How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 31)
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I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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PLEASE no one take offense to what I am about to write here, but it is a shame that you all have to go to these extremes for pain relief. I, myself, can't relate because I now have the Intrathecal Narcotic Pump and I take the Roxicodone for breakthrough pain. I don't want anyone at all to think that I am judging anyone at all for snorting them because living with severe, severe pain, that there is no relief for, will drive anyone to do desperate things....I know all too well about it. Have any or all of you thought of contacting an attorney and suing Endo??? As I wrote earlier, there will always be people out there abusing pain medication, nothing will ever change that. And all of a sudden these doctors and society in general, want to come up with labels, such as pain med seekers and such. I will admit to anyone at all that I am dependent upon pain medication. I have Dilaudid in my pump, plus I take 15 mg's of Roxicodone every 6 hours as needed. Trust me when I write here that I am not judging anyone. I did 'abuse" the Opana ER's when I was on them, and I had to be honest with you all about the fact that I loved the high that I got....and I was a person who judged anyone and everyone who so-called abused pain meds. I learned to never do that again in my life. I do not have cancer, so I will not go into all of my diagnosis' or about/how much titanium in my spine....I won't do that because I am fortunate to not need pain meds. to function daily due to cancer pain.But, I will let you know that I can not walk because of pain....that is when my pain isn't under control. I still have pain and I have come to terms with the fact that I will always have some sort of pain, but as long as it is bearable, I am thankful to God for this. I wish that I could help you all, but I can't and unfortunately, no one can. Other than putting you all on different meds. I wouldn't know what else that there is. And since Oxycontin, which never worked like that Pharmaceutical company said that it did in the first place, I don't know of any other extended time release med. other than methadone which I heard is awful. I just wish that all of the pain management doctors out there wouldn't believe these pharmaceutical people and what they write up about their clinical trials....they are all out for themselves...all greedy and taking advantage of human beings who are desperate for pain relief and somewhat vulnerable. There needs to be something done with these companies legally. As I wrote earlier, there is always going to be someone out there just looking for a fix....that has been going on as long as there has been opiates on the market.....this is not something new. Good luck to you all.

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That is all that you do?

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Okay, Les, and anyone else who is interested. You will first need to aqquire a Dremel (power tool) with a 'grind stone' bit ( you dont want a sanding type bit, because itll flake off and you dont want that in your nose!). K next take some needle nose pliers or a knife to hold the pill stead. A knife works just as well, you can stab it through the middle of the pill and as long as the knife is solid enough it should hold the pill in place.

Once you have your 2 main tools for the operation, find a shoe box or something thats walled in (because the dremel will throw powder everywhere if you dont have some sort of catching system). What i did was take a normal shoe box, clean it out, poke a hole in the bottom, and shove the tip of the dremel through that. Take your pliers, grab the EDGE of the pill, turn the dremel on to a lower speed (2 or 3 out of 10) and start grinding.

The end product should kinda look like very small ice flakes. Almost a powder but not quite.

I will warn that this method tends to produce a stronger and longer high ( at least in my case) but does take longer to kick in than the old formula.

Im in a rush and dont have time to proof read, ill be back on later if you guys need any more elaboration

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Helper - please enlighten me as to how it can be done.

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Donna, thanks for the compliment. If I were all of you on this new Opana ER's, I would either DEMAND to be put on the Oxycontin or Roxicodone. I receive good pain relief from this medicine, plus I don't have to abuse it to receive the pain relief.
Donna, you asked the question on why is Endo doing this? Because of money. Now that they have come up with this new brand of Opana ER, the patent goes back and no other Pharmaceutical company can make a generic form. I think that "we, the people" honestly need to start questioning the motives of these companies and demand some answers that make sense. Pain medication will ALWAYS be abused and that is just the way that it is and changing them is just a great way for Endo to have their precious patent that no other company can make a generic form of. Honestly, this company needs to be sued. I did have a problem with it, but there are so many others that it helped. I have actually prayed for everyone out there because I can't imagine what you all are going through. No pain relief and withdrawal to top it. All because of greed. Everyone should demand to be taken off of it to make a point to these companies....WE THE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!

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Hey everyone. I just wanted to let people who dont know that there is a way to snort these, and they help much like the old formula. All you need is a dremel, a shoebox, and some needle nose pliers. Ill go into more detail if asked, will check back tomorrow. Its great and really isnt too much work. Please respond

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God Bless You honey Im.so glad you made it. I.pray that you have some kind of pain relief n some Quality of Life. Its such a shame in order to live pain free we have to become dependent on something that takes over our lives. And then judgemental.people look.down on us, as if we r not devestated by it already. Saddest thing is our Quality of Life is even worst than the pain was when the pills take over. Maybe one day someone will come up with a miracle for Chronic pain n Cancer patients.
Again my respect to you and prayers for everyone.

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LizaJane I applaud you for getting off these "devils in a bottle". I personally used to abuse my meds but I did get dependent on them because of legit pain. I wont go in to all the gory details but I had to get back on meds for real pain n to have some Quality of Life. However i was taking them by mouth as prescribed. As soon as they put me on Opana, Endo went n effed them up. I am planning to just ask to be put back on the oxy 80s. They r also abuse proof but I get some relief from them. With the opana i get zero relief n I have withdrawals. Also, i didnt believe it til I experienced it but the WDs from the opana r even worst than oxy, roxy, etc. I had gotten 1 month of the 20s n then when they changed me to the 40s it was the New ones n the WDs blew my mind especially since i was taking them by mouth, not shooting snorting r injecting. I never undrstood y the WDs were worst if u did that until i learned on Topix about bio-availability.
Anyway, i have a question, do yall wander how the hell endo thinks they r going to make another Cent from this medication? The price is the same (very expensive) but the med is absolutely worthless. And im talking about millions of dollars a month they were making. I hope they go bankrupt myself.
And while I am n pain n sick, my heart breaks for the cancer patients n those with worst pain than I. Why does Big pharma not give a damn about human beings?? I just dont get it.
Sorry i rambled on and I pray that everyone gets the relief they need n deserve. God Bless You All!!

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Berky, the first 3 days were the absolute worst. How did I get through it? I really don't know. I guess by just being determined to not want to end up allowing anything at all to control ME....meds should be controlled by the person taking them, not the other way around. I honestly think that from the very beginning that the Opana ER's bio-availability was crappy. I honestly wish that someone would stand up to this Endo Pharmaceutical Company and sue the butts off of them for what they have done to vulnerable, desperate people by making the Opana ER to have such a crappy bio-availability that it took me crushing them up and snorting them to get any pain relief. Now, the people who are still on this medication have no other means to receive any type of pain relief other than abusing them...or that's what the pain pro's call it anyhow!! It upsets me.
Good luck to you Berky, and you are in my prayers. For the first 3 days, I did nothing but throw up and I couldn't eat anything but I did drink ginger ale. I also bought some anti-diarheal to eleviate the diarhea. Luckily, my husband had a prescription for Xanax for some testing that he had done and didn't take it so I had 3 of those to help me out....I cut them in half, so I had 6 and I took 2 for 3 days. I absolutely had to eat something by the 4th day and I ended up eating some toast.
Berky, if you have a valid RX for Opana ER just call your doctor, make an appointment and explain that these new ones do nothing at all for you and explain that you have checked on line and found out that the Oxycodone has a better oral bio-availability. I will be honest in telling you that I was NEVER honest with my pain management doctor about my abusing the Opana ER's and the addiction to them. I went cold turkey, but I would never advise anyone else to do it. I wondered if I was going to die through this. The only reason that I wanted to go cold turkey was because of my high tolerance, but looking back, I wish that I would have gone to the doctor and done what I gave you the advice to do.
Good luck to you and you are in my prayers.

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Hey dear how long did your sickness last? How did you get threw it cold turkey?

sincerly,
Desperate to get off opana

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Les, I know for a fact that this works. I am prescribed 20 mg of them 2 x a day. And I am only using 20 mg total in a whole day. I, like you, tried everything that there is to try, and it all turned out to be such a huge, "goopy" mess, not to mess the stringiness of the water that any of the Opana was in.. That's why I am doing what I am doing. I know that it sounds like a whole lot of work and a huge mess, but it works. I am fairly young and I am disabled and receive the SSD, but I still have a life to live. Not to mention that I really don't like using the walker that I am supposed to use when the pain is so severe that I can't get up and down and walking. Good luck with this. And if I were you, I would only start off with 20 mg. and then go up from there. These seem to me to be more potent this way. But I took them orally before they changed them. Maybe they seem more potent because the bio-availability is a higher percentage rectally. I truly hope this works for everyone as well as it has worked for me. I can not understand why they changed them to begin with?? I just don't get it. Good luck to you.

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Alisha - are you sure this works? I take 40mg 3x daily, so what do you recommend? I have tried taking 2 at a time and chewing/crushing them and then leaving them under my tongue for about an hour and that does provide some relief, but it's like having gummy bears in your mouth. Why didn't they just leave this medication alone? The original formula worked great, the new one doesn't work at all.

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For everyone who does want to know the method that does work for me. Here it is. Before I begin, I DO NOT take the outer coating off....I think that this is used for absorption.
I want to warn everyone that this is graphic.The first thing to do is to have a pill splitter. I want to warn everyone that these new ER's are more potent than the old ones. If you are prescribed the 20 mg then start with only 10 mg. and if you need more, then wait 30 minutes and see how are feeling.
First, take your pill and cut it in half. Then take the half and half that...this is the best way to describe it: out of 1 pill you should end up with 8 pieces.....4 pieces out of each half of the pill. I suggest that you use an enema before any of these next steps. If you do have any feces, then the medicine will possibly go into it, and then you won't be certain how much medicine you have used or will need to replace.
1st: Use an enema and make sure that you are clean "up there". I suggest that women take some toilet paper and place in vagina so that nothing from the enema would go into the vagina and end up causing a UTI.
2nd: For this step, I use latex gloves and cooking oil for lubrication.I only lubricate the outside of my anus, not the pills. I take 2 of the pieces of the pill at a time and I use my index finger to push them up further into my rectum. And when I have gotten 4 "up there", I take a syringe filled with warm water and go up to the point of where the medication is I push the water in gently while pushing the medication up just a little further. Then I place the last 4 pieces, only 2 at a time, and place them "up there" and repeat what I had done before, with the water. Then, I put 1-2 more syringes of water "up there". After I am done, I wash my genital area with soap and water and also my anus. I lay down for 30 minutes, but you will begin to fill the effects within 15-20 minutes.
At some point, if you need to have a bowel movement, I use something to catch it. I know that this sounds extremely gross, but if you don't use anything to catch this, you will lose all medication. I went to a dollar store and bought a large plastic bowl and I place this between the toilet bowl and toilet seat. When done, you will most definitely see the medication and extract the medication, which increases in size by a large amount. I place the medication in a plastic, throw away cup and I run some water in the cup and then I place my hand over the cup and drain the water out. I repeat this at least twice to make sure that there is nothing on it and it has been my experience that this has never been a messy procedure but my stool isn't loose at all. Of course, I clean the bowl up afterwards and throw away the cup that I have used.
I forgot to mention that I use a syringe that holds saline in it that the nurses use in hospitals. This can give you a rough idea of how much water that I have been using. For those of you who are worried about pain involved with the insertion and size of syringe, this is why I use cooking oil. For some reason there is no pain involved at all....only a little uncomfortable. And of course, remain on your side while doing all of this and remain relaxed.I have used the KY jelly first for lubrication, and found that there was pain involved, and when I tried the cooking oil, there was none.
I am sure that I will receive some "bashing" on here from people who are totally against this method because it isn't by mouth.....but I suffer from severe chronic pain and this works. I am not doing this to get high.
Again, begin using only half of your prescribed dosage of the Opana ER.
Good luck and if anyone has any questions, I will do my best to answer them.

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This is for Alia. I'm in a very similar situation. And you mentioned a pill splitter. Please do elaborate.

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This is for alisha, if u can please let me know the method your talking about... I know what the method is called but if u could let me know the way that it works for u, as by mouth these are no way as effective as the old ones...

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O-pain-a, I completely understand your situation. I, too have been taking Opana ER's for a couple of years myself. I actually tried to use a cheese grater to "crush" it down and it took me a long time and then when I finally snorted it, it just gummed up soooo bad that I blew it out of my nose for a little while, so I can tell you that snorting them is a waste of time. BUT, I did find something that does work and to my surprise, these new ones are actually much stronger than the old Opana's, believe it or not. I am sure that this might gross some of you guys out, but when I have to use my walker to walk, it embarrasses me really bad, so I swallowed my pride, and did what my friend told me to do that works very well. I will not even explain it on here unless I am asked to do so....so if anyone would like to know, I will explain. It does involve placing them rectally and the only thing that you would need to use, is a pill splitter and you do not crush them up. So, if anyone would like to know, just ask me to explain it and I will. I don't want to offend anyone by explaining the whole process, that is why someone on here will have to ask. I'll check back in a little while and then when I wake up in the morning and a couple more times tomorrow. Trust me, it works well and I was surprised that it provides more pain relief than the old Opana ER's and it lasts for a good 8 hours.AOANT

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In all fairness, I wasn't being an a**hole by giving any sort of opinion or judging anyone for asking a question concerning how to crush this new Opana ER. I was only trying to help this individual who was trying to figure out how to crush this new type of Opana ER in hopes of better pain relief, by simply warning this person that it turned into a huge problem for me when I took that route.
I do apologize if I came off to anyone as giving some sort of critical opinion of this persons desperation to control his/her pain relief. I was only trying to help, that's all.

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I'm tired of everyone calling someone an addict just because someone snorts a pill people are really in chronic pain and need relief fast the new opanas just like the oxy are not worth s*** and sometimes the pain is so bad you need to snort just to feel it faster that doesn't mean someone is snorting them all day long and if there is away to do it then of course people are going to try it just so they don't have to deal with the pain and people are saying ask for Roxi most people that get oxy or opanas do get the Roxi the oxy and opanas are for long acting to someone who is sick and has a tolerance your lucky if a roxi will last for 2 to 3 hours and before people judge think about why someone has to take medicine to begin with I have cancer, and broke my back and have rod and screws in my leg from a bad car accident now there are people out there that are junkies which has f***ed everything up for the people that really need it because they want to brag about snorting or banging a pill and think its fun I need the medicine just to get through a day because I am in so much pain so when I see someone talking about wanting to get high it pisses me off because there are so many people out there that need them and I can guarantee most of the people that need to take them wish that they didn't have to because it can destroy your life especially when you can no longer function without them so everyone that really needs them you can thank the JUNKIES that just want to get high for making our life a living HELL when the makers want to keep changing the formula it is so bad with the opanas they are like plastic and people that have stomach problems the pills come out in your Bowels

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I am in so much daily pain just like some of the other few people on here that are not abysses or drug addicts. If you are I would like to punch you in the face and please don't continue reading on. I can't say a lot but I can say that you people should not only make a complaint to the company but you should make a complaint to the FDA. These pills are a joke and they are encased in plastic. They don't WORK at all and I'm talking about those of us who has real chronic pain and talk these thing multiple times a day. The new ones give me zero relief ati all. I read up a lot on this and these new pills have only been tested on animals. They did not human trials. If Endo thought too many drug abusers were dying on their drug they are going to be in for a surprise because more people the ever are going to be overdosing on these pill because they keep taking more and more because the don't effing work. I have even had withdrawal symptoms. This is a dangerous drug. I placed on of my pills in sprit because I knew it had carbon and it would act similar to our stomachs. Three days later the pill is still in their and it is slightly smaller but it is a big glob of clear glue just sitting their in a ball! I was disgusted. I do do they have a generic drug for opana in testing overseas right now. Let's pray that it gets approved soon.

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