Methadone No No No!!!!! (Page 2)

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Methadone is the worst drug and most wicked drug in this entire world. They give it to people like me with pill problems and then you can never get off the stuff. I made the worst mistake of my life going into a Methadone program. The people at these places pretend like they are there for you but they are not. They are there to keep you on this drug that rots away at your mind and body, and they do it well. They want your money. Do you know how cheap liquid methadone is? They milk off your addiction and act like they are doing something good for people like me. I HATE Methadone. I hate what it's doing to me and I HATE that I came in this place for a pill addiction four years ago, at 22, told I had one year and I would be weened off and here I am. I fight with these people all the time about this but they come up with a million excuses for why I should STILL be on this crap. It is going to kill me, just like the other pills, maybe just slower and more agonizing.

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Hey Pat,
I think I'm in worse shape then you think! I got on SUBUTEXT, not suboxone instead and wish i hadn't switched over. Now i hear the subutext is worse to get off of! I didn't know. I hear the W/D can be pretty bad. I am doing the taper with the pills and am feeling pretty good for now but am scared to death worrying about them running out. You know how us addicts hate pain! :-) But not to worry about my going back to the oxyz's! I would get back on the clinic if I see that I can't get through life without something! GOD that sucks! :-) but I'm just being real and know myself! After all these years of being an addict some times I feel doomed. But I've got to start getting a possitive attitude b/c I'm starting to believe that if you think neg, neg things will happen. And if you think poss, poss things will happen! Call me a crazy old lady! Anyway, it is always a pleasure to get your post and so look forward to them. I am so sorry about the baby thing. That just wasn't in the plan for your life I guess. It wasn't in mine either. I'll bet you would have been a wonderful mom b/c I can tell that you have a very caring heart. MY sis hated the mthadone and so did my mom for years b/c I wasn't working the program right back in the 80's. I was still in that junkie state of mind but after loosing 2 fingers from the blood clot and realized that the clot could have gone to my head instead of my fingers, that's what changed me. And my mom supported me on the methadone b/c she saw the change in me. (MY sis lived up north and so just thought that I was cured for life since I'd been off the street drugs for so long and that I could get off the methadone with no problem at all especially after 18 yrs) and had me convinced too! But after the finger thing I was WAY TIRED AND READY! I did have a son when I was 16 and my parents made me put him put for adoption which I think kept me in my addction for many years. The guilt and emptiness were unbearable. Then I got clean on the clinic and a year later my son found me! What a blessing. He was down here in Fl with his wife and I talked to him a lot. Things were great until they split up and I don't know what happened b/c one day he was here and then he was gone and haven't heard a word from him in 5 years! I think he's doing drugs or something. Maybe like mother,like son. I just don't know but it kills me everyday. Things were fine between us so I know it had nothing to do with me. I just wish he'd let me know that he is ok. OK, sorry for bending your ear again! I'm sure you have things to do but will look for your post again soon! God Bless you and keep you and your family safe! And KEEP LOOKING UP^ Grace

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ya, and pat whatever your name is. I think you need to STFU because I have never been a NA or AA follower in my entire life. I find that to be bullsh*t, too! If you can't find one thing that tells you how harmful methadone is to your body then your dense and ignorant. It is THE worst drug to be addicted to and thank you very much I am outta that bull program and have been for 3 months. I'm free.

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methadone is messed up and does mess with you. i would have never ever in my life got on this stupid drug. i would haave been sick for a week, they do just want you money and feed off you stupid addiction its rediculous how about doctors try and actually help there patients instead of killing them slowly and giving them no hope what so ever

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if u r hooked on opana and want to stop methadone will do wonder and i take 120 mgs and i was addictted to opana for 4 yrs

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So am I melynda. I don't care what people say about clinics, counselors, etc. I'm just concerned with MY LIFE.Methadone gave me my life back after 25 years of heroin addiction. I'm on it now for 24 years and will happily be on it forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i too made that mistake of enrolling in a done clinic 3 years ago......this weekend i split my dose in half just to see how "sick" i would get. im on 120 mgs so i only took 60mgs and to tell you something about done is the clinics lie to you about how quickly you can come off the crap...i wasnt a bit sick and they toold me 2% a week would make me sick. i feel lied to tricked into thinking i would never come off but now i know all it would take is 3 to 6 months and i couild be off this crap completly so i feel much better with hope..so hang in there and remember you can quit

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hey my name is chris i have been on methadone for 6 yrs i was on 60mg a day untill about a month now im starting at 15mg tomorrow im not in a clinic i buy it off the street it has been a really rough 6yrs but now it seems like i cant go no less because its really starting to get to me about how long will i go through these DTs i have family that has been on methadone for over 20yrs but they have never quit so thats why i dont know how long the DTs will last

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Ask for lofexine.Its a non addictive,non intoxicating version of subutex.My partner and I cut down from 100 mls to 20 mls in a week.And felt great.You are very lethargic,wake up feeling awful but you sleep.In fact it removes 95% of all withdrawal symptoms.A few aching bones and chills.You will be more than happy to come off the lofexidine. I was on 150 ml. for 18 years.There seems to be very little activity regarding lofexidine (tradename Britlofex) in the states.In Britain it is slowly starting to be introduced,although I've read of addicts demanding it from their uncomprehending drug workers.There are various detox protocols on the manufacturers website,and its expensive(though no more so than subutex)Mind you,you're not exactly blessed with a customer friendly healthcare system.I'm genuinely shocked at what many of you have to go through over there.Anyhow,there is an almost painless solution.Honestly.

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where are you chris

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I always said methadone should only be given to people like me;;long term heroin addicts of 30 years or more. It's done wonders for me.

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I was prescribed this medication and when used responsibly it is a very effective medication. If you feel any "High or Euphoric effects" than you are taking too much! This medication, just like any pain killer will allow you to feel normal, not high. I use the right dosage and it allows me to feel like my energy level comes back to normal, otherwise I feel drained, and must drag myself through the day by pure strength of will. If I take the pills as directed, they help me, without deleterious effects. Thank God, my doctor see's my responsible intent, and due diligence. Without that attitude, the medication will cause issues, relating to irresponsible patients, and their ignorance, regarding the proper use of this material. Any Drug can be abused, it takes a good doctor patient cooperative effort, to make the pain treatment work as intended. I am drop jawed, at some of the comments I have read, most people cannot be responsible, using any drug since they "Think it is supposed to make you feel Great, they are mistaken. And should be removed from any pain control program. They say ignorance is "Bliss", well not from my experience. Good med, Good Patient, Good Doctor= Good results. Have you ever heard of self titration, Patients that are willing to scale the meds to their pain level are Rare these days. I am one of these responsible Patients and I wondered why people had problems, can't trust these other moronic abusers to do anything, except ruin a good thing. We need to make sure these irresponsible patients do not ruin the reputation of any effective pain meds it is unfair to those who will mind their manners.

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Its not hard to get into a clinic...I made one phone call gave basic information and then showed up the next morning at 5:30amet was handed a clipboard with simple health questions and when I turned it in she said it was $14.50 for my dose.....I spoke to a nurse about what drugs
I took and then she suggested I start at 30mgs...all I had was my money and my story....so sorry your wrong

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On my third day of methadone withdrawals and I am dying! I hate feeling like I'm trapped by this drug. I can't take this anymore so I'm gonna try to borrow the money to go to the clinic tomorrow morning. I say borrow because I cant hold a job down. Got degenerative disc disease and now no Dr. will even see me because I've been going there for so long! I have a good track record at the clinic as a matter of fact, I haven't had a dirty u.a. in years. For anything other than mdone that is. I had an appt. to see a doctor in three days but this morning when I called to see if they have received my records, I waz told he won't be takin me as a patient! I wonder what was so BAD that he changed his mind? Did my counselor sabotage me? This makes me wonder!!!

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Anyone that tries to get treatment and says, all I had was money and a story, makes me wonder, what was your point? Were you attempting to discredit all people that use this medication? Would you take this useful medication, away from everyone simply because You don't use it properly? Or maybe it is your opinion that it is the cause of the worlds problems?Hanoj86 should not use this medication, but you are saying that because you haven't the need or the responsible attitude to make good use of it should be banned? Mind your business, be responsible, be honest with yourself, and quit trying to Govern other people through stupid stunts like you described, If this drug is evil than stop using it, take responsiblity for your actions, It works wonders for me and millions of other folks, quit being everyones mother, live and let live. If you want to quit, step your dosage down slowly, don't go "Cold Turkey" That's the worst way to quit, and usually won't work, it will be easy to relapse. I am at 40mg daily and if I needed to stop I would cut my dosage in half, and wait one week while taking 20mg daily. After that it would be 10mg, and one week. At this point, i would cease all dosages. That's how to stop, and it is gradual, and will not be torture for you. Get real and take control of your medications, or they will tend to control you. By the way, you are obviously trying to control other people, start by controlling yourself, and mind your own business.

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This person sounds like he's being pretty honest to me.You can not compare yourself to anyone else.This person sought treatment for his pill addiction and found an even more insidious addiction and has every right to be angry.Maybe your situation was more extreme .I have a child whose mother was on methadone and watching that helpless little girl suffer was the most heartbreaking experience of my entire life.I will never forget it.

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H is a terrible addictive opiate but it is the treatments for it that are even worse and where they are inhuman treatment as addicts perpetuate until death usually with these regimes.

The problem with all western governments is that they are overridingly influenced by the ultra-financially powerful pharmaceutical giants. So much so that they control government policy on hard drug treatments and where of course they supply methadone et al that provides billions of dollars in revenues. But they don't care about the harm that this treatment does and only look at the bottom-line. That is why this maintenance treatment policy goes on infinitum as it creates vast profits for big Pharma. Indeed governments go out to suppress all information concerning a 'cure' for these terrible treatment drugs that enslave addicts for life through dependency. There is no humanity in this form of treatment only profits as addicts spend a lifetime on treatments that are more addictive than the drugs they purportedly try to eradicate. But wouldn't it be good for once that a western government did something out of the ordinary and stopped supporting big Pharma and introduced a 'cure' that is available at a cost of a mere 10% of present treatment regimes. Then addicts would come off hard drugs for good and thereafter lead a normal life in society and give something back. But will a single western government rebel against the powerful pharmaceutical cartel, I very much doubt it as they have our politicians and leaders in their back pocket. That is what is called democracy where big business rules supreme. For an introduction of what is going on and the 'cure' that is available readers should visit - worldinnovationfoundation.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/what-successive-governments-and.html

Unfortunately this is the situation in all western nations and where they protect the interests of big business to the total detriment of their people.

Dr. Hill
Chief Executive
World Innovation Foundation

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Lets see what you have to say 8 years later lady,and when your trying to detox off methdone,oh lady you ain't got a clue,i know what that person is talking about them clinics will tell you anything and everything under the sun to discourage you and keep you there,and before you go running off at the mouth i too was just like you at one time worshipping the devils program, but YOU better do some research on methadone,and do a lot of research on the pros/cons and your gonna see which out weighs,from the lady who given over 40,000 dollars in 8 years to a clinic who every time i talked about starting detox early on in the devils program,and they always had a reason why i shouldn't,but i was the stupid one who kept letting them stop me,so if you want some good advice don't stay to long girly,because remember this the longer your on methadone,the harder it is to get off,and if you are think your street drugs where hard to get off,well you just keep going down that very,very long dark road,oh and one other thing you need to go look at the statistics on how many people successfuly finish the devils program,lols,don't be their fool,i was for over 8 years,i can't even begin to tell you what methadone has done to my body,and your not the exception, you should ask some of your senior dosers how their body feels after years of the devil's promgram NEWBY,oh and so you don't let someone tell you that their was probably reason that the clinic kept telling me it wasn't time for me to leave the program,there was no reason,i did everything i was supposed to do,right down to staying clean,I SHOULD HAVE LISTEN TO OWN BETTER JUDGEMENT, but i can proudly say know after fighting with the clinic,that they drugout over along period of time so they could keep my money coming in,I'm leaving for rehab next week, and in order to go into a rehab and detox off methadone you have to be at a very low dose,so my clinic drug it out as long as they could to punish me for taking my cash flow away,but yet they gave me the excuse of we can only drop you 5 mls a week,and then i would find out that sometimes they weren't even dropping my dose,now i have been taking benzos just to help,and created another problem for my body,oh but let me tell u that they will throw youassout in a minute for non payment without detox,so yeah i could have not gone back,but remember have to be at a certain dose before you can go to rehab,and i already feel like I'm dieing so why would i do that to myself, and i don't want to hear from anyone that they can't do that,every state and clinic is different with their rules and this is michigan!!!!!!'

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Hey bekki how much under weight was your baby when born,oh and how much methadone did they have to start your baby on when born,because of methadone withdrawals,oh and don't lie have some honesty here,because i have been seeing methadone babies born for 8 years,and their not born healthy. Methadone is one of the worst if not the worst to withdrawal off,and i couldn't imagine even with a methadone tapered so called baby detox, I'm sure it doesn't feel any better for these babies then it does for a grown adult that put their self in that situation,and i don't want to here that it was better then being on the street using i have a baby too,and it's called choices and morals and rehab,then after you have your baby then its your. body to do with what you want until then its not just your body,and believe me i know its not easy to stay clean for even 9 months but remember its not just your body for that 9 months and even i knew being a drug addict that any baby would not make that choice

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I am currently in methadone treatment for the second time and I didn't want to come back but it was my only option due to financial and withdraw problems. I had a hard time coming off methadone the first time. I was taking 110 mg for 5 months. My opiate addiction was way worse that time. This time I am at 45mg. and feeling pretty good.

My decision to come back was because I was hurting from withdraw and hurting my family emotionally. I knew this wasn't a long term answer but I figured I could handle it for a year or so. I plan on getting on Suboxone around this time. I know it's not much better but it is a little better and if they find out it is worse, I can always come back to methadone.

I am 49 years old, so I don't have the concerns of a 22 year old, such as quality of life anymore. I do but mine was getting so bad, methadone actually makes it hundreds times better. I do understand the youngun's getting upset but there is a solution and it's Suboxone for now.

I'd recommend Suboxone until they come out with a better solution and I'm sure they'll figure something out. I mean, we don't have many other options if you think about it. We got ourselves in this mess and these are pretty much the only two paths we have to choose at the moment...

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I have been on subutex since 2008 and I read all these stories about how great it is well guess what you are all wrong.I have been on Methadone and wish I could get on now but I am on social security and can not afford it.I am still on my husbands BC/BS and no doctor or takes it The good Doc that put me on took my insurance but the DEA took him out for some bulls*** I am looking to get on a Methadone program because DR 100 a month says I can't take benzo's I might die well I haven't died since 2008.The DR threatened me with it so I am separated from my husband and am going to get medicaid so I can get some help from a decent clinic with good doctors and methadone which on a good dose I can get off the benzo's and I have already come off methadone successfully. Yes it can be done!!!! And all the NA nazi's on here go share about it at a meeting people on here need support!!!!

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