Suboxone And Pre Employment Drug Screen (Page 6)

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I am prescribed suboxone for an opiate addiction maintenance program. First, will it show up in a ten panel test? Second, can an employer discriminate if they have already offered me the job? Third, is this violating any privacy laws?

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No they will not find Suboxone in most drug tests they need to test for it separately BUP is the narcotic that is in the Suboxone but it's synthetic opiate that needs to be tested separately I know this because I just took a urine test and I had Suboxone in my system and they did not find it.

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Re: Ugafan01979 (# 98) Expand Referenced Message

Not exactly true... It is a partial-agonist opioid. It IS an opioid, with high affinity to certain receptors, meaning it sticks to the receptors tightly and for a long time. Short acting opioids like heroin or oxycodone are not able to adhere to the receptors when the bupe/sub is already there, in most cases. The naloxone does not block opiates either. It is strictly there to prevent tampering aka, people administering it intravenously, because it strips all opioids from receptors when IV'ed. When taken sublingually, it literally does nothing. It is an opiate, but it has a "cap", or a ceiling, and the bupe/sub blocks other opioids due to its affinity, and naloxone does nada, unless taken intravenously.

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Be aware, i have seen questions about D.O.T pre employment tests. You can NOT be on either suboxone or subutex and legally drive a professional vehicle with a cdl!!!! Doesnt matter if it is prescribed or not it is on the banned list from the government. So do not volunteer the information at time of test if asked.

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I went to take my CPR/Heart savers and skills tests last week an after I had written my medicine down and done my screen they said they were unable to hire me because I had to be on suboxon for at least 6 months before I could work there. Keep in mind I've worked for this company before a couple of times. It's in home health. This was going to be for my mother this time tho. Well today I talked to another lady at the office and she said the reason they couldn't hire me was because I FAILED my screen. That's untrue. They refuse to give me a letter stateing why they won't hire me after they let me say through my skills classes an take the tests. They waited till I drove an hour home an I called them to have my online tests reset before they would tell me. What are some of y'alls input on this an what can I do about it? I'm not goin to let them get by with this an do it another person. The lady at the Day report center where I took my screen put gabapention on my screen to send off to test the levels. The one nurse at the Home health agency called it an opioid lol

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Ok I am going to clear up so much he said she said..Ok first of all when you to a regular job they are not going to test for suboxone..#2..If you are going to work in an industrial environment or dot is involved, I am letting everybody know right now, they do have the so called "Special" test for suboxone... Let me tell what I went through yesterday. I went to take a physical in baton rouge, la. I was trying to get on with a company that was offering employment at the plant. I'm not going to say names. Anyway this is what happened to me. The freaking doctor was such an a**hole. I mean to tell you I have never been treated like this in my life!! He said to me that the drug companies lie and so do the doctors giving out the medication "Suboxone". This a**hole told me that it is an opiate and that opiates are in my system! He also gave me and wrote on my paper a "Restriction" not allowing me to use heavy machinery and I could not use the man lift for 90 days! I was so pissed not only did I not go to work, the office treated me like dog! They were upset because they actually do know that something is up with your drug test. These people are squirrelly sons of you know whats..I think there should be privacy in this medicine and there is not!! They wonder why there is an epidemic because the doctors are writing the scripts then when you want to get clean you gotta choose between your job and this medicine.

My advice to you get clean for about 7 days because the test will pick it up!!..Then go test then pass it. But you are subject for randoms so you can not take suboxone on these jobs including cdl drivers...Let me go back to what the doctor also told me. He said that its a drug no matter how you look at it and he was very rude to me and he did not care that I was not going to get the job. I asked him if I was clean in a week would he remove the restriction and he said that it was a mandatory restriction that dot makes him do this! How you like that? I am now cold turkey off of this suboxone crutch!! It is ruining my life worst than when I was on pain pills. At least a pain pill only stays in your system for 3 days...Ha ha...But dont worry they get you either way. There should be a law put into place about this particular medicine. But there is nothing for it!! Oh yes and the doctor also told me that dot tested this drug on numerous individuals and they claim that a person who is taking suboxone will forget to tie off while he is in a man basket... But then after he told me all of this I carried the 50 pound box to the end of the hall and back... And I stated to the doctor... Gee well its a good thing that I remembered that I was carrying the box and didn't drop it. I am sure that he did not like my sarcasm but he was a real a**hole doctor!!I

Personally, I think it's a bunch of crap and I think it's discrimination especially if you knew how this doctor treated me... So I guess now I have to go back and pay this doctor to lift this restriction because now I am sure im in the computer somewhere with this on my name. I am so pissed at the whole entire situation period!! I hope that this helps and puts an end to all of the questions that you see online all of the time. I also want to add that these companies are now purchasing or going to these doctors and telling them to test for suboxone and methadone etc..The tests are easily sold online just like everything else..So you are done either way..Just take my advice and get clean and stay clean is all I can tell you because they have labeled this a drug schedule iii narcotic period end of subject end of statement have a great day!! Just to let you know these programs are charging $150 to $400 to get suboxone it was a scam from the beginning and it still is. These doctors most of them want you to stay on this drug. I have been on it for 4 years or better. It was time for me to quit anyway. My dr who prescribes this to me has never once talked to me about cutting down. He is making money from my visit. You have to be smart and take care of your self.

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Re: Crystal (# 104) Expand Referenced Message

Crystal, I did a lot of searching online about all of these new tests. Listen, they are testing for not only the drug itself. They are testing for derivatives. In other words for other components which make up the drug that you take. Listen its getting mean out there. Employers simply do not want their employees on any kinds of medicines unless it's for diabetes, heart or something like that. Pain control is like a stigma now because people get addicted to feeling good or better. They want you to be drug free period!! Things are changing and I promise you before its over with they will be testing for anything that's in your system..It's truly ridiculous. Just try to get clean girl like me. I know its hard but I refuse to let them win!

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Re: LauraKnowsThings (# 102) Expand Referenced Message

Laura knows things is DEAD WRONG!! That's the ignorant thinking that I was told and I am telling you she is dead wrong..YES it is that...They are testing for this derivative of OPIOIDS!!! She needs to get informed. I am trying to tell you people I have been on the phone today to make sure with FMCSA! IT IS TOTALLY LEGAL!! They can test you for it and the employer has a right to have a drug free employee. Get it through your heads! Stop sticking your heads in the sand! You're going to have to deal with your pain in another way if you want to work in these environments and I mean CDL's, Industrial Jobs and most common professional jobs. Pretty soon they will all be doing this drug testing because its cheap and easy to get hold of these test kits. WAKE UP!! A lot of places are already onboard with hair testing too!!

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Re: brandi (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

Does Subutex show up at med express employer drug screen

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Re: Ash (# 6) Expand Referenced Message

What type of employment if u don't mind me asking? Healthcare?

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