Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Top voted first)

hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind

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yo man. i hope you are over your addiction by now but for anyone wondering if sub works. i was using 6 opana 80's a day since the day that they stopped making oc's. recently i had the revelation that quitting might possible be a great idea. knowing that suboxone has a strong binding (to the brains opiate receptors) affinity and will knock other opiates off of the receptors i decided to take the tiniest piece of sub. maybe.25 mgs. well it made me feel better for about 6 hours. i re dosed with the same amount. at the end of day 4, i still had a 3rd of the sub left, and i noticed that on day three i didn't need to take a sub untill about 4pm, and felt fine until then. day 4 i dosed again and day five was just an amazing day. i had an unexpected run-in with someone that i haven't heard from in a very very long time...that person was me. i literally forgot what it felt like to be normal. i was watching tv and was laughing at what i was watching..i was able to converse with people again, and my brain bounced right back. 5 days and two thirds of a suboxone. did u read how many op's i was snorting a day? that was a f***ing addiction. if i could pull myself out, anyone can. i know that this is a term that is thrown around alot for different situations, but i literally felt like there was a fifty lb weight lifted off of my back when i walked outside. i don't know what the hell happened to me during my addiction, or how it got as bad as it did. what makes me glad is, that chapter of my life is finished. i don't know about relapse. as of right now i never want to use another opiate again...but then again, i also "knew" that i would never let myself get addicted, and if ur still reading this, you now know as well as i do that that didn't work out too well for me. so far something that has kept me hanging onto sobriety is to wake up in the morning and remind myself of how miserable my life was, and all of the bitter bitter things that i did to my life myself my family and my every day world. i doubt anyone is still reading this, but if by the grace of god one addict reads this, just one, and it makes him/her think that it may be time to regain his/herself and his/her future, than i will be satisfied. please just give it a shot, if u don't think the sober life is for you, you're free to relapse again and welcome all of that bitterness back into your world. i have never felt so good in my life, and i know you want to be able to say the same. i was very very high for a long long time, getting high just to feel normal..now that i'm sober, i've realized that that "normal" feeling that i would seek out every f***ing day of my life while i was on drugs was anything but normal. anything but normal. am i the person from the statistics about heroin? am i that "1 in 25 chance" of making it out alive? i don't have an answer for that..i still have a long life ahead of me to live...and thats alot more than i could say two months ago -Matt

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It is possible!!! I had a Roxi 30's habit of 5-7 a day for 1year. Detoxed off 2 and half 8 mg sub films! Used subs for 6 days..jumped at 2. Took lots of vitamins, Sure it was hell but better than w/d from pain pills! Today is my 16 day off subs!! I woke up and seen the light at the end of the tunnel! Finally slept 8 hours without waking up in pool of sweat! It can be done Good Luck to all!

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you aren't clean if you're on methadone. u just traded one addiction for another. stop lying to yourself.

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To Hanna..This isn't a 12 step forum, it is people helping people without judging..Your comment concerning trading one drug for another is something NA made up. Please leave youre opinions concerning your NA recovery how it relates to you, NA doesn't work for everyone..BTW, I am not putting it down because for a lot of addicts it works, but unless you have walked in other addicts shoes. 2 people I loved dearly died because they were told by NA members that "It always gets better" Those friends both sufferd from PAWS (Post acute withdrawls) in their cases (And mine) PAWS never went away..Charlie was going to get on methadone on a Monday, however, a member told him he wouldn't be a "winner" if he got on methadone. That Sunday night he blew his brains out. My best friend Nicolette died because of PAWS, they found her face down in a gutter in a city she had never been to...Its not your place to judge or tell people they arn't clean unless they are abstinant..Only NA/AA uses that BS..I am clean by using opiate replacement therapy that is my recovery and is none of your concern Matt or Hanna, or whoever you call yourself today

Pat

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"i have been clean using methadone" haha ...right. i remember being clean from heroin by using fentanyl...found out quick how unclean it really was.

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wow....absolutely amazing post from hannah opana. congrats on your recovery.. i too am sober and i can tell just by your post that you are very serious about staying off of the opiates. i have quit many many times, and this last (and final) "quit" for me was the one.. i knew it would be. i felt different this time around when i quit. i was over it all, just as you are saying that u are. good luck

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Ive been doing percs 30 like 2 a day and i have like a suboxone and a half will it get me throught the detox period im going to take a quarter a day my friends said that a suboxone and a half should get me throught the sh*tty feeling of detox!

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You arent commited enough. easier SAID commited. but that is your issue AND my issue. my main drug of choice is vicodin which alot of people think aww that aint s**t. i took vicodin for months it stopped workin so i started taking oxys til they stopped workin like they use to. i withdrawaled cold turkey and it was really hard. i was clean for about 45 days and the whole time all i could think about was vicodin. so i eventually relapsed. i thought maybe i could handle doin it occasionally like i use to. i slipped back into my addiction so fast and within like 3 weeks i was back on oxys 6 months go by with about 3 failed attempts to cold turkey it (i have done the suboxone thing but that is a false hope really it is that s**t gets u high and u still arent technically clean.) and i finally made a decision that i was sick of being sick all the time and that the s**t was ruining my life. so i quit cold turkey again. i went about 3 weeks and i was still w/ding so i thought maybe i could take vicodin to ease the withdrawals. i took vics for about 3 weeks and i never felt a pain like that in my entire life. i would take 5 750's and immediately start withdrawaling reallly bad within about 3 hours. so 11 days ago I knew it was now or never. i just keep repeating the same old habits over and over and over again. i quit the vicodin cold turkey and i dont know if it was because i wasnt done w/ding from the oxys when i started taking them but this has been the worst withdrawal worse than the oxys. i know its hard to believe. but I have MADE A CHOICE to have my life back instead of the drug having my life. YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO LET YOUR ADDICTION GO 100% YOU HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE TO IT. its the hardest thing i know (ive f***ed with H a couple times so i understand what ur going through as well with that drug) i stopped taking it because i was too scared to fall into that. but listen to what i am telling you. If you're going to quit you have to WANT it completely or you'll never get clean straight up, you will never get clean unless you are willing to let it go and never look back. Buy an NA book and read that sht it will tell you what you need to do to stop. you dont necessarily have to do the 12 step thing tho youre chances of success are much higher with it. and one more thing that you are probably doing wrong is listening to the voice in the back of your head telling you its ok for you to get high today. thats the devil speaking to you dont f***in listen to that s**t. sometimes its hard to push the voice out. at times he will keep nagging at you for hours. but as each day goes by the voice gets fainter and fainter and those are the words that were told to me by people who have been clean for years. we are addicts and always will be. but there is light at the end of the tunnel i promise. those 45 days i was clean were the best ive felt in years and i still beat myself up over relapsing. but keep your head up THINGS GET BETTER.

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(continuiation of my last post) seriously though i want to talk to you about PAWS. i am ready to give it all up and get high just so i can stop acting like such a little bitch. and in response to the AA/NA comment you made. those organizations will only make you worse. they are all generic garbage, and although i may have addiction in common with the other people in the meetings, i never felt like i fit in there. i don't feel like i'm better than anyone at all, but alot of those people at the meetings, every one that i've gone to whether it be here (philly), san diego, miami, key west.. they are all outcasts and all have that same look / personality / creepiness and i can not relate with any on them. everyone is very very different. there are no two people who are emotionally alike. yet they generalize all of the addicts into one group and give a very generic group treatment. it's buIIs**t

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You not really ready to quit being high. You either got some major issues in the past your need to deal with and get over or find closure or you just wanna keep getting high. You got to hit a bottom. Most people dont really wanna get clean until they hit the bottom and have nothing and no body. I hope u can figure out that drugs are not the life for anyone. U needa get clean and forget about the drugs and those loser that u hang wit. u might think their your friends but really think about it, they just using you to get high.....

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yes, make sure u have enough, like 8 to 10 8 mg tabs, and start with one and work it down to half then 1/4 tab. youll get some wd but nothing like the h wd.

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Been on Hydro/Oxy's for a good 2months ish. Maybe 3months I can't quite remember but I take about160mg a day and don't wanna anymore. I also have a box of suboxone 8.5 subling films. Last night I got sick, total w/d symptons and I ended up taking a single film and felt phenom.pretty quickly.
I need advice on how to take this suboxone drug. Do I need to take another in a few hrs or just take when I start to feel sick. What is too much. Been a drug user my entire life and do smoke daily. I think that's all you ned to know:) any help out there?
Thanks so much! Have a wonderful night!

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BTW Matt/Hanna Here is a website that you will feel more at home with www.NA.org You may also wish to look under 12 step recovery programs on Facebook
Pat

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sandstormtakeursonsvirginity, you are a complete fool.

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umm yeah, i regretted those posts as soon as i posted them.. i've been a real a55hole since i got clean. i honestly think i have the worst case of Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome ever known to man. for anyone who is looking forward to sobering up from the opiates, i wish you well. i truly do. beating the physical wd's is just the tip of the iceberg. because we don't need to emotionally cope with anything while high, and we use the drugs to mask anything and everything emotionally damaging, our brain does the same thing to your "emotional coping mechanisms" as it does to a muscle that is never used...shut's it down until it is once again built back up from its inert state. while i can say that i do feel better than i have in years, emotionally i am an absolute roller coaster. and apparantly this is common for heavy opiate/alcohol users after they quit. anyhow, my apologies for being a douche bag. -H.O..

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tottally agree i tried the aa/na seen for about a month and i couldnt stand it. its just not me, like you said its just not for some people, some people it works for but not me... i have a diffrent personality then they do... but i do know it works for some people but for others it doesnt.. u just gott find your own way of quiting.. like getting a hobby moving away from the situation always works for me... like i go hunting when its hunting season and when its not hunting season i go fishing and when im not fishing i ride dirtbike.. anything to keep my mind busy... thats what works for me not aa/na... seriously after every meeting i went to everybody stands around and just talks about there horror stories from when they were using and for me thats not what i wanna n hear cuz for me thats a trigger.. and was forced to go to rehab for two weeks cuz i was on probation and gave a dirty urine and same thing did no good...that was even worse than aa/na meeting thats all rehab was about where i went they would just talk about there past how to bang dope and coke how many millagrams of pills people were taking... it was a waste of my time... so basicly just pick up a hobby or somthing your interested in and it will help you control the substance... good luck

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Hey Cory, if we all agreed on everything the world would be a very boring place..I respect your opinions and would never try to sway them, and that is all I ask from others. I still however even though you are right that doctors are just book smart, when we start telling people to take this pill or that pill, and something happens to that person its on us. that is why I never tell people what to take before they speak to a doctor, let the doctor be liable..I tried suboxone before it was even prescribed here..I guess you could call me a lab rat experiment gone wrong. Suboxone almost killed me, my organs shut down, and it was horrible..I just happen to be that small percentage who can't tolerate it...As for AA/NA. glad you left, to me at least where I live it is a meat market. and I had to listen to people talk about how much they slamed. stole. in other words glorified war stories, who GAF what a person used and how much they spent A lot of new people went out and used because they wanted to try drugs they never did..IMHO it is a cult.....

Pat

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I just read your post and I wanted to give you my experience. I do agree with Suboxone changing your life and getting back on your feet however getting off the suboxone was harder than getting off of H. I am on day 6 of my withdraw from the suboxone and its driving me INSANE.. i was on it for 7 months and im glad i got my life back but honestly it makes me wanna take somthing else to get this withdraw goine. im a VERY strong person but suboxone is HORRIBLE coiming off of. I would take an H withdraw ANYDAY over this.

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I had an aneurysm In 97 it ruptured basiliar arterial anny. I survived and am one of the few who have. I waited two years for the 3d coils to be placed inside the
Aneurysm. It was a success I had the greatest intra vascular neuro surgeon the problem was the pain and the fact that every heart beat the sac was filling up and I was basically walking the green mile of life every second. It was a very painful and rare experience.
I was put on of course lortab and perocet for many years, I'm 41 year old male and have been through hell.
I got off the Valium the pain killers and then had another set back with an injury, I was like great here we go again. So I was put on lortab 10 and norco, I did fine and got off again cold turkey twice. It's not fun as we all understand. In 2004 I was getting tremendous and I mean the most horrid headaches imaginable because when I ruptured blood residue got between a membrane and is still there it's extremely rare and is some pain I wish on nobody. So then I was put on 30 milligram oxycodone. Started off with maybe one a day and by 2007 I was up to 12 30's a day.
I'm stubborn so I went cold turkey and ouch I was in the hospital... The pain and w/d after all the years of pain and then the factor of needing it was insanity.
I can't believe I'm still alive, lost both my parents and if course got back in lortab 10 for emotional and still pain I'm taking maybe 14 a day which is horrible I feel them but I'm sick of the grind. I have to go on the street to get my amount required to feel normal. I wont touch oxys I have used a couple but don't crave them. Recently I've just gotten to the point I'm sick of this s***. I use xanex to relax and to me it's the easiest to get off of, everyone is different. I've done the oxy hell I'm just sick of the chasing to get my amount. The time the money the bs,
I think I could go cold turkey but I'm getting older now and now when I get sick I throw up so hard the pressure us not good on my neck. Some people say that lortab ain't s*** but 14 a day with some xanex is just old. I'm goIng to a suboxone doctor because I have to work and I don't have the down time to just kick.
Is suboxone that bad as I've read and if it's worse then oxy withdrawal after 11 30's a day for 3 years there is no way. Im not as young and the thought of w/d right now is tiring plus with paws and depression.
I'm confused I no the half life and it's heavy shot but can it be used properly and detox if done properly.
I was thinking about getting on an antidepressant to fight the blues. Everyone is different, I hate the judgmental people, how disturbing, life is about support and love. Some people are so cold and hateful.
Ive been through the ringer and losing both parents has me thinking it's time to just live without having to pop pills. I know it's a trade off, one or the other. I'm just having second thoughts about subs. But I want to live and I know I'll probably slip back from pain, I think it's in the mind so much, just not knowing paying some a** 3 for one blue pill us killing my state if being.
I could get whatever I wanted pain but it seems alot if people the ones who extract stuff and abuse which is a disease to me not to judge. But it has screwed up my ability to get pain management without the doctors tripping. I'm ramblIng and probably all over place but is suboxone at small doses and then weaning really a good idea? Is the w/d worse then oxy? And can it be used if done in a correct fashion? I probably have one more cold turkey left in me. But 14 loris a day is still going to take awhile. I don't have the down time, any help would be appreciated. If you respond nicely great, if you want to put me down or say something silly then please don't respond. Thanks.

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Well Matt I read through your whole story and I really want to be a 1 in 25 as well! I'm about to start my life over! I'm 41 and been on either oxycodne-contin for about 8 yrs and the past 8 mths the dreadful h! I'm so ready to write back to this page on my 1 in 25 success story! I'v lost my family some close friends n about to loose my buisness! I'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for my 21 yr old girlfriend to get out of work so we can try and come up with money to go to the city and get some more h!!! When I shud be at my tattoo shop making money hand over fist but I'm to sick to work! Iv been on the net looking for help in Wi. And there just isn't any for opiates? Or if u do find some your going to go broke getting any help! So I too am going to resort to hitting the streets in search of some boxers. Iv only used them a few times before with success if it wasn't for the voice telling me " just party on the weekend" pfsst! To that! That was 3 yrs ago! So I have one chance left I have a sister that is not going to let me die on her watch! Or loose my beautiful 2 yr old son! She lit a fire under my ass and is helping me get through this mess iv gotten myself in to. but I'm so glad I have her to help me out! I didn't ask for this, it started with a simple shoulder surgery and a Dr. That just handed me pills like candy! Next thing you know its. 8 yrs later n I'm sitting in a parking lott telling u my life story! Well Matt I will be in touch with you on this web page and I will let you kno if the boxer in me came out victorious or if the voice in the back of my head k.o. my ass! Wish me luck! Well Siss here I come, I will see you in the A.M.! I'm ready go a dozen with the Devil!!!

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