to but one day I will think i can do that and i cant and die. Be careful.

The reason I called Sandie out for being an addict is because i have known her most of her life and she is an addict. All the time moaning about their meds, always a problem. Back in the OC days was moaning about it not being enough. Always something with Sandie. You see Sandie's friends hate hearing her always complaining. I have known Sandie many many years and the thing is Sandie doesn't know I take Oxy too. Because it is not the only thing i ever talk about. Stop taking all your meds at once and breaking them up and running out and you wont always be in pain. if you double up without giving it three hours and then you are going to be in more pain the next day because it wears off. You may not even know you are feeling high but you could be. If you aren't sleeping then you are certainly high. If you are drowsy you are overdosing the stuff. Give it three hours and take your dose and see if it works in three hours. Rather than waiting an hour and taking more.

Yes my spelling is terrible but that's cause im writing 100 words a minute cause i had a lot to say and i wanted to say something after spending another saturday listening to Sandie and her household. BTW, The best GP for this stuff is Dr as he has a thing with the pain clinic who gets kickbacks sending patients there and they both look after their patients so they both keep making money. Phone your local pain clinic up and ask them if you can come and see them and that you do not want to be flagged for doctor shopping so can they tell you a GP who is understandable to pain. In melbourne where I am from it is cake. As it was when i was in perth. You need oxy then you need to go to a GP who believes in pain clinics and providing opiates and the only way to find them is by asking the person that is the person who gets lots of referrals from a GP. They know who is more open to opiates than you and your mates.

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Her post was detailed and indeed indicated she is currently a patient at the only pain clinic in her area.

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Yesterday I had to take the s***ty plastic formula manufactured by Mundingpharma (not sure of the spelling) because they had run out of the Sandoz brand at my chemist.. Half an hour later I was vomiting and had a really horrible headache...I didnt get any pain relief until I was able to get my Sandoz ones in the afternoon... I am astounded that doctors believe that there is nothing wrong with the plastic wrapped Mundingpharma product.. What I want to know is who trialed those tablets? Who from that pharmaceutical company said that there are no side effects? Who said that the pain relief was the same as the Sandoz? Who is lying because the Mundingpharma formulation is so horrible yet the doctors that I see say that it was trialed and I'm the one lying....? So who does the testing for these companies? Who are the guinea pigs?

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I am on Oxymorphone ,but it does not help the pain like Original oxycontin,some days it does not help at all .I have also tried fentanyl patches .methadone . I am lucky my doctor has tried to help me .I have no idea why OC worked the best and did not make me tired.I have tried almost everything ,and that's why I feel so hopeless.

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