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i took 8 mg suboxone at 5am. when can i take heroin again?

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Ok, Justin, I am also a heroin addict, I am not using anymore because I have been on methadone for many years, I also think the judgmental posters should just not answer if you dont like the question..Maybe Justin does want attention, but then maybe he does need help, so to heck with you Sue, and the same to the bible thumpers..To answer your question Justin, you shouldn't use any opiate within 12 hours of suboxone or you can go into instant withdrawls. and that is no joke..I just want to add that all of you preachy types can go to He** because any person asking for help deserves to have their questions answered NO MATTER WHAT. I am sure Justin knows what heroin is, just like I do, and if anyone had told me 20 years ago that heroin was bad, I would been pissed off to be treated like an idiot.Thanks to Tedd, mark Sid_vicious proud atheist, and anyone else who is good enough to stand up to the bullies here, This little board has always been friendly, but with this thread, I feel the dummies from the old vicodin board come out. Just be helpful to this mans situation, answer his questions only if you know what you are talking about , and leave God and or Jesus out of it. and please no more talk about rehabs and 12 steps..It is called compassion...And to Lori, not everyone is Christian, so STFU...

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Susan, your not good people. and by the way if you can't get a script for pain meds when you need it?? you must have a problem with them yourself, because if your not a seeker, you can go get a script no problem!

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Just to clarify what pat said, if you have taking suboxone first, then you dont risk going in to WD taking any opiate, you risk major WD if you take the suboxone to quick after opiates..

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sorry u getting preached to listen u know ur chances of od are there i know my advice is a lil 2 late but i just wanted 2 say b safe give it at least 24 to 36 hrs to avoid od. y are u taking suboxone ...are u trying to get clean if not prescribed by doc realize that if u take an opiate within 12-24 hrs u could have immediate withdrawal so be safe good luck get clean i have been for 8 yrs its not so bad !!!1




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My son has been on heroin for approx 6 months and he is on suboxone now and has been for a few weeks. What is the common time span for him to start decreasing the suboxone doses?

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Hi Summer..Don't even think about that right now. The important thing is he is getting healthy.Some people stay on it for a short time, and I have heard some patients are on a year or more. The only thing to think about is he isn't useing heroin anymore.Your son with his doctors help will know when and if he should start to taper. First he has to get stablized on the suboxone..Take it slow...Good Luck for you both..Just don't try to talk him out of quitting it b4 he is ready that is when people relapse

PHN

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To been there dun that..I wish you the best. I just hope that you didn't mean it when you said your sobrity wasn't that bad.Life needs to be much better than that..That is how I felt for 12 years and that is why I relasped..For me methadone makes my life worth living, and life is fun..Without it I felt empty..But we all are different..I hope your life is wonderful soon!!!!!

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This is for Matt the 2 year Suboxone user who still can't spell worth a s**t. You are a sorry excuse for a human being saying that you hope people die - be careful what you hope for it may be you it happens to...I feel sorry for you, you are to be pittied

PHB

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TO EVERYONE OFFERING THEIR ADVICE AND USING THIS AS A PLACE TO RANT AND RAVE ABOUT ALL YOUR OPINIONS ON LIFE - Just answer the person's dang question. This seems like an opinion in itself but I'm just reminding you all what this is FOR - a place where anyone who knows a little info can help someone out. It is not your job to tell him what to do - Focus on yourselves and making yourselves better. And if you're on a site discussing oxycontin and suboxone, etc. - chances are you were desperate once and therefore a hypocrit. Answer his question and give him some help - it's his choice and you can't save him by being judgmental - that's what makes us addicts want to use MORE! Do you know anything about treating addiction? The person HAS to want it themselves or else it won't work. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE - ASK ANYONE - No addict will stay clean unless it is what he or she wants for themselves and not what their parents or friends or strangers on a website who don't even know them want them to do. BY THE WAY - This came up in one of my CD Med groups and my PSYCHIATRIST SAID that you have to wait 48 hours before taking anything including METHADONE - methadone, unlike suboxone, doesn't keep you from getting high if you decide to use. Suboxone blocks certain receptors, making it impossible for those neurotransmitters to get through and have an affect on one. So don't waste your drugs and wait 48 hours, just to be sure. Trust me, it'll be worth it. And that goes for those interested in switching from suboxone to methadone because of the extreme side effects many experience while on suboxone (I know, I take it) including becoming drenched in sweat everytime it's hot or you move two inches, having dry mouth that won't go away unless you're constantly sipping on water - which is also embarassing - and feeling so tired that you have to take a caffeine pill to be able to get up out of bed, as well as getting daily migraines. Believe me - I'm so thankful that suboxone is available to us so that we can change our lives and make some sort of contribution to society - but at times the side affects are a lot to handle and you just want to give up but remember, as each drop of sweat drips down from your chest to your belly button - you are now able to BE PRESENT and have a chance at a normal life. For those who wish to use - it's their choice so please leave them alone, especially if you're an addict yourself. THANK YOU

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For gosh damn it. Myself and a few other people did offer our experiences and answered the posters questions. We are not all judgemental SOB's so please dont put us all in the same mindset as Matt who claims to be an addict but who wishes death on other addicts like me..The poster has been told exacally what happens and when I answered the question I answered because it happened to me..I only speak from experience

PAT

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Gosh damn it..You seem to have the same experience with suboxone I did. With methadone I still get hot flashes, etc, but suboxone just didn't agree with me, and I did hang with it for 2 weeks. I guess we are all just different. I agree with most of your post except the fact that you can use methadone and still get loaded..At small doses yes, but I kept increasing my dose until the desire to use went away, and also no matter what I can't feel any opiate. I couldn't stop using until I got my dose to my blocking dose. I could OD myself and I wouldnt feel it. So when you see a methadone patient on 30mg who is loaded, believe me, they are on that low dose so they can use and still feel it..I know because I have been there done that. Today I am on 165mg of methadone. I don't nodd, I don't crave any opiates and I haven't used any opiates since July 1, 2002..I am, living a normal life only because of methadone..Don't get me wrong, I sometimes would love to feel that euphoria again, but for me, that means death..And I want to live today...

P

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the kid asked a question.....so for those of you who dont have a correct answer to the question to the best of your knowledge, then STFU......why would u even be here to comment on this subject if you cant answer the question. take your preaching somewhere where someone asks for it. i hate people who force their opinions and ideas on others.

here try this 1 out. i love heroin. you should all shoot it. god loves you anyways. so just blast a hit........see, my opinion isnt the same as others. so shoot me. its sounds stupid what i wrote because you dont agree with it right. well guess what, there are those that dont agree with you, so shove it. start a blog or something on the dangers of drug addiction, or on the benefits of rehab.

but why the F you would preach your meaningless propaganda in response to an honest question by someone looking for an honest answer is beyond me. do you really think the BS that you judgemental fools preach is gonna be taken seriously by the person who asked the question???? if you do you are an idiot. and say what you want about me, you know nothing about me. i just hate judgemental people who speak and preach to people they know nothing about.

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and to the matt clown, the medication is to ease withdrawal symptoms. if you think suboxone is for people who want to quit and thats it,then you are as stupid as your post indicates. it takes alot more than suboxones to quit. and just because someone wants to quit doesnt mean, hey ill take some suboxones, and wow, my addictions cured you are a moron matt, and i would bet the house that 9 0ut of 10 addicts ive come across are better people than you. you judgemental imp, go kill yourself and make this world a better place with 1 less scumbag on this earth. and the only people i wish such things on are people who think they should decide who should live and die on this earth. and i should note, that although im kind of contradicting myself by saying this matt kid should go kill himself, i only feel that way about ignorant people like him who are void of all empathy and not that way towards anyone else on this beautiful earth.

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I have been taking sub for four days and have been dwindling the dose---I took 2 eight mg first day(thurs), second day 2 eight mg,(fri) 1mg(Sat) and 1/2 today. I was going to take 1/2 tomorrow and then I am out. I am scared because what will happen if it isn't enough---I havent had anywithdrawal symptoms since I took the first dosage Wednesday night 8mg. I have been doing very well and havent had any cravings---could this nightmare really be over and I can start a new life or will I go thru hell when I am totally off the sub---I wanted to see if it would work and it has but now I am worried something bad is going to happen since I don't have anymore--I was on oxy's and have been clean for four days now!!! Could this be enough sub to be finally done with me abusing drugs.

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do u feel and act high when on symboxon

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You preachy ass mfers telling him hes an addict he needs god- you are wasting your breath trying to feel better about yourselves. You SUCK!!!!

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I was on a very small amount of suboxone and relapsed. It was about 2mg a day for like 2 weeks from a 2 year herion habit. I went back to my doc who said I quit too soon and that's why I had withdrawal from the suboxone. I took 4mg this morning and am so depressed I want to do a bag of H. I'm not sure if that's a bad idea because it could hurt me or cause I won't feel it. It's been 13 hours since the 4mg. I wish I had just waited till I was really ready to start the suboxone. Good luck to everyone needing it here. I've heard of Subs working but don't know myself yet. It takes away all the painfull withdrawal for now. The doc said once your on it long enough with the proper doseing you won't get withdrawal when you stop taking it. Judgemental people all have their own skeletons.

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Ok people. Your not going to help him. He just wants a question answered. Im sure he knows heroin is bad. Duh. If you want to answer the question answer the question. if not then mind your business.

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puh lease! no one is better than anyone on here..people are simply asking QUESTIONS not asking for a has been who thinks she's better than everyone else to preach to anyone about what her kids or husbands doing in the next room. trust me sweetheart none of us looked up at mom and said i wanna be a junkie!! but s**t happens and NEVER say NEVER. i was a stuck up little bitch at one point too and thought i would never! but ive come to learn the things i talked sooo much s**t about and thought was so bad comes back ten times on you. your opinion isnt gonna stop anyone from doing from what they're doing and you can stop trying to be a hero because well YOUR NOT.

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yea people who are telling you that you need help are like democrats when asked a question about government , they change the subject and completely avoid the issues , he f---ing knows where to get help , hes asking a question to fellow dope users , if you dont know or have any experience.

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