When Can I Start Suboxone After Taking Methadone?
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I'm was hooked on methadone, WHEN CAN I START TAKING SUBOXONE? I tried it after 1 1/2 days and ALMOST DIED! I've was taking 80 mg of methamphetamine for 6 years... I was so sick from taking the suboxone I thought I was going to die!!! Should I wait 2 days. then take the suboxone? (Which I took twice and am scared to death of) I want off of methadose! I can't affort to buy one more pill!!! Will the suboxon work, and if one makes me feel all screwed up (VERY VERY SICK) should I take a second suboxon and when. PLEASE...someone who knows and had got off methadone with suboxone answer me! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!

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Re: fay (# 32) Expand Referenced Message

If ur sister is misusing it then yes. She's gonna look that way.. I have been on it for ten years. Not one dirty urine. No triggers. And most of all NO CRAVINGS. Everybody is different. Stop judging it based on what u see. Do ur damn research on it before u start talking bad about it.

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no its synthetic heroion,my new pew gts it it gives him his fix one zanax he's on heroion,it's a misleading drug my sisters on it she looks like a tweeker

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I had to do the samething before and if u don't wait the 4 day minimum you will be hating life again. Your going to feel bad but its better then taking subs early

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Hi, I've been on methadone for about 10 yrs. Subutex, helps with withdrawing and wheening off of the methadone. Also, some ppl take it as a long time treatment option like they do with methadone.. Everyone body is different.. I personally love the medicine but I'm going to get off it Bcus I have gained SOOOO much weight. Hope it helped

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You should lower your dose down slowly to 30mg and be on that dose for 2 weeks before stopping for 1-3 days and switching to subs. I hope this helps anyone looking to switch. It is how my doc had me do it and it was fine; a little uncomfortable but no major detox.

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I wish you the best on your journey bruh I'm in a methadone program also,I'm on 80mg for 6yrs now and don't plan on stopping at this time it's what has saved me from the streets,and I'm able to take care of my blind mother who is recovering from a stroke so I need this to do what I have to daily for my mom I'm thankful for the drug.

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GOOD I HOPE IT HURTS, I know u feel like your dying, then that pain will remind u to get clean and stay clean.. good luck. Only u can change your life for the better. You f***ed it up and it didn't happen overnight. Rehab is going to be long and painful but in the end it will be worth millions to u if u get clean.

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Simply put...their pissed that you want off..no money frm you kno more means less jingle in their pockets...stop kiddin yourself...they dont give a rats ass.a doc saves your life cause dead people dont needs doctors.

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If you have ever felt this...you would not want to keep it going....to have every muscle in your body jumping tightening and pain shooting thru you adding more DOES NOT FIX IT...IF YOU CAN TAPER DOWN...you can use a quarter of piece for 2 days..then half for 2 then three quarter for 3 days...now your ready for a whole one if you push it in you the pain receptors are gonna whoop in you...THIS IS A WARNING...I DON'T LIKE HEARING I WAS RIGHT... CAUSE I KNOW YOU JUST PUT YOUR SELF THRU HELL...IF YOU CAN GET A FEW PERKS TO TIDE YOU THRU THAT 72 HRS ALL THE BETTER FOR YOU....THE PERKS AND STRIP GET ALONE FAIRLY WELL....BUT REMEMBER...EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT.

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See..i dont get that...the laws should enforce a step down plan to get you back off....maybe people need to unite and file claims thru your goveners office or maybe a lawer that sues over bad drugs...never kno till its tryed.

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Once you've already taken suboxone You may as well take more because of the narcan has taken its toll. You're not going to get any sicker you're just going to get better Once the market has cleared your receptors You need to fill ithem up with bupenorphine. So 45 minutes to an hour you can take more no problem I did. Good luck

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Wait till ur in wd then try small piece. ..work it in u slow...or it will throw u into seveare withdrawl.weird i kno but thats how it wrks

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I'm on same ride. 80mg methadone to suboxan. DEA shut down my Dr. Anyhow, I took the Subs too soon. You really need to taper down to 40 or 30 mg of the dones though. I quit completely used heroin to help then vicodin. 4 days is unrealistic to wait to try another dose of Sub. I've been off methadone 8 days heroin 3 days vicodine 2r hrs and I tried subs again today and WAHLAH!!! It flipped did not put me into an exorcism this time, and it took all my demons away in a matter of 20 min. You should be ok to take nust after 48 hrs of your last methadone intake. 72 if your real tough. But that's an eternity. LISTEN IMPORTANT!!!! You need Subutex!!! It's Suboxane without the methadone blockers and can be ingested immediately, with no threat of prejackulated detox that suboxane is famous for. People coming of dones should use Subutex NOT suboxane only the Dr don't even understand this yet.

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I'm in EXACT same boat. 80mgs methadone for 8yrs. But 5mg for 20 hrs. Yeas, 1 day and half is way to soon for you to take subs my poor friend. Try some vicodine or other shorter lasting opiate to give you relief from Methadone. Methadone has what's called a half-life and half of it leaves you in 3-7days, than another half, and so on until it's gone. But after 70hrs you should be ok to take subs. If they make you detox sick again, try a handful of vicodin, it gets up over the Sub blockers and makes u feel better, and take subs about 18 hrs after u eat a vicodine. It's not an easy road, but a necessary one. You should have subutex, not suboxane. Subutex is Soboxane without the chemicals that makes methadone users sick. Drs dont know this yet not enough people comen off methadone for them to discover it.

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You have to wait until you are in complete withdrawal which is usually three days after your last dose...

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You have to get your dose down below 30 milligrams and be stable. I did it and didn't wait at all just went straight to Suboxone. The first day was pretty rough. You simply can't cheat the pure Narcotic antagonist effects of Naloxone. It's just that simple. So what you have to do is take enough Bupenorphine to combat those effects and get you back to normal. I ended up taking 24milligrams of Bupenorphine the 1st day. Simply put, the Naloxone replaces the opiate in your brains receptors almost immediately upon taking Suboxone, then the Bupenorphine in Suboxone replaces the Naloxone and you begin to come out of withdraw. Taking more Naloxone will not push the Bupenorphine out of your brains receptors so, the more you Suboxone you take on the 1st day the better you will feel. But please be careful. You don't want to take too much. I think they should prescribe a mild benzodiazepine for the first 3 days of treatment to smooth out the edges, but that's just me. I doubt you would find a doctor to think outside the box like that (not many anyway). I also think if you're on Methadone you should go to Subutex and not Suboxone. Subutex doesn't have the antagonist. Also, Suboxone isn't going to give you as much euphoria as other opiates will so don't expect too much from it. This is the trick behind Suboxone. Less euphoria in turn means less dysphoria which is why it's easier to come off of Bupenorphine than other opiates. I had about 18 pills the first time I used it and weened myself down over about a 3 week period until I was only taking 2mg at the end. My first day drug free I felt like I had never been an addict a day in my life. I felt great. If you use Suboxone as a maintenance drug then you will become addicted to it too eventually. It works very well in the short term but...to each his own. :) At any rate my friend I wish you the best and if I can help somehow just hit me back.

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?True story? Beginning in 2009 after running out of Methadone (which i'd been getting from ppl, never was prescribed) and it becoming harder and harder for me to get my hands on. I went about 3 or 4 days and was in a living hell!!! So I left work and went to a local Dr. that participated in the Suboxone program and after he observed my state of extreme withdrawals he told me I was a prime candidate for the program and immediately got me started (which is very expensive) That day, after filling out several pages of paperwork telling my life history, he wrote me a script for 1 Sub 8mg tablet and told me to go to the pharmacy and get it filled then comeyou mediately back to his office w/ it So I did and after coming back to his office, he explains to me how to put it under my tongue and I immediately felt euphoria (only way to explain it!) I was on top of the world!!! So after an hour or so he observed me again and I explained to him how much better I was feeling he writes me another prescription for a weeks worth (16-8mg tabs..2 per day.. 1 in morn.. 1 in eve.) And tells me I'm to report back to him in a week. I done all I was told. The sub's was working out great for me! After a week I went back and he started me on my monthly scripts which was 2-8mg tablets per day... 60 per month. As of today 8/24/2014 I've not touched or even had the urge to take anything other than the sub's since 2009. ?**BUT THERE'S A DOWNSIDE TO THE SUB'S THAT IVE BEEN ON FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS!!! YOU WILL BECOME HIGHLY ADDICTED TO THEM AND THEIR WITHDRAWALS ARE WAAAAAAAY WORSE THAN ANY OTHER I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED, recently the Dr. that had turned me into a highly addicted sub addict over the past 5 yrs dismissed from the from the program because they said my urine wasn't the correct temp or something to that affect.. (NOTICE: AFTER 5 YRS OF PASSING EVERY UA WHICH IS REQUIRED EA MO. WHILE ON SUB PROGRAM) although a couple of times random oddities would come up but was always cleared after it was sent off to the lab which they do each time, and even the nurses administering the UA's told me their cups were cheap and the temp strips on them was often messed up and displayed wrong temps and stuff quite often, I EVEN TOLD THESE I*****S, LOOK YOU CAN TAKE MY BLOOD, STAND IN THE RESTROOM WITH ME AND WATCH ME URINATE OR WHATEVER IT TOOK TO SATISFY THEIR CURIOSITY!!! BOTTOM LINE.. THEY WOULD NOT BUDGE!!! NO WAY, NO HOW, KICKED ME OUT OF THE PROGRAM, OFF SUBOXONE COLD TURKEY AFTER 5 STRAIGHT YEARS!!! TALK ABOUT SOME COLD HEARTED PIECES OF S***!!! so now I'm taking it one day at a time.. Finding a couple here and there on the street whatever.. Good days then VERY bad days!!! Its been a rough experience and where I live there's waiting lists at every other Dr office that prescribes Suboxone so its not like u can just go jump right into another program.. Plus I've heard that once 1 Dr. Kicks u out of the program, your name goes on a list and you can never be prescribed them legally again.. So being on Suboxone definitely has good points.. But also some VERY BAD ONES!!! STAY AWAY FROM COOPER FAMILY MEDICAL CENTER IN PASCAGOULA MISSISSIPPI AND KEVIN COOPER MD IS GOOD FOR NOTHING.

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You must be in the beginning of withdrawals before you can take suboxon. otherwise you will go into a nasty full blown withdrawal.

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Wait 72 hours at least. Don't take any more if u start feeling like crap after taking the sub. What sense does that make? If u ask a dr they will try to send you to detox before they give u the suboxone

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You have to be clean off of methadone for 72 hours before starting suboxone. Also you are not supposed to mix it with any benzodiazepines. It could kill you. I know some people that do mix it but they are playing russian rullette with their lifes... That's the information that I got from a methadone clinic not long ago from the Dr that runs the clinic... That's what is also in the pamphlet they give to you... I hope this helps... Please don't play around with these strong drugs... I don't want to hear of another person passed away because they were not informed correctly... If you have a methadone clinic in your area you can call them or go see them and they will give you all the correct answers... I hope you get well soon... I'm in your shoes right now but under different circumstances...

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