What Not To Say During Suboxone Appt

My boyfriend has battled with heroin addiction for at least 2 years now. He was prescribed to before, but couldn't afford the maintenance program and ended up banging heroin again. He went back to his doctor to get a script for suboxone again last week, and the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to him. I found another dr who can prescribe suboxone nearby, and want to make sure he gets a script because he will die if he doesn't quit using. Does anyone know any reasons why a dr wouldn't prescribe suboxone?
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A good doctor is hareder to find than a good dog. Pay cash, don't go to a doctor that has every client in need of pain meds. If you have X-rays and can prove you've taken the meds before, you still may have to shop around. Be strait with the doctor, but don't tell your life story. Be percise and to the point; 'Iv'e been on many different med's in the past(don't say the word methadone) and 2 /4mg.name brand Diladuid tablets three times a day along with 1 30 mg. Roxicodone for severe interactive pain helps me more than anything. I take 2 mg. of zannex twice a day for stress and insomnia. Iusually break the zannex in half, or even in four pieces and just take them as needed so I won't run out. I read and I'm on the internet over 12 hours a day.For me it's not the lesser of 2 evils but something that makes life a lot easier to deal with. I have to fly over a thousand miles each month to see my doctor, because when Iv'e started calling #'s in the phone book, they ask too much personal info.

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In addition, Suboxone is a very closely monitored drug and only certain doctors can prescribe it.

If he is just taking it like he took other drugs and not actually trying to taper down and get off the drugs, then no doctor will keep prescribing it for him.

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There are only certain doctors that can prescribe suboxone. Maybe he went to a dr that can't prescribe it. Ask over the phone if they do prescribe it. Go in and say he wants to be clean and not go through withdrawls. Maybe say he is going to go to counseling also.

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Dr. dont like subs becouse they can keep you on the methadone longer and bill the hell out of you or your ins.

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Since the Dr.s have to go through a special training program, etc. to be able to prescribe suboxone they will look for reasons to NOT prescribe it, and those who need it most may not get it. My suggestion would be a inpatient facility if you can get the state to pick up the bill, the DR. will continue the suboxone. If not, stick to the facts while saying as little as possible, don't mention a failed rehab attempt ( although technically this should make him a better candidate, not a worse one) and try to look at it from the Dr.s liability point of view, that's what makes decisions for them. Try to appear like a good candidate for rehab, stress the importance of receiving the medication I really want to stop using before it's too late Good Luck

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Its easier if you actually need the med to knock that sh** off im a H user and oxy alll i want is my life back be honest and tell them u use excescively they cant say no when ur on the verge of a overdose and i feel like that. use this as needed or you will properly fu** yourself and youll be a junkie forever.. help yourself no else will and be honest to a point exajurate alot.

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If you want to get a script, Goto www.Suboxone.com and find another doc near you that writes and tell him you are on oc pain meds and your doc recomended that yiou go to a suboxone doctor. Tell him that you take 3 40mill oc's everyday and cant afford the meds anymore and that your starting to run out earlierier every month. I want to quit but i need help making it thru the first 3 or 4 weeks. I heard that suboxone helps. Make sure you got oc in your piss it might help. The thing is that every doctor is different. Try not to pay till you see the doc , so if he dont write dont pay. Ha I quit on 6 suboxone 8mg pills and started with 2 then 2 then 1 1/2 and worked down. try to ask around, there are alot more people on OCs and dog than you think and most are in the closet. But when it comes to bangin, your on a whole nother level of messed up. Take suboxone after you quit. Just take 1/2 mg or 1mg a day to help keep your mind together and smoke some weed, it helps alot to keep your mind off of the Heyron.. good luck

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Goto www.suboxone.com and find a new doc near you. Tell him you've never been or taken suboxone before and heard that it helps alot with withdrawl.

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Hey, I been using H for about a year now. I first started to use it to get off oxy's what a fool I am. Both of these drugs have ruin my life. I was always a weekend warrior and I never thought I would ever get hook, but I am. I really want to quit I think of all the money I have spend and it makes me sick I'm sure it had taken me to at least $60,000 or more. I've always know about soboxone a lot my drugie friends have take it. I took it once and made me sick as hell, I don't think I waited long enough. I have cut down to about 2g a day. How long should I wait to take it?? I got my hands on some N8.. I really want to quit, I need to quit I fear that one day I may just kill my self I can't take the hiding it. I'm always broke because every dollar I make goes to this stupid drug. I snort it, I don't injected.. How long before I take it.. I heard at least 24hr but it's hard as I start to get really sick by the 12th hour.. So, I also got some 2mg xanax to help me with the last 12hr..

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If he got it from a suboxon dr and just quit it. They think he's going for any drugs to get a fix at the time just tell them when he stoped taking it he wasn't doing to good with out it.

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theres a great sub doc in vero beach dr.parvus hell save ur mans life he sure as hell helped me iwas strung out bad on heroin myself gurl just support him and be there if hes withdrawin just dont enable him but gettin clean is sooooo hard and u need good peeps in ur corner no addict can do this alone ive been struggling wit addiction for almost 10yrs and im only 27 its really hard but yea look up dr.parvus vero beach or put in ur zip code good luck

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As others have posted, you have to look up a "Suboxone" doctor in your area, only a few are allowed to prescribe it. With him, I believe that all you have to say is "I have been addicted to opiates most of my life off and on, and I want to get off it for good". When asked, tell him, heroin, or as with me, mixed with being hooked on Vicodin at various times and back and forth. That's what Suboxone is for. To help you to stop being addicted to all of that other sh*t. You do have to stop doing the other stuff. Take as directed, exactly as directed, Suboxone only. You can't sneak in any of that other sh*t, they'll also test your urine to make sure you are not f*cking around. I cannot imagine what your friend said in order to NOT get it.

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i know your post is old but i am going through the same thing with my husband and i was wondering if the suboxone helped we are going to go to the doc this week and try to get the problem solved but i dont know what to expect just wanted to know if it helped

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Dear Worried Wife,
I feel for you. How does a heroin addict get a loving wife who sticks by his side? I know that many addicts are quite charming, maybe that's it. Loving, kind, compassionate, capable of feeling pain both for others and for ourselves, for the pain we have experienced, childhood abuse, neglect, abandonment, violence, killing, institutions, prison, love, child-rearing, joy, fulfillment, marriage, divorce. And the thing that will always work to make you free from pain, opiates.
Suboxone will work, especially initially, if you take the test dose and come back tomorrow for the next dose, and then you get the month prescription. If you can continue to take as prescribed, you will remain opiate free.
I am going through a ad spell right now. I can't take as prescribed so I've run out before the month is over. I'm pretty discouraged right now. For 1 year was okay. Not sure what is wrong now but I'm hurting emotionally & physically as 'scrip will not be available until about 12/5; meanwhile I've got like 2 left.
We all die in the end, I wish you & your husband best wishes. God bless you, loving someone so hard. Maybe it is all there is in life, that love! Of oboy doesn't make it you can move on & maybe still have a good life !

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Just wanted to add my story in also.. I've been hooked on h for going on 6 months now. I don't know if that's long enough to qualify me to get prescribed suboxones but I'll soon find out and update. I haven't been on it as long as a lot of the other posters on here but it's still pretty bad. I'm so ashamed of my addiction. I've tried to quit lots of times but I'm always just feeling so down about everything that's going on with my life and things that happened in the past that I just want to do another shot to numb all those negative feelings. I was sexually abused for 10 years from the time I was 4 years old til I was about 14. I reported it to my counselor and then from there they contacted cps and I told several people about what happened and NOTHING was done to the guy that hurt me! I'be been suffering with depression my whole life because of the abuse and when I reported it I felt like things were finally gonna get better. But when they just let him go like that, it just made me feel lower than I'd ever felt. Not only did I not get justice but some other kids might be getting hurt right at this moment by that guy! He belongs in prison. After that I just felt like nothing. Like nobody cared about me or believed me. I just don't understand why they let him go. Even a close relative of mine was getting abused by the same guy and another little girl we knew! So wtf? But yeah, since then my life has just been going downhill and 10 months ago I broke up with this guy I was with for over 6 years and I have two kids with him. I was so sad about it that I hooked up with this other guy to try to forget about my ex and he's the one that got me hooked on h. I want to quit for myself and my kids. Right now I don't even have my own place to live. My son's staying with his dad cause he goes to school and my younger daughter and I are staying with my boyfriend. Since I've been on h it's just taken all the life out of me. I know what I need to do, like going out and looking for a job and a place to live and all that but I just don't have like the will to do it. And it's because of h. I want to stop for good but it's so hard. I've gone through withdraws before and they're just unbearable so it keeps me going back for more. I'm hoping to get suboxones and get my life back on track. To anyone that's reading this and cares, please pray for me and wish me luck getting a script. I'm kind of scared to even do that cause I feel like the doctor or someone will report it or medicaid will see that I'm getting a prescription for a drug problem and they'll report me to cps and I'll lose custody of my daughter. Some of y'all are probably thinking I should because she shouldn't be with me if I'm using h but since I was sexually abused, I'm absolutely terrified to let anyone else have her! I don't even leave her with a babysitter to go out or anything. She's always with me. I won't even leave her alone with my own brothers or sisters! I don't think they're capable of doing any kind of harm to her but its always in my head that pedaphiles, predators or any child molester is almost ALWAYS the person you'd least expect! So anyways, again, please wish me luck on recovering and staying clean. Oh and I've also od'd once. It wasn't a serious one. I didn't even know it happened. I just thought I fell asleep but my boyfriend told me I wasn't breathing and I was all blue and he gave me mouth to mouth and I woke up. I'm scared to overdose again or lose my daughter. It's bad enough I don't have my son. Another reason, out of a million, why I'm so depressed and my life is all messed up right now :'(

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You're not alone- I'm going through the same bull****, too...UGHHH. We should talk! Lemme know if you want to talk and we could decide what to do next together??

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Hang in there, all. You can find a doctor who will prescribe Suboxone, if you want it. Plug in your zip code online & find a suboxone doctor in your area. You can find someone who can help take care of your child, someone who is trustworthy. Everyone has a childhood; none are perfect. Try to overcome, Priscilla & Alice! I believe in you; I want to encourage you. I am not religious, but I pray for you now, I pray you are all right & you find peace, food and shelter and love for your children. I'm praying to the Super Best Friends, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Moses, Krishna, all the Hindu gods, & the native American Spirits of the North, East, South, and West. Amen.

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Priscilla, The best thing you can do is tough it out and get away from the man that got you hooked. I have been an addict for 30 years, now going through counseling and substance abuse treatment has tought me that I can not blame others, no one twisted my arm. what I do realize is I am co-dependant. I can not be alone and need others to feel loved. With the addiction, I am a follower and will abuse the type of drug whoever I am with is doing. I was being physically abused but stayed for the drugs, and fear of being alone. Every time I get away, I instantly get better. So although I used to say it was their faults, I now know it is only mine. I have been clean for 6 months, easier now since I got a felony and am on probation. If I use I go to prison. Even with that said, I still long to use opiates/Heroin. Want to get on suboxone cause I don't trust myself, gone to rehab for one month now and they do not want to give it to me because of being clean. This makes me want to use just to get the added help I need. I sought out dysfunctional relationships so I could feel normal, raised in abusive families and sexually assaulted/raped multiple times. I feel for you so much as you sound just like me. I would like to talk to you more about it, it helps me to talk as people around me would all leave if I shared what I am really thinking. God Help Us Both. Get the help you need and get out in that order.

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Please hang in there &do everything you can to get on the Suboxone Program! I've been on it 5 1/2 yrs. & its the best thing I could of done in & with my life.

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my doctor, a phsychiatrist with addiction therapy specialties gave it to me for maintenance, but he believed in "doing what works". that and addys did for 4 years. my life flourished, but eventually I got off subs and repeated he cycle.
that's when i found out that docs didn't want to hear that I'd been on
on subs before and relapsed. but than again, the new doc was a partner at a methadone clinic. So I'm on the hunt again; being so expensive, there is no room for error, whether your on the street or seeing a doc. This time i plan on not telling the relapse part

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Not all Doctor are prescriber's, you have to find a doctor, GP,that is also a prescriber.

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Re: Alice (# 15)

How are you Alice?? How did it go? Please write back. I know this thread is old.

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I have someone presently who has been cut off his suboxone because he is outside of the clinic jurisdiction. There are no other sub doctors in the area. (rural Montana) We are trying to find him a medical detox. This would need to be anywhere in the Pacific Northwest. Does anybody know any medical detox for him?

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Re: Tomservo (# 222)

Not true for me...I went in to treatment on day 5 of withdrawals. Perhaps checking into out patient treatment first even if for a week would grease the wheels by documenting the addiction with professionals. ???

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Re: Chillidog (# 6)

Unfortunately, you are so right... Suboxone is a game changer. It completely eliminated my cravings and I took 120-200mg/day of oxy, and my life was not my own. Methadone didn't help. I just wanted more. Suboxone makes me feel NORMAL and I can live my life without constant fiending. I am happy and motivated and have good energy to be a functional person. Anyone with opiate addiction should try suboxone in my opinion. In the next few years the scales will tip and it will be the norm in lieu of methadone. It's a partial agonist plus antagonist so it makes taking real opiates not feel good, which creates a new biofeedback loop in your brain to have an aversion to real opiates. Can I get a hallelujah?

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Re: Alice (# 15)

I am so sorry to hear about your situation. I don’t know how long ago this was but it really sounded like me, except it wasn’t h, just pills. Hope you are better now but if not I have sent up a prayer...

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If he didnt have any opiates in his urine when tested you wont be prescribed suboxone. There should be no other reason thats why their

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I have a doctor Moore. In Jackson an I failed. For methamphitamines. N now I have. To go. To him. Daily for 2subs. (2hour trip) who else can see me for suboxone??? Plz help. Me

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I am an addict with a loving husband who has stuck by my side. He has never been addicted to anything and doesn't really know what anything about addiction. I have used through a good portion of our relationship and I recently had our first daughter and immediately got on subs. Living an H addict or any addict is hard. I have completely made a mess of our life and he an i both are cleaning it up. Some people just have the strength to love someone through. Lucky us. Very lucky us.

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Hell ya I do..I hope you live in portland, oregon.... That's where he is but if not I'm sure he can recommend somebody in your area. He's the type of dr that had my back as I was sent to jail once and the jail wouldn't give out subs in my county. It's never been done before; only methadone if u had a script, but never subs. They refused to give me my subs in jail and said they only do methadone and I called my doctor from jail and told my dr what was happening. He wigged, called the police departments and demanded that they had give me my med. My dr told them that they were not medical professionals (and that he was my doctor). Ripped them a new ass. I mean 1 holiday I ran out early (I had his personal cell number so I called him and he phone them right in for me and even lets me consume marijuana. And I stayed with him ever since. 7 years in the sub world that's unheard of. Most doctors who do prescribe subs for people end up bouncing around every year to keep a script, always something or their excuses to cut ya off, but not this guy.

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