Finding Subutex Dr? (Page 2)
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I am really having a hard time finding a doctor who treats with Subutex and not Suboxone. I have chronic pain syndrome and relief-seeking behavior soon became drug-seeking behavior. My psychiatrist put me on Subutex, and my pain was reduced a little, but I wasn't so much into drug seeking anymore. I was treated for 5 years. Then I moved, and I can't find anyone in Ohio who does this. I might have to move back to Chicago! Any suggestions?

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Chris: I recently read an excellent paper in a medical journal that confirms your statement. (I wish I had kept the link.) The journal article showed that Buprenorphine itself his properties that bind to the receptor site that opioids need to occupy to produce their desired analgesic effect. I believe the study was published by The Association of Nurse Anesthetists.

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GAGELLE: I was on those orange pills too, for about a week. I couldn't even function. Doc switched me to regular Subutex and the horrible stomach issues and headaches subsided. I was already a migraine sufferer, but the Naloxone made them even worse. I am back on tablet Methadone now, and am very gradually decreasing my dose.

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Yes it is true what u r saying...I was on the Orange pills when they first came out...then strips..now zubsolve..I'm allergic to the naloxone in all of them.I swell up so bad can't hardly walk..wish the best for u..this world has become so assumed by drugs it crazy...

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GAGELLE: I found that my headaches from Suboxone were from the naloxone. My doctor immediately switched me to Subutex, without the naloxone, and the headaches got better. BUT...I was already a migraine sufferer when I started bupe, so that may have been a factor as well.

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A very knowledgeable doctor once told me that if you get headaches from Suboxone, it means that your dose is too high. I have had the same problem myself and my headaches were relieved when I gradually cut the dose.

Two other things that helped with my headaches are:

1) Drink 8 glasses of water a day. It helps flush the metabolites out of your body.

2) Try to walk about a half hour each day. It doesn't matter what speed you go. If you can't walk, I have found that riding a recumbent bicycle can be easier on the joints. In any case, regular exercise is essential for general health. It also cleanses the blood and increases G.I. motility. Too many physicians are quick to prescribe drugs to treat symptoms that can be relieved by simple changes in lifestyle.

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CHRIS: I know this is old, but you are misinformed. Whether a person is on Subutex or Suboxone, it does not matter. You can not "continue to take narcotics" even on Subutex. The buprenorphine itself is the drug that keeps you from "abusing narcotics", not the naloxone. The naloxone is only in there to keep people from taking the buprenorphine intravenously. Whether you take Subutex OR Suboxone, you will be thrown into precipitated withdrawals if you take bupe too soon after opioids. Whether the naloxone is in there or not. I always had Subutex, WITHOUT the naloxone, and I found out the hard way that the myth about the naloxone is completely untrue.

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I am looking for a doctor who prescribes subutex not suboxone in or around Indianapolis?? Do you know of any??

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In Chicago?? What was the name of your doc??

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Perhaps I'm wrong and I welcome correction, but I've read that both Subutex and Suboxone are not approved in the US for pain relief. In Europe subutex is used for analgesia and has also been found to be a potent anti-deppressant.

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Doctor that perscribes Subutex. And only subutex in ths state of indiana.. In desperate need of a doctor

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Does he prescribe subutex and Xanax my old Dr use to.

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If you cant hep someone keep your mouth shut

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I have taken both and every time I have taken the suboxone I have had headaches which tells me I can't take naloxone this is a problem because I live in indiana and have heard they only prescribe subutex to women who are with child

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well i personally would rather subutex because its cheaper based on the fact it does not contain naloxone. also, suboxone is DISGUSTING. it taste like on old orange rind peel off the bottom of a dirty shoe, its hard to stomach. subutex it so much easier to keep down because it is just a pill.

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Does anyone know of any doctors in Illinois that prescribes Subutex?? I've been on Subutex for almost 8 years my doctor is retiring and I'm pretty much screwed!!! I had the hardest time finding him and I know how the whole finding a Subutex doctor goes...its a nightmare!!! I can't go to an in patient rehab either!! I'm honestly terrified I don't know what I'm going to do...its horrible being without my medication for days let alone months!!! If anyone knows of any doctors I would so very much appreciate it!!!

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I'm trying to find a doctor that prescribes Subutex in Illinois!!! I've been on Subutex for almost 7 years. My doctor tells me he's retiring recently and I honestly am terrified I had such a hard time even finding him!!! So I don't know what I'm going to do!!! What scares me the most is me being without my medication....its horrible going without for a few days let alone months without it!!! And I can't go to an intake rehab either!!! If anyone knows of any doctors in Illinois it would be so very helpful to me!!!

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You CAN go once a month in PA, however you must go to counseling and it costs same as every 2 weeks. Ex: $80/2wks or $160/monthly. So it really doesn't save you $$ in any way. But that's just my experience.

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I looking for a subutex dr in nc from hickory, charlotte, winston salem area. If anyone knows of one I would be grateful. Thanks so much.

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Need help finding a subutex doctor near clearfield pa.

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I am sure by now you've gotten an answer to your question, but if you are severely allergic to naloxone, and can only be rx'd subutex, then the doctor has to have documentation of your "allergic response" not to be confused with "adverse effects". An allergic response is like anaphylaxis, a severe allergy. A headache, slight raise in bp, and nausea are not allergic responses and are not considered a legitimate reason for being prescribed buprenorphine (subutex) instead of a combo drug. I just went back to my doc's office after being gone for a year. The last time I was there, my doc was rx'ing me four 8 mg Subutex per day for addiction and off-label use for pain for Crohn's disease. In a year, so many new policies had been implemented that even in my case, and being very familiar with him and everyone in the office, the most he could do for me as a new patient was two 8 mg SUBOXONE tabs a day without emergency room documentation, or valid proof of ALLERGIC REACTION documentation, to naloxone. Even severe nausea, raised bp, and severe headache was not considered an allergic reaction. Now, if I were to experience severe enough adverse effects after taking the SUBOXONE tabs he prescribed, I have the option of making an appt, driving all the way there at the time they opened, taking my daily dose in front of someone, wait for two hours, and over the course of two hours, have my bp taken in fifteen minute intervals, vitals, and have a staff member document witnessed side effects after dosing, and only after the doctor has reviewed these symptoms and makes a decision of whether the side effects are severe enough to "deem" you "allergic" to naloxone, will they take in consideration switching the rx to Subutex. Only current patients that were previously rx'd subutex and pregnant women are the ones who get subutex, and that has been the issue everywhere I've inquired about within the last year in PA. It seems to be a trend or a new law or something to decrease the frequency of Subutex rx's, especially in addiction based clinics, because technically, Subutex's intended label use is for treating addiction in pregnant women, lactating women, or others with documented ALLERGIES to naloxone. However, if you are able to find a doctor who is willing to rx Subutex as an OFF-LABEL USE for pain, ANY DOCTOR WITH A RX PAD can write you a script for SUBUTEX for OFF-LABEL USE! ANY DOCTOR! The difference is that Suboxone (bup and naloxone combo drugs) have no off-label uses, not even for pain management. It is strictly for treating addiction! However, Buprenorphine (Subutex) has been proven to show positive reactions in treating patients with moderate to severe pain, but has not been approved by the FDA as an intended use, but can be done so by off-label usage and there is no regulations against doing so. Read up on it at naabt.org under that education tab. So, if you go to an addiction clinic, in PA anyways, and expect to get Subutex, especially with any type of insurance coverage that pays for the pills, your chances of getting it without being pregnant or documentation of allergy to naloxone, are very very grimmmmm especially being a new patient. Sure, there are tons of clinics taking new patients at this time, but only for SUBOXONE scripts! But, if you do, in fact, have as severe an allergy to naloxone as you mentioned, obtaining proven documentation that will ensure you a Subutex script shouldn't be that difficult. Make an appt with a suboxone clinic, even if they say they do not rx tex, tell them that you've had severe allergic reaction to naloxone in the past and that you want set up for an appt to go through the process of documentation, they'll write you a rx for suboxone, you'll go in and do the steps, and once they have seen it with their own eyes, they HAVE to write the script! Good luck!

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