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Someone told me that as of July 1,2015 if u were being prescribed subutex that unless u were pregnant u would have to be put on suboxone

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The new law states a patient must be pregnant, nursing, or have a DOCUMENTED hypersensitivity reaction to naloxone..ie, copy of the report from the emergency room..Generally side effects like headaches, stomach upset, dizziness are related to a dosage that is too high or other opiates haven't completely cleared your system yet, and will pass over a week to 10 days. There are also other meds that can be prescribed to get rid of nausea...Best wishes in recovery!!

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It's legal alright. Check your state pharmacy board's website. Pharmacists can ask for and receive your diagnosis, dx code PLUS a history of the illness from the Dr before they have to fill a script. The pharmacist can lie to you about whether they have enough medicine to fill your script in stock of they don't like what you're wearing or the scent you spritzed on that mornin.

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This is absolutely NOT true. In the states of KY, WV and OH, I believe, a state law has been passed that is similar, but on a national level, no such law exists. I am a 36 year old male, am not pregnant or breastfeeding, and have no documented sensitivity or allergy to naloxone, yet I am precribed 20mgs per day of generic subutex from a MA doctor, which I fill at a NH pharmacy. If this were true, MA is one of the more tightly regulated states regarding RX drugs and I would have found out by now. My doctor said it is not true, some states did this but not many. It all depends on how badly brainwashed the doctors on a particular states Board of Medicine have been by Reckit Benkiser into beleiving that naloxone actually does smething. In W.V, they are so brainwashed that all that is allowed is Suboxone brand film, for some reason W.V thinks generic bupe/naloxone is more dangerous than brand name. Once again, there is no law as stated above.

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I think it's an odd thing for doctor's/pharmacies to start implementing. Especially since there are individuals with allergies to Naloxone, who just can't take Suboxone. I've yet to come across any specific details about this new policy, but something else I find interesting is that Actavis recently came out with a new orange Subutex tablet (153 imprint w/ a half moon logo) that I'm sure wouldn't have been prescribed to patients within the past month only to be switched to Suboxone '30 days later'? Something about that just doesn't seem right. I realize big pharma doesn't necessarily have our best interest in mind as patients/consumers and our well-being, so I guess it wouldn't come as a huge surprise if they did end up pulling this stunt on new & pre-existing Subutex patients. I'd just double check with your doctor/(local) pharmacy though to be on the safe side.

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thats crazy. have you talked to your doctor? what prescriptions you can or cant have should be absolutely, 100% up to your DOCTOR, not the pharmacies. i have never once heard of a pharmacy making these decisions. in fact, i dont even think thats LEGAL....please talk to your doctor IMMEDIATELY!!!

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My doctor just told me today that as of July 1st that I will have to be switched from subutex unless I am allergic to the naloxone. This is terrible. I told him suboxone gives me headaches but he just said he has something else I can try. I'm happy with the subutex, it has been great. Idon't think about doing pills anymore or anything and then the law wants to come in and just mess every thing up. Not to mention how much those costs.

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ya i already had documented stomach issues before i ever took it. so my doc knew i couldnt take the naloxone. he didnt even question it. i am not on it anymore (on 70 mgs of methadone tablets thru private physician) so good luck to those of you for whom this is an issue. get some documentation of any stomach or migraine issues you have!

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A letter from your Primary care Doc may work as long as it states they feel a better option for you is the Bupe without Naloxone and the reason why......... Best Wishes!

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wow, that seems wrong. either way, you need to talk to your doctor. he/she should be the last word on what meds you get. if the doctor deems it medically necessary for you to keep getting the subutex, then he/she can tell them. i switched from subutex to methadone tablets before all these changes, but there is no way i could have taken suboxone (already tried). my doc would have made sure i got what i needed regardless of what some pharmacy tech said; hopefully yours will too.

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Brandon, I'm just about speechless over your post! I mean I have no suggestions for a remedy to your situation and I'm just so sorry and frustrated over our "Democratic" system which feels a lot more like a Dictatorship than anything I've experienced in 50 years in this country. It's sickening how a group of people, not physicians, can dictate to the medical profession and citizens what medications they can and can't prescribe for the patient! Everyone is individual and unique. Only the personal physician knows what's best for their patient. Our creator put Botanicals on this earth to help remedy most illness, physical or mental. Isn't it ironic that the rulers of our country (and others) have made most medicinal Botanicals illegal yet allowed alcohol which causes one of the most deadly addictions known to man run rampant. How many drivers under the influence of pot or opioid pain medicine cause fatal automobile crashes or hit and runs? Adding insult to injury, so many people are left without proper medical care, many turn to the street for relief. One never knows the purity or what's really in those substances. That causes overdose deaths. In the small town I live, overdose deaths have risen by 200% .200% more deaths in 2014-15 than any other year in recorded history. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU GOVERNOR?

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I heard the same thing. Someone please give information.

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this is very discouraging to hear. i absolutely could NOT take suboxone. i had a horrible stomach ache and nausea the ENTIRE time i was on it. these stomach problems went away as soon as i was switched to subutex.

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Thank you RCVRYDOC. I have never been prescribed suboxone but every time I got it on the streets I didn't react to it very well at all. It always made me breakout in a rash and itch really bad. I never went to the ER for it because I was using it without a scrip. I told my primary care doctor about it I told her that I could let them switch me and prove it to her but she said that she doesn't want anyone to have a bad reaction just to prove it. Thank you for your help.

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Hello. my problem is pharmacies. I been on subutex for a year and a half. THE PHARMACY I WAS AT FOR A YEAR. LET ME GO BECAUSE I WASN'T. PREGNANT .AFTER A YEAR. BEEN TOSSED AROUND BACK TO NO PHARMACY. REALLY. SICK LIVE IN OHIO WHAT'S UP WITH THEM I'M 50 AND AFRAID WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY HEALTH. DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THESE PHARMACY IS ALLOWED TO DO THIS. SOMEONE. PLEASE HELP

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Janet, I empathize with what you're dealing with re:pharmacists in Ohio. Unfortunately, you'll get the same treatment from every pharmacy in the USA. It is a constant stressor filling your monthly prescription, yes? Just thinking about the years and years I dealt with that makes my stomach do flips. There was one Ohio pharmacist I felt respected by in 15 years of filling a monthly script for narcotic pain meds. ASK YOUR DR OR THE NURSE TO PLEASE ASSIST YOU IN FINDING A NEW PHARMACY. Having the nurse or dr call the pharmacy in advance to just make sure they have the medication in stock could be your salvation in this. Let us know how that works out for you!

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Yes in Tennessee as of July 1 2015if you were taking Subutex you got swapped to suboxone. It just depends on what state you live in. If you live in a state that did not pass this law then it will not affect you.

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TN was the first state to pass the no subutex laws, there are a few methadone clinics in TN, one in Knoxville DRD, one in Chattanooga , Volunteer methadone clinic. These places still give out subutex but it's very $$$$$. After TN was the first to pull subutex on 7-1-2015 only a handful of other states have joined them. I hate to say it but it's either suboxone or methadone. You have to prove to a dr. You cannot take suboxone or you will not get subutex. I hate it I go to volunteer clinic and was ready to finally switch over to subutex, but I'm scared now. Even though the clinic says it's not getting rid of it if a new law came in and ordered methadone clinic to take subutex out, they would have to. Good luck

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Yeah, it's BS. I live in TN been on subutex for 1 1/2 years and it's worked wonders for me, but yesterday my doc informed me I have to switch to either suboxone strips, zubsolv, or bunaval. Even though I told him naloxone makes me very sick. It's almost not even worth it now might as well get back on drugs

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This sucks so bad for you guys. I see an addiction psychiatrist for addiction for lifetime maintenance with chronic pain. My doctor will fight that for me to get generic subutex it it ever becomes an issue.

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Ok so here in NC u can only get subutex if your pregnant or breastfeeding but when I started the sub clinic in Lexington NC last year in Feb 2014 I had a 6 wk old at home and was breastfeeding. The counselor informed me I had to be willing to stop breastfeeding BC they would not prescribe me subutex. WTF? Anyways I later found out there were girls there that were pregnant that got subutex. I actually detoxed off of methadone while I was pregnant. I didn't want my baby detoxing off of it. Well now a yr and abhalf later I still take suboxone but would rather take subutex. My husband just jot into a clinic here that doesn't take INS and he gets subutex. It is a cash only Dr. In pretty sure the only way he gets away with it is BC he doesn't accept INS BC of all the legal stuff that comes along with filing the bills with the INS Co...via counseling sessions, etc. But he actually will prescribe anyone subutex u just have to pay cash but its not that expensive like $175/mth for visit we just need help with prescription BC it doesn't seem any pharmacies want to accept discount cards for subutex and even the Dr doesn't have coupons for subutex. I've printed several off web but none of them work. Any suggestions?

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