Using Fentanyl To Get Off Methadone (Page 2)
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I have been on Methadone for about 5 years. I had an addiction to oxycontin and the went on methadone to quit. My highest dose was 120mg and I have managed to wean myself down to 17mg. The problem is I am having a really hard time getting off of it. Doing some reading I have learned that methadone is one of the worst for trying to quit.

I have a perscription for 12mcg/h fentanyl for back pain which I havent been using but was thinking about quiting the methadone and using the patch instead so when I eventually drop it the withdraws won't be as bad.

Has anyone tried this?
is 12mcg enough?
Any other thoughts or advice?

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I think it is possibly a bit low on the dose side,but you are on a low methadone dose. {edited for safety} You need to wear them for 72 hours then change. It will take a month to 6 weeks before the worst methadone withdrawal symptoms are over,however you may feel very sluggish for up to 6 months.

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I am going through the same thing. Got up to 160mg of methadone down to 80mg then my doctor split town got divorced and left pattients hanging. I am having bad dt's waiting to find a doc but have 12mcg fentanyl patches too. Did it help your symptoms? I am truthfully scared and trying to find a doctor to get off it all or get my back/neck fixed surgically. My question, did this work for you?
Thank you.

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When I went thru methadone withdrawal, it was the worst. The first time, someone narc'd on me for dr. shopping so I was cut off cold turkey for about 2 weeks and was still going thru hell. Then I found a doc. But the 2nd time...my doc wanted me on suboxone and I had no idea what it was. Apparently neither did he. He told me to stop taking my methadone on Friday and come see him on monday. I did, and he gave me an 8 mg suboxone, which I put under my tongue and immediately went into straight up unbelievable withdrawals! I had convulsions so bad I knocked my 2 front teeth out. I took off all my clothes off and walked through his office....I s*** in his trash cans. I would NEVER do anything like this normally - NEVER and was so embarrassed later. But he almost killed me. But hey ...I got free from methadone and I'm so glad. Now I've got other problems, like fentanyl. I'm new to this drug and am taking it as directed. I need to say tho - I was taking 10 - 15, 10 mg of methadone daily for years when all that went down. Just be careful and good luck!!!

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Want to go from 100th Fenton all to methadone because it no longer working.wen 100th to to 14 ml methadon. Now cut to 50 and haven't increased method on having sweats and cramps and morepain

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You really need a higher dose to keep you from withdrawls,I learned that the hard way.

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You have no clue buddy fentanyl is the second most powerful drug on the market. It accounts for the most accidental, first time deaths. It's all in how you administer it. My father has been using it for anesthesia for 30 plus years. I can't remember the name on the strongest... it's like 10 time stronger then fentanyl. He know more about it than any of us op-heads, lol! Do you just make you info up/guess? This can be some deadly s***. Don't give deadly advice, especially when you don't understand the drug!!!

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You still around?I hope so... Is that a true story u told about using fent to get off methadone? I'm currently at 20mg of methadone for a little over 4 yrs. I have patches. And want to do anything it takes to get off methadone. I just want to limit my withdrawals as much as possible. I can't and do not want to lose my job. Thanks in advance for any help u may be able to give. J

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I think y'all are crazy to use fentanyl to get off methadone....I've been on both and detoxed from both and I thought I was gonna die when I detoxed off the fentanyl....I went cold turkey and by the second day ended up in the hospital...I took the methadone after that and cut a quarter pill off every month...it was painful but easily manageable.....the fentanyl on the other hand....that was pure hell....and I know pain! I would never again use fentanyl to get off anything! It is truly probably the most completely painfully miserable I have ever been trying to go without....if a person truly has no pain and wants to get off then clonodine is a great withdrawal symptom blocker, and methadone for one who genuinely has pain or just needs to go down nice and slow...but of the two I pick methadone anyday!

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Hey guys. So, I take 160 mgs methadone a day. Im ending up short © end of month(2 days). If I put a 100 mcg/h 72 hr(16.8mg) fentanyl patch on, will that cover me for 2 days of not having my methadone? Thank u !

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hey mike.. do you still get the fentanyl patches ?? i'd like to talk to you more if you do.. just post again on this forum... thkx

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linda, email me @ {edited for privacy} no spaces

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I am in an awful position. I need Fentanyl regularly for pain - alot of severe pain (MS related). However, I cannot always afford the high cost of Fentanyl. Yes even on a drug program it can cost quite a bit. Anyone know how or where I can get supply at a relatively less cost? I am in Sarnia area.
Thanks!

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mike...please do not listen to a word daniel says....he is the devil methadone..there is not one piece of advise that makes sense....just think about it

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Chemist

email me at n i c h e 2 3 @ g m a i l . no spaces

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First in my last post, i was on 400mg of methadone and 240 roxycodone. my opiod tollence is a was amazing.I was able to kick methadone at 60 mg. so your at 12mgs NOW you have 2 ways of doing this
First Cold turkey. IF you want to know true hell then go this way. OH you could try to join a club, ride your bike wtf!!!!!! thats if you dont fall off the fu**ing thing because your puking and having the worst flu sym of your life. klonipan is your best benzo for taking the edge off, now TRY the lowest 12mcg for 30 days that will
take the methadone detox problem away. So now your TRUE DEVIL drug methadone withdraw will be gone. you still need to taper off the opiates still in your body.Thats where something like norco,vicodin will finish off the problem of any withdraw because you can get a pill spliter and as you taper off this weak drug, your body will crave less and less as you almost ready to make the move to zero opiates have some .5 zanax to take the edge off ALSO RESTROL 15MG FOR SLEEP ONLY. SEE WITH METHADONE YOU NEED TO JUST KEEP LOWING THE opiate TILL ITS GONE WITH OUT HAVING TO DEAL WO ANY WITHDRAW. YOU HAVE THE 12, 25 PATCHES WATCH IN NO TIME WHEN METHADONE IS OUT OF YOUR LIFE THE REST OF WHAT I TOLD YOU WILL BE A WALK IN THE PARK. TRY IT DONT TRY IT. THIS FENTANYL DETOX PROGRAM WORKS. IM LIVING PROOF. GOOD LUCK DONT LET THESE PEOPLE TELL YOU IT DOES NOT WORK OR YOU WILL
BE WORSE OFF. THATS BS DOCTORS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS PROGRAM FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS NOW. NOTHING IS BETTER THEN GETTING OFF THE DEVILS DRUG OF METHADONE!!!

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omg mike! please dont ever cut a fentanyl patch.when you do it will cause the opiod component to be rapidly released into your system.yes unfourtunatly some people do that to get high but it can cause death.also combining any two opiods has its risk but taking methadone and the patch at the same time is a recipie for disaster....especialy if your trying to become addiction free.that was a smart choice asking for the mylan patch!! its always important to make sure your doctor knows all the meds you are taking.just a friendly tip...if your truly attepmting a sober life you shouldnt hold on to that many patchs because of the temptations!oh and one more thing.dont take norco to help with withdrawl symptoms...that is yet another opiate that can cause addiction.good luck

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Hey Mike, where do you live in Canada? I live down near Sarnia and go to the Methadone clinic there. I was also trying to get Fentanyl patches. Is that possibe...to get Methadone and Fentanyl at the same time?

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oh...mike.....i see 17mgs a day sorry.....same thing...slowly dilute to 0 on the last day.........and i forgot 1 major thing...if you can, ( because of a job, or program) smoking marijuana is the miracle drug...it will help with all your ailments...in moderation, of course...ba

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mike...if all you are taking is 1mg per day, it is all physcological now...stop looking at the converters...thats for normal people...you are far from that...i quit methadone 29 years ago, and think of it as poison, like arsonic..as far as the withdrawal feelings, dont sit and do nothing...i worked at a physically taxing job,so when i came home, i was bushed...you must , for the first month, move around..if you have a sedentary job, join a club, ride your bike, just physically exhaust yourself before sleep...thats the key...at rehabs, you just sit around and think all day about how you're feeling ...i think that is wrong, at least where you are, at 1mg a day....i occasionally used valium, not klonopin...thats another of those scary drugs...they are both benzodiazipam's but i find valium to be a cleaner drug, to take off the edge, but not every day...you will see , you will not need it as much as you go along.if you have a partner, let him/her hold it...just one more obstacle for your mind...since i had always been a bad sleeper, like most down drug users, i would recommend trazadone to you...you'll fall asleep in about 30 min, no high, and wake up refreshed...p.s. craving the buzz........thats it exactly....it was so good...but just remember the days and nights you couldn't stay still,i call them the creepies, the sweats ...well you know...you've won already...it is all mind over matter now...and...let all your dr's know you were and are an addict, and cant use narcotics for pain...and once you do that a couple of times...You are one amazing man....ba

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Brooklyn,

thanks for the encouragment, I know it's gonna be tough but you are right, I am 100 percent focused on getting off methadone. How was it when you finally jumped off? Were the withdraws bad? How long did they last? I don't know why I'm so scared of it, when I use the opiate convertor online 1 mg is nothing. If 1 mg of methadone is like taking a half a percocet a day I can't see it being all that bad. Have you managed to stay clean since? I guess that is another fear I have, I have to say I still really enjoy having an opiate buzz once and a while. I just never want to go through this hell ever again!!!

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