Doriden/glutethimide Availability (Page 7)

Does anyone know where one could obtain glutethimide or it's brand name Doriden (CIBA Company)? Am in Canada where Doriden was discontinued in late 1980s and I was told Doriden discontinue was international. Perhaps there is now a generic form containing glutethimide available now as I would assume CIBA trademark rights would have by now expired. As the benzodiazapine replacement meds for Doriden are more addictive and dangerous (especially if mixing with alcohol & other drugs) it sure would be great to be able to go back to Doriden or glutethimide which were more effective and safer. A shame that the public was switched over to benzodiazipines (i.e. lorazapam, diazapam) when a better/safer product was available all in the name of profits and economics. Any help out there is most appreciated.

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Re: Fred (# 119)

That's kind of tricky, usually when you see that they are either talking about 1 MG of Glutethimide in more than 10 milliliters of ethanol (basically alcohol) or some other solution. Or they often mislead people by DL-Glutethimide, which is the breast cancer medication Cytadren, which was developed by none other than Ciba. Despite the similarity in names that's about it. Has no sedative effect or liver enzyme inducer effects at all. Been there and done that a few years after they were discontinued in the US. I can only reminisce about the glory days. You should see some of the cases that I've read about online. One is US vs Lartey, another is US vs Milicia, and US vs Ekinci. Check them out, unbelievable. Fred, I wish I had some good news, the other night I was reading that the FDA just approved a medicine for daytime sedation called Doriden-Sed 100 MG. The article was from 1968. The cartels should do something.

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Re: Fred (# 119)

Restek Thames is a laboratory supply company who is in the business of selling gas chromatography tests, which are basically drug screening tests. When a person submits a U/A they are testing for the metabolites of the drug, not the drug itself. The digested remains of the substance, if you will. To do this you need a miniscule amount of the substance, I don't know why anyone would screen for Glutethimide. The government knows best, and they truly care about what you put in your body. It's really sad how they practically forced the few remaining manufacturers to cease. Halsey was willing to continue making Glutethimide as a schedule 2 drug, but the DEA put that ridiculous quota on it of 3 grams, which is about enough for six tablets. Everytime the DEA moves a schedule 3 to a schedule 2 they just mind as well ban the substance completely. Schedule 2 meds come with a lot of draconian rules and regulations with it. The way the government beat the Quaalude epidemic was by banning its precursor Anathrillic Acid, you can not manufacture Methaqualone without it. Have you ever been on the dark web?

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Re: Fred (# 119)

Forgot to mention that the breast cancer medication Cytadren name is Aminoglutethimide

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Re: Joseph (# 123)

Yes I'm aware of AminoGlutethimide but didn't realize it's one and the same as DL Glutethimide.

No, never been on dark web.

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Re: Fred (# 124)

No Fred it's not the same as aminoglutethimide. The DL stands for delimited, or inactive, usually sold in a very small amount in a milliliter of methanol. Used for research purposes, I don't know on what but I've seen it online before and it's of no value. I wish I could have better news but I don't think we will ever see them again, I'm sorry to say. As for the dark web, many scammers out there, and synthesis of Glutethimide is very complex as compared to the more simpler barbiturates. Try to keep in touch.

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Re: Fred (# 124)

Soma (Carisprodol) is a CYPD26 liver enzyme inducer like Glutethimide and there is a Soma compound with codeine that's also made. It took the government about 40 years to make it a controlled substance, schedule 4. You see Carisprodol turns into the ancient sedative Meprobamate in your body. Meprobamate, which I don't even know if it's still made, was branded as Miltown, and Equanil. It was actually invented by Wyeth IIRC in their R&D labs in Miltown NJ! Anyway, I heard it's close but no cigar. Same thing with Promethazine with codeine syrup. Like I said previously I don't think we'll ever see a Glutethimide tablet ever again in our lifetime. I'm 99.99% sure. West Orange

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I am sorry to say that you'll probably will never find a Doriden tablet ever again in your lifetime. And they were so widely available at one time. Dors & Fours!

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They were discontinued in the US I in "93. Doriden and codeine were very popular in my area.

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Re: Joseph (# 1)

No, they were called "Loads" or "Doors and Fours".

You sound very confused and unfamiliar with the actual slang name of this drug.

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Re: Ed (# 7)

Several friends of mine as well.

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Re: Dusan (# 11)

Is that still true now in 2023 ?

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Re: Joseph (# 1)

Your are right Joseph. They were sold illicitly in manhattan. They would hit their fist together at the cars where people were looking. Very addictive.

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