drug czar 69 Says:
Oxycodone Blue Pill A 51 Fake? (Page 3) (Top voted first)
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Natalie Says:
So confused.. There are some of these that are really crumbly and look a lot darker than the ones I originally saw. They taste a lot grosser and are unpleasant.. They also melt in your hand and I didn't recall them doing that before..
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Re: CommonSense (# 43) 
Correct, however the mixed in fillers do have consequences on the absorption rate so the generic drugs may work less or better for your pain based upon the products used to mix as fillers so the tablet isn't microscopic in some cases and is able to follow the stamp ID process of the FDA. Here is info posted from the FDA. From what they say, the drugs all have the same content of the generic active ingredient, the effectiveness is somewhere around 3.5% plus or minus that of the brand name drug. In some cases, the generic may work better, this all depends on the person's body and how it reacts to the drug's mix with the inactive ingredients. here is the text copied from the FDA's website:
When a medicine, generic or brand-name, is mass produced, very small variations in purity, size, strength, and other parameters are permitted. FDA limits how much variability is acceptable.
For example, in a very large research study, 1 comparing generics with brand-name medicines, it was found that there were very small differences (approximately 3.5%) in absorption into the body between generic and the brand-name medicines. Some generics were absorbed slightly more, some slightly less. This amount of difference is expected and acceptable, whether for one batch of brand-name medicine evaluated against another batch of the same brand, or for a generic evaluated against a brand-name medicine. As a rule, the difference for the generic-to-brand comparison was about the same as the brand-to-brand comparison.
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Ro Says:
Re: Gman3 (# 13)
Shut up with the judging. Geez! Put honest verifiable information up.
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Kim Says:
Re: norman (# 2)
My dad is a cancer patient and he takes A51 oxycodone. They crumble easy so it's easier so they can get in your system faster. That's what my dad's cancer doctors told him
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Mike Says:
Re: TeW33zy (# 29)
They are making them in a lab in Mexico, so everybody should be careful.
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Drug Czar 69 Says:
To all of you who are buying these things from invalid sources, you are putting yourself in great danger because several hundred people OD year after year from household chemicals that are laced with chalk, candy, fentanyl and many other things. They are probably counterfeit. You could get onto Chinese sites like Alibaba and even buy pill presses with dies for just about every blue oxycodone 30mg out there. The only real safe source would be to go see a doctor if you are truly in pain. Even then, unless you qualify for the treatment, you may not be getting these as they are considered for cancer pain and other almost untreatable debilitating pain, not to cover one's abuse and addiction. A pharmacy will NEVER sell pills that melt in your hand, fall apart or anything even close. FDA would never allow this.
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Logan333 Says:
Re: Logan (# 37)
Fentanyl is absolutely fantastic. I love it and the only thing scary about it, or any other opiate, is the irrational demonization and misinformation, thanks to the ongoing hyped up media attacks that blame doctors and pills, absolving the addicts from any accountability. Not sure what you base your options on, but I have used both IR and the patch for years, in exchange for Oxycontin, and for me, it's essentially equal in pain relief...a great alternative. I haven't needed to increase the dosage either. When the effectiveness begins to wear...the key is to switch to another medication, brand or dosing. (Instead of six 20 mg...use four 30 mg, etc). I have Oxycodone for breakthrough and the combination gives me a quality of life. I would highly recommend to anyone with severe intractable pain. Ps- my real name IS also Logan.
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Pebbles523 Says:
Re: Pebbles (# 50)
AMEN SWEETIE! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. OUR GOVERNMENT IS SO TWISTED. THEY ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT PAIN MEDS, BUT ITS OK FOR ALCOHOLICS TO GET IN A CAR DRUNK AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. IT MAKES ME SICK. I NEVER JUDGE ANYONE, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT... PERIOD!
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NonMedFieldHardNox Says:
Did you buy them at a Mexican pharmacy? Never heard of anything like that coming from a pharmacy.
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Neco720 Says:
If you're going to speak on something at least know what you're talking about. I don't have cancer or Aids but I have had two back surgeries and I get 30 mg a 51s. So I don't know where you came up with your info but you're completely wrong
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Velveeta shells and cheese Says:
Re: Al Capone (# 12)
What kind of ***** thinks that they would make an “opiate” with an “opiate blocker” in the same pill. That s*** could really hurt someone. Some people have no common sense.
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PercPrince Says:
Re: Jared (# 14)
That dark blue is a fake. Also if its hard to break in half you knw for sure. They should be soft to break into powder. Sorry I have a problem and have been around these plenty. Be careful fentenol is no joke.
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norman Says:
A 51 is not a fake it is the real thing. It is just like the m30s. There is a new oxycodone out there but only available in a stronger dose and only for cancer patients. There is a post on line
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James Says:
I have had my meds analyzed by a lab tech and he informed me that each maker has different strengths. He told me that the mbox had like 26 or 28mg of the narcotic and 224s was like 22 or 24mg. I must say I was caught with a pill in my 7 day pill container (30mg/mbox) that I had forgotten about even after I showed the officer original bottle. It was sent to lab and came back as 28mg oxycodone. But i can say that I have doing them for about 7 years with pancreatitis and I found that these are not better the my mbox.
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Heather Says:
How much is too much? I'm taking 60 mgs because 30 doesn't do it for me anymore. Is it bad for my heart to be taking this pain medication?
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Bill Says:
Actually you are wrong. They do make them with naloxone in it, but a51s aren't them. Google it. They are S***.
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wowatnatalie Says:
Well natalie, ...if the pills have been banged around in the bottle it causes them to become fractured and brittle...i think, to answer this question, i think it's safe to say they are legit...
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David Says:
@Natalie,
First things first, depending on whether or not you're getting these filled at a real licensed pharmacy (which you didn't mention), there's really no way to know if what you're getting is real outside of having each tablet analyzed by a lab for verification. This is because counterfeits are becoming increasingly similar to legitimate versions of the same drug, often possessing the same imprint, color, and shape. So in my opinion, the most important thing you can do in such situations is to just be upfront and honest with yourself; and truly ask yourself "if you got them from other means", would you trust that they're real when they start falling apart in your hands and taste completely different than what you're used to taking? I for one probably wouldn't. But if that's not the case and you are going through your doctor/pharmacy, inquiring about the drug company or pharmacy's quality assurance or perhaps filing a complaint sounds like it would be most appropriate when something doesn't seem right.
Does anyone else have advice to offer?
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Gman3 Says:
Haha yes your so legit that's why your taking 30mg of Oxycodone for your pain when these meds were really made to treat cancer and aids patients
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VliciousV Says:
I believe that the A51s have an opiate blocker in them so that people are less likely to abuse them.
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