Advice Starting Suboxone, ?s (Page 3)

I am about to start Suboxone for the second time. The first time I didn't follow the rules and began taking it before I was in withdrawals. It was awful. I want to do it right this time. They say wait until you are at least in mild withdrawals. That is different for everyone. I am terrified of taking it too early. I am snorting heroin daily. I have weened myself off to just three lines per day. The dope I get isn't good either. My question is do I need to wait until I am a complete mess? Can I start taking it when I just start feeling anxious and restless? Should I be puking. Anyone with advice or personal experience please respond. I have to get it right this time. I have complete faith in this drug. Thanks!

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Hate to break it to u but I miss you:-( can IF COURSE take coke while on suboxone, u can take opiate too, just won't feel them. Anyway, from what ur describing, the attitude change and weird sleep pattern I would say (as a 29 yr old who has been an addict for 15 years, clean now for 4 yrs) ur wife is surely using something and if an addict had drugs on them THEY ARE THEIR DRUGS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!! An addict can't have drugs and not do them, they just can't. So, I'm sorry to say, but ur wife is using! If u need to talk or need advice feel free to email me {edited for privacy} sorry again!

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I switch backand forth from using dope and tajing subs quitw often. as long as I'm dope sick the subs work. i only have to wait like.6 hours but that's bcause i do six or seven bags at once and thsy only last a few hours before withdrawls kick in. just wait till ur nose.starts running ur eyes r tearing and u can't stop yawning n ur gwgting. old sweats and u should be fine

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So here's the deal, I started Suboxone yesterday and was obsessed with trying to figure out exactly how long I had to be in withdrawl before starting.. The last thing in the world I wanted was to go into precipitated w/d.. Here's what I did... Woke up 4am yesterday am, took 5 percocet (5mg) just cause the am is horrible and I know I had to go to work.. I stayed up.. My body is used to taking upto 120 mgs total per day.. I started feeling s***ty about 10 am.. Drank tons of water to flush the opiate. Felt worse and worse all day, I knew that I was def in w/d and my apt was at 4pm.. I started with 4mg of suboxone and it stabilized me instantly... I knew at this point there was no precipitated w/d coming my way... (Thank god) and was examined an hr later by my dr. And given another 2 mg... I instantly felt "NORMAL" no more sick.... Everyone is diff.. If you know it in w/d and your sick, you should be fine, just 12 hours was fine for me... My DOC is and has only ever been percocet..

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You will be fine after 12 hours for sure, if u are having w/d symptoms, that's good enough!!! I waited 12 hrs and was fine, it worked instantly and I was at pretty much the same level of use as you!! Just make sure your nice and uncomfortable when u get there!! I felt like I had the flu and was anxious, and irritable.. That worked for me.. Good luck...

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Your are so wrong on so many levels evrything u said ive done and nothing of what u mentioned happend do not listen to this guy at all....all you need is one 8 mg sub and take a quater of it a day for 4 days and thats it u might feel slight discomfort afterwords but it will be nothing like full blown withdrawels

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10 bags in a day is nothing. Try 20 bags in one dose. For years at a time. Then you know you need suboxone or methadone. And if you think suboxone isn't addictive your so wrong, it's just as addictive as the rest and withdrawls last longer then heroin but are slightly less brutal.

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You people have no idea about how subutex/suboxone works. 1 you don't need to wait anymore than 24 hours to start subs if using heroin. 2 subs are both agonist and antagonist so once you reach a certain dose they effectively block out any other opiate/opiod that you try to use. 3 taking other opiates/opiods while on subs will NOT make you sick, you just won't feel their effects due to the subs blocking properties. 4 subs are not the magic bullet for addicts as you also become dependent on them and after being on subs for a while you will find that coming off them is VERY difficult and extremely long winded, the best you can hope for is to taper down to the smallest amount you can (I'm taking crumbs here; break your pills into small pieces when you want to get off them) but even doing this will cause you to experience classic opiate/opiod withdrawal. Don't believe what the so called medical professionals tell you as they talk out of their arses. 5 subs have an extremely long half life so if you try to use another narcotic drug it will have no effect until the subs start to leave your brain (this can be anywhere from 48 - 96 hours after last sub, but may even take longer depending on your metabolism and the size of your sub habit) in my opinion people should only use subs as a quick detox tool, ie only take them for 1 or 2 weeks maximum and then get off them before you become too dependent, believe me sub withdrawal is no fun and if you stay on them for long you will find out the hardway.

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can you be on seboxin and still do heroin and pass your pee tests? my son is on it but he still acts shady and is glassy eyed at times and out of it

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Your situation & use is exactly my situation as well!!! I am looking to get back on sub tx and am petrified of p.w. Everyone being different & having different results makes finding advice hard!! Is there any surefire way of not experiencing p.w.???

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The last time I try come'n off heriot with subby I wait the 12 hours took 8ml n it never did anything was just as bad as a was now a really want this to work si how long n how much do I need to take I was thinking of starting on 6 ml n want to wait at least 12 to 18 hours can u help plz

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I totally agree about the difference between desire and addiction.
I am an addict in terms of the way i go about my life. I get addicted to routines of control and release with food, TV, study, social life and everything else. So its no surprise that I became dependent on over the counter pain medicine. The thing is, I stayed on the same dose, two tablets every four hours, for 2 years. God knows I wasn't getting high but the addiction beast was fed and quiet for some hours. It eventually spiralled out of control. I take 2 mg suboxone now and I am planning to come off in the next month under the advice of my doctor.

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I've white knuckled it before and I didn't get a good night's sleep for at LEAST two weeks & wasn't feeling remotely good until a month in. I'm not saying it's impossible or that one shouldn't quit-I'm simply saying that help in the form of pharmaceuticals (suboxone! Yay!), counseling, or whatever is a MUCH better route than simply gritting your teeth & hoping. Also, I've started subs/bups a bunch of times & you don't need to give it '24 hours to start- just wait 'til you're sneezing, eyes watering, sweaty, etc.

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