Big Pharma's Lockdown On Legitimate Chronic Pain Patients (Page 38)

Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?

Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?

Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?

Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.

Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.

The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.

While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.

In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.

What will you do?

Warm regards to all who face life's challenges head on.

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madashell (# 735) --

You have posted YOUR OPINION and not LAW. If you don’t like the laws as written then elect politicians that will make laws that you like and change the ones you don’t. Right now, remember the words of obamler after he was coronated. “Elections have consequences and we won”.

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Re: madashell (# 739)

You have a point there....Congress is now passing a bill to the Senate to ban Kratom... something that's been used for 1000s of years and a member of the coffee family... because big pharma can't patent the tree and make money on it they have lobbied it to get banned under a feseacious bill... it's helped many I know with anxiety... Messed up... It hasn't killed anyone, but the FDA says it's dangerous. Look at Jeff sessions, he tells people cannabis is 10 times more dangerous than Heroin... Stop the crap from coming in our borders like they were screaming in the 1970s, but here we are in Afghanistan protecting the poppy fields... The DEA has already taken care of the Drs. that were on the take...leave us the hell alone now fed.

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Re: W john (# 741)

Look whos getting political now? Don't you ever get tired of yelling at people and cussing them out? We won??? Big fffffnnnnn deal... The other side wins every 4 - 6 years... Grow up Johny, this thread and others like it are people's thoughts and experiences. It's not always about you ok. Now go do your disect on his post... Whatever...

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Re: Roro (# 736)

Not really.. they make you sign a waiver for your test and your insurance card you gave them pays for it .. as for the job.. they tell you up front I guess..

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Re: C (# 743)

And they posted signs telling who was allowed to drink from which fountain and where to sit on the bus and which restaurants you could go in.... Just because there is a notification or a signed under duress agreement (you dont sign you dont get help) does not take away the fact that it is wrong...

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Re: C (# 742)

I NEVER get tired of posting about OPINIONS that are posted as FACTS. I will dissect his post today as I get time. If you don't like the LAWS and way things are now then vote in people who are on your side and will make or reverse laws that you don't like. Until then, the LAWS are what the LAWS are whether you like them or disagree with them. When you post OPINIONS as FACTS you will get called out whether YOU like it or not.

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Re: W john (# 741)

I can back my s*** up, can you?

The decision today, Vernonia School District v. Acton, No. 94-590, left five decisions remaining for the announcement on Thursday, which Chief Justice Rehnquist said today would be the final day of the 1994-95 term.

The school system in Vernonia, a small logging town of 3,000 people, adopted the program in 1989 to combat what school officials said was a growing drug and discipline problem led by student-athletes.

Vernonia School District 47J v. Acton, 515 U.S. 646 (1995) was a U.S. Supreme Court decision which upheld the constitutionality of a random drug testing regimen implemented by the local public schools in Vernonia, Oregon.

You know John, I think you're a miserable lonely person, who enjoys trying to put others down because it makes you feel good.

I pity you...

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Re: w john (# 733)

Why are you even on this website? Are you in pain like the rest of us? Are you trying to inform, console, help, comfort and generally do good? Why are you here?

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Re: w john (# 731)

The same could be said for you. I am getting the feeling your just a little troll with nothing better to do but try to cause trouble. I pity you...

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madashell (# 745) --

You post your OPINIONS and then you think that anyone that reads your tripe is supposed to accept it as FACT. It is NOT FACT(S). It is YOUR OPINION.

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Re: madashell (# 740)

Ok, here goes. YOU posted a long list of OPINIONS that are NOT supported by FACTS. I guess it is time to dissect your nonsense: (1). YES marijuana is currently classified as a Schedule 1 drug. THAT IS THE LAW AND HOW IT IS WRITTEN. You may not like it but you are free to not like a LAW but that doesn't change the LAW. Legislators are empowered to write OR change laws. If you don't like them then vote in politicians that will change the LAWS or rules to your liking. BTW, these LAWS were written way before any Republican administration came along. They were written and they can be changed. Until then they are what they are whether you agree with them or not. There is not ONE SCINTILLA of CREDIBLE evidence that marijuana helps or corrects any of the maladies you state. Just because someone SAYS IT does not make it FACTS. Don't quote me any so called "studies" that YOU claim support your OPINION. Every so called report was written by or for marijuana advocates. They start with a position and then they write a finding that allegedly "supports" the position that they started out with. You state that the DEA and Conservative lawmakers "have tried to block legislation to pass medical marijuana laws". IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT CHANGE THE LAW. VOTE IN DIFFERENT POLITICIANS. IF NOT THEN YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.

Personally, I am glad that the laws promoting marijuana are being opposed. However, if they are changed then I will accept it. YOU are LYING when you say that "IN STATES WHERE MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL THE DEA ALONG WITH YOUR CITY AND COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CONTINUE TO RAID MARIJUANA BUSINESSES AND ARREST "PATIENTS" AND LEGAL MARIJUANA GROWERS". If these people are involved in LEGAL activities they will not be arrested. BIG NEWS FLASH!! If you possess any drugs that are illegal in your State or jurisdiction and you are caught with them you WILL be arrested. THAT IS THE LAW. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT CHANGE THE LAW. Yes, marijuana is still considered ILLEGAL according to Federal Law even in States where it has been voted in. WHY? There is a thing in the CONSTITUTION called the Supremacy Clause which is supposed to stop any State from passing a law that goes against a Federal Law. King obamler told people in the Federal law enforcement agencies to NOT prosecute these people. I was hoping that President Trump would over turn this illegal act by obamler but, so far, he has not. He is allowing cases to go through the Court systems. President Trump could close all of the retail and medical marijuana sites down by his say so but he has not done it.

Let's see what the Courts have to say. REASONABLE people will abide by the law or elect politicians that will support their position. Until the ruling is handed down then it is what it is. If you don't agree with it TOUGH! (2) Drug testing by employers. AGAIN, this is something you don't like and agree with. Employers tell their potential employees that drug testing will be done before and during their employment. If you don't like it then don't apply there. EVERY TIME an employee has a workmen's compensation claim for an accident the medical Office that you are referred to does a drug test first thing. You don't like it? Then quit and find another job.I have told any potential employer about what I am PRESCRIBED to take. I have never been discriminated against EVER. AFTER revealing my PRESCRIBED drugs I was still hired. There may be certain jobs where an employer does not want any drug use legal or otherwise going on. A truck driving job would be a good example. I do NOT want anyone driving high on ANY SUBSTANCE while operating my equipment. I worked for an employer that had a zero tolerance on illegal drugs. They could test you unannounced for any reason. They told you this in advance. AGAIN, if you disagree with their policies then either don't accept the job in the first place or quit and go someplace else.

In one City they refuse to hire anyone that smokes CIGARETTES AT ANY TIME ON OR OFF THE JOB. You are told this and if you do not want the job then go someplace else. Btw, don't post back that this illegal because it has been tested in Court and upheld as LEGAL. There are jobs available that has less restrictive drug policies. Go find one of those and quit whining and complaining about an employers LEGAL position. (3) You answered your own whine by saying that the law you are complaining about was UPHELD by the United States Supreme Court. THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN ELECT PEOPLE THAT WILL ENACT LAWS THAT YOU LIKE. (You skip from #3 to #5). (5) Unemployment is NOT denied because you are "suspected" of drug use. YOU are LYING here. You have to be tested and PROVEN that there are drugs in your system. Also, if you are receiving public assistance then you should have no problem with drug testing. You are NOT going to take my money and spend it on marijuana, methamphetamine, and the like. I say GOOD. Test these drug addicts and get them off of the welfare rolls if they are spending "free" money on illicit activities. If you receive welfare you do not have any RIGHT to spend this welfare/food stamps on ILLEGAL DRUGS. What kind of idiot would say THAT is okay? The LAWS and RULES were made and they can be changed. There is no CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to welfare as you assert. (6). Cold medicines have been proven to be key ingredients of methamphetamine production that is why they have been restricted. THAT is the LAW/RULE. If you don't like it then get the LAW/RULE changed.

(7) A DEA registration number is required to write prescriptions for prescribed medication. IF a Doctor is over-prescribing a medication then they should be visited. (8) Doctors are controlled by law about how many and how much they can prescribe at one time of medications. AGAIN, IT IS THE LAW. DON'T WHINE ABOUT IT, WORK TO CHANGE IT. (9) Fedex and UPS is used by criminals to ship illegal and legal drugs. If you are shipping an illegal substance and you get caught then GREAT. ONLY criminals and their supporters would whine about HOW a criminal or illegal activity is discovered. If you are committing illegal acts and get caught then GOOD. Seized properties are AGAIN written into law. If you don't like it, TOUGH. If curtailing "the liberty and privacy of the American people" is used to catch and prosecute criminals then again I say GOOD!

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Re: madashell (# 748)

Currently, I am putting MY MONEY where my mouth is. I am paying out of my own pocket to challenge in Court a ruling by my health insurance company that is denying me (and others) needed medications because it is not on their "list" of approved medications. At least I am spending my own money to hopefully over turn this where it will work in the best interests of any people similarly situated.

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Re: madashell (# 747)

You feel so put down and oppressed because you do not like the LAW(S) as written. This world needs more ACTIVE people!

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Re: C (# 742)

So True, but they won't leave us alone until they have complete control and or we're dead and gone. I wonder what those in charge will do when they need something stronger than aspirin? Do they have access? Does their doctor? How? I've a friend just out of the hospital with a broken neck. He received a script for three days of pain medicine.... scary.

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Re: w john (# 753)

Hi Everyone. It really upsets me to read the personal attacks and insults on this site. I think we are all extremely upset over the changes that are happening so quickly regarding pain meds for patients with medical conditions that need prescriptions. Please let’s try to work together to achieve our common goal. Suggestions are great but tearing apart other people that are hurting too accomplishes nothing. I am surprised there is no moderator that rejects posts that are antagonistic to others.

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Re: w john (# 751)

You quote the supremacy law of the constitution ...... i quote the line that says thfederal govt recieves its power from the constitution and ANY powers not givin to the federal govt are givin to the states and/or the people ........... show me ANYWHER IN THE CONSTITUTION that deligate any type of drug control and/or the power to distinguish which drugs and/or plants are legal to grow pocess and/or partake of. The federal govt has become addicted to the infringment of the rights of the people because of the permisivness of letting the federal govt overstepping their delicated powers..... not only in medicine but in almost every aspect of daily life ..... just because notification of an unjust rule is givin or even upheld in a court does not make it constitutional. Many rules were written published upheld in court about policy towards woman minorities in the past and yet they have been shot down as unconstitutional.............BUT THIS IS GETTING A BIT OF TRACK THERE IS NO NEED TO CALL NAMES AND BULLY OTHER POSTERS .. BEING A BULLY TAKES A LOT AWAY FROM WHATEVER POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE no one likes or likes to be bullied........ THIS IS FOR ALL TO REALIZE

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Roro (# 755) --

ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG!! The Supremacy Clause comes into effect when a law or rule is codified into Federal Law by the Legislature or the governing body that has lawful authorization to codify a law/rule into law or rules. Because you disagree with them does not make it so. The President of the United States is sworn to uphold the LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. This includes EVERY LAW. NOT just the one(s) he agrees or disagrees with. Obamler did what he wanted to, not what was legal.

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Re: C (# 742)

I am not eyeing at people unless they post stupidity. Well, look who is running the Country now and doing a good job I might add. Whenever I call out anyone it is because reasoning does not work. Their ideology gets in the way. People like YOU think things should be the way you want them to be. NOT the way they are. You will never change your ideology no matter how many facts you are given. That is why I really don’t care if you like the tone of my posts or not.

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Re: Roro (# 756)

I was getting ready to reply that as well. Yelling in all caps and put downs completely take away from your argument. It's a huge turn off and people tend to care much less about what you're trying to say if you're saying it was attitude and anger.

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Re: w john (# 751)

"You are NOT going to take my money and spend it on marijuana, methamphetamine, and the like." Take a breath for a moment, I respectfully suggest you might want to calm down just a little bit. Comparing marijuana to methamphetamine? Seriously??? I'm relatively agnostic on the topic, as in I don't use any "recreational" drugs, nor do I even drink alcohol (have been clean and sober for well over a quarter century). However... trying to lump cannabis, whether for medicinal or recreational use, into the same equivalent category as methamphetamine, or heroin (which is still the DEA's "official" position), is bizarre, and fantastically inaccurate. My best interpretation of this bizarrely out of sync with reality assessment is that maintaining this archaic cannabis enforcement policy has much more to do with protecting certain political interests, and maintaining a ready source of revenue for various law enforcement interests, than anything to do with the actual reality of the circumstance.

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