Orange Subutex 153 (Page 2)

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I refilled my monthly subutex Tuesday and received orange oblong tablets inscribed 153. My pharmacy has carried 54/111 over three years. Does anyone know if the orange ones are going to permanently replace all other generic Buprenorphine? Also, are any other patients experiencing loss in quality? Thank you

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@Frankie,
My comment was for those complaining of the taste or headaches associated with the new Actavis Orange Subutex, I would rather stick dirt under my tongue if it would work, because both colors taste disgusting and can cause headaches due to over consumption.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe the Orange Actavis Subutex are coming to America from Dublin Ireland, I might be incorrect. The batch you got could very well be placebo pills as far as I'm concerned if they are not closely watched when coming from another country. I would save your bottles and explain to your pharmacist and your doctor what is happening and they might get to the root of the problem. Maybe your doctor can check your nano- blood levels in a simple blood test to see if your properly getting the medicine and dosage sublingually. If it is Dublin Ireland, they could be tainted. Also the 1 or 2 ingredients they made slight changes with, may not work properly sublingually with certaiin individuals like yourself. Hope I could help sincerely because I know the importance of Subutex and how it can change and save lives. I am breathing, walking, proof.

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Wow..That's crazy! I was taking up to 15 painkillers a day, down to 10 a day when I started the new so called orange one's. They work for me from the get go! The main ingredient is the same as is in all..Its different fillers etc! I know this because i was a pharmacy technician for 9 years..I spoke to the Alan my old boss and questioned the difference. He said NO difference for main ingredient..the Burp! I don't know what to tell you really..I know its psychology more of a problem then many think. Our minds play alot in the withdraws we have..Yes, withdraws are real...but I would maybe recommend meditation. Good luck!

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Hi TJ...yes...the very small white ones may also have the same fillers...I don't know...,but far far less obviously. They worked very well...so the extra stuff is clearly there so those who prefer to insulfate(that 1% you mention...maybe higher % than that), cannot. And actually... what I specifically dislike it is not the extra bad taste...but that there is so much product to try to keep under the toungue...the best way to assure it is absorbed. So...while I could keep it under my tounge for a long time before....it is now too much product in my mouth. This is my experience...a real patient 5 yrs off after 10+ on!...who could not be happier than having found subutex. I'm not knocking this version for others...it is what it is...just the lack of choice....and the extra $50/mo-if no insurance. Also, I am scripted more than 8...but I have to divide doses(yes I have permission) because I get headaches. We are lucky to get this miracle opiod (even with the side effects)...however...I prefer the smaller pills...for all these reasons. Good health y'all

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Sorry...mixed up on % abusers/ complainers.

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Hi bc,
I get a bit mixed up too on who takes for what reason as well. I've been clean off pk's for month's now! I don't keep track..lol
But this medication saved my life as well and I'm so grateful! I pray I'm done with subutex after this last fill! Hope all goes well and I wake up with out taking anything! I'm simpley over all meds other then tylnol. Fingers crossed but I have faith.
Peace

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wow...good for you TJ...that is commendable. I've been happy with this for pain control ...so it is tough to consider stopping. I also imagine it can be tough... including depression, etc. please be careful...keep some around if you need it. I would enjoy a healthy libido again tho. cheers!

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Yes that is a common complaint. The best thing to do is complain to your pharmacy, the owner of your pharmacy and the drug company itself.

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Me too! Ive been taking the Hi Tech ones w the arrow for several years -,2- 8mg subutex a day then all the sudden i get these orange huge oval pills at Walgreens. THEY SUCK! They not only taste terrible they don't work as well I feel like I don't even feel like I'm taking anything out for any of the effects from it except for it's giving me bad migraines & night sweats. I called the pharmacy immediately and asked if I could take them back and switch them out and they said no that they were unable to take that controlled substances. I asked if this is what they were going to be getting from now on this activists Elizabeth and they said yes I then called my doctors office and I basically was told o well nothing we can do about it right now. Next time I will search pharmacies until I reach the one with the correct manufacturer. Which ones do you guys think work the best for Subutex 8 mg?

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hi subgirl...yea, walgreens said same thing to me. I called walmart pharmacy and thankfully they are still getting Roxanne. Those work great for me. Said that I could take the bottle, and they will have the script (refill) transferred. Won't make that mistake again. Hope you can manage to do the same.

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Thank you for letting me know! I have only been on high tech ones the arrow symbol b4, but u say the roxanne ones work better? Are they small too? Anything's g2b better than these big oval orange ones! They suck!

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yea Subgurl..for me, the Roxane 54 411's work the best, + they are bigger than the little arrows, so are easy to divide in two /or four pieces...but are not huge like the orange crescent moons ;)

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Subgirl..Im fighting with my pharmacy too over the orange monsters .I took them for 1week and nearly died I kept telling them I felt like I wasn't taking anything I had a killer headache nausea my legs hurt and I stayed sleepy all day They acted like I was lying or something I kept on and told them to look them up on the internet and see all the complaints and they finally reordered my white 45/411 roxannes back for me.I have een on them for years and I think they are the best.

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Cindypa...How do you get in touch with the company that makes the orange ones ?I will definitely complain to them .We all need to

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This post is not about subs, BUT you all are not crazy. Walgreens and CVS changed my oxy 10/325 with actavis, i got a bad batch or placebo. Walgreens are crooks. They're selling Actavis garbage Imo with drugs that are COMMONLY prescribed. OXY 10/325 IS A standard breakthrough medication for pain. Suboxone/subutex is prescribed a lot...so stand up for urself and get the brand that works with your body!! Good Luck All!!

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Yes me! My doc had to cancel our monthly appt & called in a week of subutex. I went to Walgreens as usual but this time i got the orange oval shaped pills. I normally get high-tech white small ones with an arrow & they work good. I'm on day 5 of orange & i feel like I'm going thru withdrawals. I def don't feel normal. I do not abuse my meds. I have been on subs for almost 5 years & have been clean for the same. I go to mtgs, i live a pretty good life in recovery. I don't know what r in these orange pills but they r def poor quality & there is no way it has my reg dose of 8 mg of buprenorphine. I can't wait till i go to the doctor on Tues, i will def call other pharmacies to see if they have the other brands. This is awful & the pharmacy wouldn't take them back. I am also getting awful headaches & have NO energy.

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I agree 100%. After a year on white 2mg Subutex, I was just given the Actavis orange. This is my 2nd day and I feel HORRIBLE. I was told by Walgreens ( had to switch due to closing of Pathmark) that this is what they got when they ordered it AND they discontinued the white ones. The white ones have to be out there somewhere. I had no problem for a year straight. Total disappointment. Gonna be a rough month.

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Funny there's no real war on hyrocodone/morphone/oxycodone/or morphine. And methadone. Well they actually have methadone in our water supply across the USA in higher metropolitan areas and even in some lower populated areas. So you have to wonder, ask the big question. What's the big deal with buprenorphine? It not only is way safer with less side effects and abuse potential then methadone. But its also been looked at for anxiety and depression. So if you have this drug that keeps you clean happy and a better part of society. Well then, why the big war?!?

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The reason generics are cheaper and less effective then namebrand is each manufacturer has the go ahead to make their version up to 20% less of the said active ingredient in their medication. So if you have been taking 8mg of subutex from one generic manufacturing company and it only pu say 95% of the active ingredient in each tablet. Then switch to a different manuf. They could have made theirs with the minimal amount which would've been 80% of buprenorphine. Although your slightly uncomfortable it'll pass within a week and your body will get use to it or you can explain this to your Dr. They will know what your talking about and ask for an extra 2mg or 4mg tablet to take a day. I personally just got used to it because gov. Is making such a huge deal over this crap.

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How long does subutex show in laboratory u/a's?

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I'm wondering, too, about this "nose burning" some people are attributing to certain generic subutex pills. What, are you insufflating them? Why??? As for the headaches, that side effect almost certainly comes from taking more than the proper dose; they're formulated that way purposely to discourage abuse. And lastly, just a little "grammar police" instruction: Suboxone is pronounced suboxOWN, not suboxin, and withdrawal does not have "s" at the end; it's withdrawal, not "withdrawals." Just felt a little cranky today--sorry if I offended anyone.

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