Doriden/glutethimide Availability (Page 7)
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Does anyone know where one could obtain glutethimide or it's brand name Doriden (CIBA Company)? Am in Canada where Doriden was discontinued in late 1980s and I was told Doriden discontinue was international. Perhaps there is now a generic form containing glutethimide available now as I would assume CIBA trademark rights would have by now expired. As the benzodiazapine replacement meds for Doriden are more addictive and dangerous (especially if mixing with alcohol & other drugs) it sure would be great to be able to go back to Doriden or glutethimide which were more effective and safer. A shame that the public was switched over to benzodiazipines (i.e. lorazapam, diazapam) when a better/safer product was available all in the name of profits and economics. Any help out there is most appreciated.
Re: Dusan (# 11)
Really, in the Tardyl combination or 500 mg Glutethimide tablets? I will contact a travel agent to book a flight to Budapest as soon as possible.
Re: Joseph (# 10)
Sorry for my English but in Hungary, Romania it's still available. Be kind and don't write bulls***.
Like I stated previously, no Glutethimide is manufactured anywhere, sadly the DEA practically forced the last manufacturer in the US, Halsey Drug, who made the HD 550 tablets, to discontinue them. There was practically no legitimate use of Doriden by that time. The Benzo family of drugs superseded the use of Doriden, Noludar, Quaalude, Tuinal, etc... I too used Doriden and Codeine combination for about ten years, they were known as "Cibas and Codeine" in my area of New Jersey. Ciba manufactured Doriden in the beginning, in fact they synthesized it, and the tablets were stamped CIBA on them. They were very euphoric, blissful and long-lasting. I still dream about those days. They made you feel like you loved everyone, and everyone loved you. They also made you very social and talkative, when you were able to talk that is. And like I said before, they were used in a few eastern European countries until the early 2000's. Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. The Glutethimide induced a liver enzyme that made the Codeine convert into 80 to 90% morphine instead of the usual 10%, then combined with the sedative-hypnotic effect of the Glutethimide and you had something special. There must be someone, somewhere with an old bottle of Doriden in their medicine cabinet. If kept cool and out of the light they can remain effective for quite a few years.
Re: Patrice (# 8)
Yes Patrice, Doriden could be lethal. As for the Benzo family, the only way they can be lethal is if you choked on the pill trying to swallow it. I still have dreams about them occasionally. If you want to talk further about the chemistry of the interaction of Doriden with Codeine you can write me back.
Re: Joseph (# 1)
Yes Joseph, we called them loads. They almost felt like life’s and even though I loved that stuff back in the day I’m grateful they are gone. I’m not sure where the OP got that Doridens are safer than Benzos. That would be funny if it wasn’t so scary.
I had a few friends die because they fell asleep and drowned in their own vomit.
Yes I know Doriden (Glutethimide) was a good med but like I said they are not manufactured anywhere by any Pharmaceuticals company. Use of Doriden with Codeine was big in my area of NJ. Ciba manufactured Doriden at one time and the tablets were stamped CIBA on them. Anyway, together they produced a very long lasting euphoric blissful peaceful warm feeling type of effect somewhat comparable to opiates but much better. In the US the DEA practically forced the few manufacturers of Doriden (Halsey was one maker of generic Glutethimide) to cease and discontinue making them, that was in '93. They were available in Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria up until 2006, but couldn't be exported to any other countries. I think they were made by a company called Terapia Pharmaceuticals over there. Doriden was also available in them countries in combination with Amobarbital and Promethazine in a medication called Tardyl, used for insomnia. If that couldn't put you to sleep I don't know what else could. It contained 125mg of Doriden (Glutethimide), 50mg Amobarbital and I think 25mg Promethazine. A little overkill in my opinion. Like I said, finding some Doriden today would be like finding the holy grail. It's a dream of mine, but probably won't come true. To anyone who wants to learn more about how it worked I can explain in further detail. It has something to do with a liver enzyme that induces the codeine to convert to eighty to ninety percent morphine instead of the usual ten percent conversion. That combined with the sedative hypnotic effect of the Doriden made for something that was really special, to me anyway. Thank you.
love love love!!! I was devastated when I heard they were going kaput!!! Would love to get my hands on em now!!! Willing to pay high cost!!!!!
They were also called 'loads'. Or Dores and 4's. Extremely addictive and consisted of one Doriden and two #4 codeine. It was great for pain relief.
No Glutethimide is currently manufactured anywhere in the world. Yes I am well aware of the Doriden/Codeine combination, it was pretty pleasant and euphoric. But as far as finding Doriden it would be like finding the holy Grail.
Was one of my favorites! Just spoke with a girl who said her sister gets Doriden and is adamant about it, but I still have my doubts....She could be mistaken. I'm in Erie, PA where the combination was once very popular...The most common name for them were "Sets".
Doriden (glutethimide) is discontinued worldwide. The US banned it in '93 because of the abuse of it together with codeine which produced a strong euphoric opiate type effect. They were known as "hits" on the street, a "one on one" which was one Doriden and one codeine # 4.
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