Sun Pharma Generic Adderall

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Maggie Says:

My usual generic Adderall 10mg pill is usually a round blue pill. It's manufactured usually by Aurobindo and sometimes the pharmacy will give me one manufactured by IMPA(I'm assuming it's an abbreviation). This time, I was given a round light green pill with the numbers 443 and what looks like a smushed letters MP on it. The manufacturer is Sunpharma. Is this safe? I had some unrelated stomach issues last year and I'm concerned about side effects of this pill since other dosages of this manufacturers generic Adderall has given people bad side effects. My pharmacy isn't really addressing my concerns. Any info would be great.

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Jimbo81 Says:

Hi Maggie, I am interested myself. I know a guy who says they are good. But everyone is different.

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Verwon Says:

Sun Pharmaceuticals does list this as containing 20mgs of mixed Amphetamine salts, but the only way to see how it works for you is by actually trying it to see.

Have you started taking it, yet?

The FDA warns that this medication carries the risk of being habit forming, and may cause side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, insomnia, anorexia, and nervousness.

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TommyKnockerz Says:

Verwon, I've noticed that my Sun Pharma. 12.5mg tabs don't work worth a crap. I have been increasing week by week beginning with .5mg and this is worse than the 7.5mg tabs. I have had no noticeable increase in attention with these Sun Pharma. tabs. I took the blue 12.5mg tabs last week and they were fine but these are not even close to those.

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Molo Says:

Re: TommyKnockerz (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

I’m sure you figured this out by now...I just want to complain. I got sun 20mgs. Took one at 7 am and went back to sleep for three hours. Worst generic I’ve ever had

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Hamster Says:

Hi

I have tried every brand and generic Adderall with the exception of Sun Pharma (now NorthStar in US).

After my Doc appointment, enroute to my usual pharmacy, I called ahead to ensure they had my usual 30 mg Teva in stock. "No," the pharamacy tech said. "We have them on back order and are using Northstar." "Northstar", I said. "I've never heard of them." "any issues with complaints/not working?", I ask. "No, we have had no issues."

OK, as I'm Googling "Norhstar" enroute to Pharmacy, there is basically nothing there. Go to Northstar website and see its there (but website looks like just a disibutor type site for the products.

Anyway, to cut to chase. I get to pharmacy, they fill order, they call my name to pick up/pay - and I ask them to open bottle before the transaction. Pharmacist opens Pills are yellow with MP447."Never seen these before," she says. Do a quick Google and it is Sun Pharma but manufactured at Frontida BioPharm in Philadelphia- not India. "Ok" I say. I'll ty them." Pay and leave.

As its well documnted here - and personal experience- the India Adderall (Aurobindo is only I have tried)- has very mixed reviews (mainly negative). I havehad really decent, working batches one's that just pain suck.

So after 1 week, this is my take:

1. Very Speedy. They seem to have larger Levo portion to Dextro portion in the pills.
2.. Seemed more like the old Teva that increased my anxiety.
3. If you normally take 30 on Teva, start with 15 on Northstar.
4. Very good concentration and motivation.
5. Decent mood enhancement (but nothing like old Core).
6. Normal dry mouth, lack of appetite.
7. No headaches like Teva or Adderall.
8. Seemed like a mix between the old Teva and the old Core.
9. These Northstar have differnet NDC #'s than Sun but are same (but made in States!).

Bottom line: Considering whats been out there, not bad. Gave me ADD relief with minimal side effects.

Would I get them again: Yes.

Anyway, good luck to you all...

And as protocol, this is not an endorsement or recommendation, just my personal experinece (as we all know, everyone reacts differently to meds.)

Ciao

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Aurobindo Says:

Re: Hamster (# 5) Expand Referenced Message

Dear Hamster, we are contacting from Aurobindo pharma and we are concerned about your complaint. We would like to know further details about your complaint. You can report an adverse event experienced after taking Aurobindo medicine at aurobindo.com/contact-us/adverse-event-reporting

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CoschKristen Says:

Re: Molo (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

I was actually looking to see if they accidentally got mixed up & put in sleeping pills by mistake. However it says they’re generic for Adderall. I’m on quite a high daily dosage (legitimate RX from psychiatrist) & I had a bad reaction one of the other manufacturers so my pharmacy was supposed to put a note in my file to only use 1 specific brand. And it’s definitely NOT theses! These are even worse!
I take a 30 mg in the morning & cannot wake up/feel groggy. Kinda like I’d just taken a sleeping pill. I didn’t think anything about it until my 2nd pill in the afternoon. I was still barely able to keep my eyes open. Then my evening dose basically puts me to sleep. I can’t function like this! Not to mention the cost for an RX that is doing the opposite is not ok with me since I’m on disability.
I’m glad I’m not the only one.
I’m not sure if I should bring this up with my doctor or the pharmacy & what they could even do at this point? But I am going to at least bring it up. Cuz I do not want these again!

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CoschKristen Says:

Re: Jimbo81 (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

This is true! Everybody’s body responds differently. So what works for one person may not work for another.
However, these ones do not work at all for me personally & are causing the opposite effect of what they’re intended to do. Although, I’ve always had some sort of backwards reactions to meds. All antidepressants make me MORE depressed!
I was on Lithium for Bipolar Disorder & usually makes people gain weight. I was losing too much weight so they had to take me off since it can be toxic in that case. Luckily I was prescribed a different mood stabilizer that works with no negative side effects.

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CoachKristen Says:

You should look for a new pharmacy! Part of their job is to listen to patients; especially if they are having a negative reaction to a medication so that they can possibly find an alternative & speak to your doctor about it.
I know there’s only so much they can do legally, but I do know that they can get in contact with your doctor to discuss this as my pharmacy has done this in the past. I’m just not sure who to bring it up to 1st. The pharmacy or my doctor? So I’ll probably contact my doctor & then the pharmacy.

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HCStymie Says:

I've had a number of generic adderall brands over the years. Teva, Shire, Barr and probably some others all worked fine with only minute differences between them. Aurobindo is useless. And so was Sun Pharmaceutical when I tried them. If anyone usually takes Aurobindo, Sun will probably be the same reaction. But be aware, if you get one of the decent brands, it might be too strong for you. I usually take 40mg in the morning and sometimes 10 or 20 more in the afternoon if needed. I have Aurobindo now and take 80mg (not exaggerating) in the morning and still struggle to get out of bed. And 20 or 40 more 4 hours later because it wears off really fast. Even then, still not ass effective as the good brands. Getting a good brand from a different pharmacy tomorrow. Can't wait. Also, I took some Teva 10mg ones I had in the drawer from 2012 and they still work better than Aurobindo or Sun brands. Aurobindo used to make me a little nauseas, give me a slight headache and feel "yucky", the best way I can explain it. Still feel off but getting used to their budget ingredients.

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HCStymie Says:

Re: Hamster (# 5) Expand Referenced Message

Anything with amphetamine has to be made in the United States if sold here. Indian companies create or buy U.S. companies as subsidiaries to be in the amphetamine business. The DEA regulates the amount of amphetamine raw materials to make medications. And are part of the problem when it comes to shortages.

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Louise Says:

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I'm in agreement about the yellow former Sun pharma, now Northstar 30 mg ir generic Adderall. The only thing that I can add on side effects is that they leave an odd metallic taste in my mouth about 30-45 minutes after I take them. The good news is that it is brief and not consistent. I get them at Safeway in AZ. Right now I'd say they are the #1 generic out there at the moment with Sandoz in #2 but those are very difficult to come by in the past year. In addition, if anyone out there ever has a red rash that resembles a stress rash or mild hives it's likely from a generic manufacturers' inactive ingredients. I found out that I had an allergy to the inactive ingredient corn starch, after a couple of years of misery and practically overdosing on benedryl just to get about 30%-40% effectiveness & potency for my ADD. But gelatin starch is not the same so I've had great success with the old Sun pharma/Northstar yellow 30 mg ir. And if you notice a difference in the potency or if you ever get a rash or any other side effects that could be considered to be an allergic response you can ask your pharmacist to give you a list of all of the inactive ingredients and compare them to other generics that have not given you that issue and through trial and error you should be able to figure out what inactive ingredient is causing anykind of adverse effects or allergic ones as well? I've also had better absorbsion if I take a magnesium supplement with my morning Adderall dose. I also do not take them with grapefruit or orange juice within a hour or two of my Adderall dose because the acidity destroys some of the potency. I hope this helps everyone out there struggling with this very real & sometimes debilitating problem?
Take care and stay safe.

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Nat Says:

Yellow 30mg Adderall from Sun Pharaceuticsls, inc. is awful! It made me worse! I’ve taken Adderall for 15?years. I felt like I was losing my mind and then I got my next months prescription of my usual brand and I’m still not 100% is there like something different with the ingredients in it

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Optimistic Says:

I think Aurobindo finally stopped making their fake adderall. Look on the FDA drug shortage web page. I believe last time I looked they discontinued making adderall which is good. Theirs was trash, like those old crossroad pills gas stations used to sell in the 90s.

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Kyle Says:

I've been on adderall / generic mixed amphetamine/dextroamphetamine salts for 20+ years.

A good while back, I had received the yellow 30mg generics mfg by Sun Pharma. They were absolutely worthless. I filed an FDA form 3500 and never received them again. In fact, Sun Pharma discontinued them in 2018. I remember also reading several other complaints.

Yesterday, I received an rx from a pharmacy I dont typically visit and was shocked that I had received the same yellow trash again with identical markings! But this time they were "mfg" by Northstar, LLC.

Interestingly enough, Sun Pharmaceuticals discontinued the product in 2018. In early 2019, Northstar began marketing what looks like the identical product which costs them 31 cents to produce.

My best guess is that Sun Pharmaceuticals could no longer market the product due to the amount complaints from consumers to FDA and/ or pharmacies themselves. So then Northstar, LLC (owned by McKesson) somehow inherited the product and obtained marketing rights and began selling the same trash but under a different manufacturer name.

I plan to do more research on this when I have time and am going to make a YouTube video with my findings to try and expose them. In the meantime, I will be filing a FDA 3500b again and suggest everyone who had adverse reactions to this product to do the same.

Here is the link: https:/­/­www.accessdata.fda.gov/­scripts/­medwatch/­index.cfm?action=consumer.reporting1

Best Wishes.

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Kyle Says:

Re: Verwon (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

Do you think anyone who is on this thread hasn't been told of the side effects of this medication by their doctors, pharmacy or the label itself.

The OP is addressing a specific manufacturer...duh

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Redpillbabe Says:

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Omg seriously thank you for talking about hives/allergic reaction for the past two or three years every now and then I get a terrible itchy rash on 1 side of my breast/ribs and it comes on and goes and I’ve tried everything to stop it from coming but when you said about the corn starch etc In adderal I’m wondering if that’s why I’m getting it I hardly ever get the same type of adderal every month it’s different and I also use baby powder with corn starch I’m totally asking my Dr to test me so thank you you might’ve just helped me with an embarrassing problem that it looks like I have a disease when an itch attack comes on in public LOL

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HCStymie Says:

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All amphetamine based meds in U.S. like Adderall are made in the U.S. It is illegal otherwise. Indian companies that sell in the U.S. manufacture it in the U.S. The DEA regulates the raw materials for it and provides it to the pharma industry. Aurobindo/Aurolife, for example, is manufactured in the U.S. Sun which is also an Indian company is manufactured in the U.S. Aurobindo manufactures it for Sun, which helps explain why Sun is so bad. NorthStar which is Sun's subsidiary in the U.S. used to get it from Aurobindo, but changed their formulary to a new manufacturer. Which may explain why it is not as horrible as the regular Sun brand. Not sure if Sun changed to a new formulary or not more recently or is still supplied by Aurobindo. I was taking 120 to 140mg a day of Aurobindo and it wasn't as good as 50mg of the current Teva generic and didn't last as long. Will consider NorthStar after your review if I can't get something I know is good that I have tried.

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Kyle Says:

Re: HCStymie (# 18) Expand Referenced Message

I am curious as to why you would consider seeking that brand if:

1) If your previous experience was negative (ie.. taking > 2x amount versus another brand to have same effect)

2) The plethora of other brands available that you already know work.

Also, I noticed that you mentioned in your reply that your decision to seek this brand would be dependent on Hamster #5's analysis...but it is 2022 and he posted his reply 2019...he might not be getting back to you..just saying.

You seem to know a lot about the business dealings of Sun Pharma, Aurobindo, McKesson, Northstar etc.

Do you or have you worked with any of those companies or subsidiary?

I'd love to chat with you more regarding this.

{edited for privacy}

Cheers.

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thepope504 Says:

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WOW!! Are u a lobbyist or just good?

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Optimistic Says:

Re: Bella (# 31) Expand Referenced Message

Yep I know my problem isn’t tolerance I take half of my recommended dose and it’s fine and I’ve been like this for years. I’ve been taking Adderall off and on since 2003, my dose has gone up at times, but I am currently prescribed the exact same amount I was prescribed for my first prescription, and most of the time I only take half of the pill, but since last year it has been noticeably weaker. Definitely not me or tolerance

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Optimistic Says:

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The 10mg Teva work for me but definitely not as well as they used to, if I take twice as much as I used to it seems to work like it used to. And I guess I’m OK with that because I was only taking half my dose before. But it’s kind of a bummer because that’s how I’ve always survived the shortages, by taking a half dose if I only need a half dose and then saving the other half for when they can’t produce it. looks like this 2023 shortage I will actually feel and suffer from. Bummer. I fill out an FDA medwatch complaint whenever I get bad generics. I probably can’t claim responsibility for it, but I complained endlessly about Aurobindo adderall and now they can’t make it anymore because it was so bad when finally tested.

And listen, the pharmacies know they are buying bed meds. Rite Aid knows not to give me Aurobindo anything and when they did and I had to argue with them for them to take it back so I could fill it somewhere else the pharmacist yelled at me that they are FDA approved medication, he had a smirk on his face, and when I told him they are barely FDA approved and then when the FDA checks up on them they shut them down he smirked again and changed the subject. They know what they are doing.

I have also had pharmacist tell me the generic medication is exactly the same as the name-brand and they know that is incorrect. Generic medication can legally vary up to 20% from the name-brand and they don’t compare them to each other, so one generic may be 20% weaker than the name-brand and then a different generic could be 20% stronger than the name-brand, which would be a huge difference in efficacy if you went from one to the other. This is not a conspiracy theory this is an actual law/guideline that is completely on the books. Of course the pharmacists know this yet they lie to our faces so we continue to purchase from their corporate employers.

Walgreens and Walmart use the same distributor which has a lot better medication than whatever distributor CVS and Rite Aid uses. I’ve also been told that because of the two different distributors if CVS can’t get a medication Rite Aid likely can’t get it, but Walgreens or Walmart may be able to.

Also if you are experiencing a shortage and the pharmacies won’t tell you over the phone if they have it you can call the manufacturer and ask them who they have distributed to you within your ZIP Code or your area, they can look that up and tell you which pharmacies have received shipments. Or they can tell you that nobody has.

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Optimistic Says:

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Yeah I think that’s what’s left over from the supply from last year that was pretty much garbage. I was getting those from wallgreens or CVS mail away in December, wallgreens has had Teva for months here and that’s the only one I actually like.

But I’m afraid it’s going to be slim Pickens between now and next year because the FDA and the DEA decided to only give the manufacturers the same amount of active ingredient they had last year.

So even if there were no new prescriptions written at all this year, we are on track to have another shortage starting now actually.

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Swampthing Says:

Re: Nicole (# 32) Expand Referenced Message

Been getting Sandoz xr for months ony effect is racing heart insomnia and irritability.Mind have no proper active ingredients in them.Its basically A placebo.

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Nicole Says:

Re: Bella (# 31) Expand Referenced Message

THANK YOU!!! It's definitely not in our heads and you're absolutely right that something is definitely different with Teva's Adderall formula!!! I have been on 20mg generic Adderall for years and used to stick with Teva. They had the best quality and it worked the best for me out of the 7 other generics I've tried. But I WILL NOT take the garbage they've been producing for about the past year either!! It makes me anxious, depressed, cry my eyes out, unable to focus, unproductive, unable to sleep, severe migraines and dry mouth. Everyone PLEASE do what I did and report this notice in change to the FDA!!! Sandoz is definitely the best generic now, but good luck with being able to find any by them

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Bella Says:

All I know is that Teva used to have the best quality of generic Adderall, but has been total garbage for the past year!! Something is definitely different and it's not all in our heads. I have been prescribed Adderall for years, but honestly only take it when I really need it. So I know that tolerance definitely isn't the issue here. Teva's Adderall used to have me awake, focused, happy, more productive and really helped change my life. But now it makes me severely anxious, depressed, nauseous, dizzy, gives me severe migraines and horrible insomnia. I refuse to consume anymore of the crap their making. What's worse is that they also produce the nongeneric formula as well. I've tried generic Adderall from at least 6 other manufacturers and they were all like a placebo, except for the ones made by Sandoz. I recommend everyone switch to Sandoz if they too have noticed that Teva's formula is different. If you're lucky enough to even be able to find Sandoz anywhere! It's next to impossible to find again where I'm located and I don't know what to do at this point. I was thinking about asking my Dr to prescribe me a different ADHD medicine, but hate being a medication guinea pig. Any recommendations on what I should try switching to? I appreciate anyone's help and advice. Thank you

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Bev Says:

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Hi do you have a reference for the law about US manufacturing? Thanks

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HCStymie Says:

Re: HCStymie (# 18) Expand Referenced Message

To fix my previous post. Sun is not made by Aurobindo. There was a time when Aurobindo did manufacture for Sun. But Sun bought Frontida pharmaceutical manufacturing plant and make their own. I believe they since sold the plant so don't know the status of their formulary.
Both Sun and Aurobindo are manufactures that are also sold as the brand NorthStar. So, if you get filled with NorthStar, it could be either. NorthStar is not owned by Sun pharma. It is owned by McKesson, wholesale distributer. NorthStar sources meds from companies around the world. May even make some of their own.

And to reiterate, all amphetamine and methylphenidate based medications sold in the U.S. are manufactured in the US by law, no matter where the company is originally from. Sun and Aurobindo are Indian companies. Nothing against India, just that their pharma industry has a bad reputation for cheap low quality generics that they gain market share by underpricing better ones. They have a huge market share in the U.S. compared to many other companies in general.

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HCStymie Says:

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Nothstar has 2 generics registered if I recall correctly. I believe one is made by Aurobindo and the other by Sun. Or at least, was made by Sun but they sold their plant to someone else. And the formulary I am not sure if they retain rights to it or just sold it to Northstar. Northstar does not manufacture it's own generic Adderall. They buy it from a manufacturer and sell it under their own name. Many brands do that.

So if you do a search on a pill identifier website, it may come up saying it is Aurobindo or Sun. Based on the inscription on the pill, sounds like Sun. Aurobindo would start with a "U" followed by a number.

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Rog Says:

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I think most of us are awhere that Adderall is a combination of amphetamines. These salts have their own characteristics as well as different functions. During the 80's amphetamines were reformulated to remove certain characteristics that were deemed undesirable for instance extreme euphoria also duration. I've been taking Adderall for many years. I fail to understand why different manufacturers produce formulations that are so radically different from the name brand. The brand Adderall improves focus increases concentration allowing your brain to retain information while some generics do not have these benefits. What works for one person doesn't work for another. This can be very frustrating, unfortunately the brand name Adderall is not affordable for most of us and our insurance doesn't cover it. This needs to be addressed for the better so we all can receive the benefits of takings this medication.Sun works quite well for myself while it doesn't for others, , it's time for this shortage to end so Teva can become available to all of us again. There's no reason for this non sense. Shortages happen from time to time but this one is intentional in my opinion.

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