Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Page 4)

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hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind

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Well Matt I read through your whole story and I really want to be a 1 in 25 as well! I'm about to start my life over! I'm 41 and been on either oxycodne-contin for about 8 yrs and the past 8 mths the dreadful h! I'm so ready to write back to this page on my 1 in 25 success story! I'v lost my family some close friends n about to loose my buisness! I'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for my 21 yr old girlfriend to get out of work so we can try and come up with money to go to the city and get some more h!!! When I shud be at my tattoo shop making money hand over fist but I'm to sick to work! Iv been on the net looking for help in Wi. And there just isn't any for opiates? Or if u do find some your going to go broke getting any help! So I too am going to resort to hitting the streets in search of some boxers. Iv only used them a few times before with success if it wasn't for the voice telling me " just party on the weekend" pfsst! To that! That was 3 yrs ago! So I have one chance left I have a sister that is not going to let me die on her watch! Or loose my beautiful 2 yr old son! She lit a fire under my ass and is helping me get through this mess iv gotten myself in to. but I'm so glad I have her to help me out! I didn't ask for this, it started with a simple shoulder surgery and a Dr. That just handed me pills like candy! Next thing you know its. 8 yrs later n I'm sitting in a parking lott telling u my life story! Well Matt I will be in touch with you on this web page and I will let you kno if the boxer in me came out victorious or if the voice in the back of my head k.o. my ass! Wish me luck! Well Siss here I come, I will see you in the A.M.! I'm ready go a dozen with the Devil!!!

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Hi, I have been on Suboxone for 5 years.I took a lot of pills for a lot of years, you have to wait at least 1 in a half 2 days if you can do that before you start taking suboxone or you will get sick and it won't work. I would start with 2 in a half .one in morning and than do halfs if you have 8mg I ended up taking subutex its alot cheaper and works the same .You should take it for at least 3 weeks tappering down by half.Of course I am not a Dr. I really hope you get through this, it was tough but with this drug you can have a normal life.

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DC, I never reply to posts but you have hit it on the head; obvious you are speaking from your soul. The hardest thing really is to let go and never look back and to truly be DONE.

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Try to wait until you need to take it not when u want to

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Ok you said you started w/ a half, take a half for the 1st 4 days then 1/4 for next 2-3 days. in this will mos. def. work bro. the point is, is you don't need soboxone forever the reality is you can kick opiates w/ 4-5 8mg tabs. I've used heroin for 10yrs.+ & i can still kick on 4 8mg tabs. Start big & ween down when using your subs.

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I would need more than a half the first day.... so take as much as you need to feel better i would say up to 2 the first day then lower ever day you go...

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I am right where you were two months ago. I'm on day 2 no opiates with the smallest dose of subox. I have stopped before for a month or so but this time I am so tired of being sick and what I have done to my life. I read your entire post and it is making me feel better already. ( I was starting too feel a little blah)

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Look, I'm trying to do a very low dose rapid taper to get over very mild but debilitating withdrawals from moderate Vicodin, methadone, codeine, and tramadol abuse. Sounds stupid for someone whose worst symptoms are sneezing, watery eyes, headache and lethargy. I could have taken 5 days off from work and been through the worst. However, I am a full blown addict. Suboxone is best used as a tool to keep you clear headed enough to join a support group, find a sponsor, and walk you through the 12 steps of recovery. I promise you if you just take that step to go to a meeting, and talk to people with similar problems you will feel more relief than you would by simply "maintaining" your dose for years. I know countless people who were on high doses of oxys, methadone, heroin and suboxone. And suboxone I'm talking 24 mg daily for 4-12 months, slowly weening, while seeing a therapist and finding either an AA or NA sponsor (you'll find alcoholics in NA, addicts in AA. It's the same disease, the same solution.) these people do NOT got thru the prolonged withdrawal you guys describe. What drugs like suboxone are supposed to do are stabalize you so you can work on your recovery. It's cool being able to talk on forums like this, but getting out of the house, surrounding yourself with people who have been thru what your going thru and talking to them is where recovery starts. We addicts need a support group, we need to go out in public and admit we have a problem. Sitting around the house thinking about withdrawal or reading about withdrawal will only increase your already insane amount of fear. When I was 27 I was arrested, coming off of a 50mg methadone/8mg Xanax habit. I had been on a 5 month binge. The first day was terrible. I'd be crying, smashing my walls, breaking stuff and out of no where laughing hysterically. I was a mess and I wanted to blow my head off. I went to a local AA meeting and it was NOT what I thought. People of all ages, cute girls, people laughing and having fun. I was actually mad. "Why are these f***ing addicts laughing and having fun?" Cuz they share experiance strength and hope, without judging you. They are mostly recovered people. They keep attending people like us. That's why they're there. I made some lifelong friends that first day. We went out to eat afterwards. I felt better after that. The 6 months of horrid withdrawal did not happen as my therapist promised me it would. Please, realize there are people who are just like you, who suffer the exact same way you do, who are looking for a solution, and a friend, and hope. Just like you. Chances are there's a meeting within a mile of your house. I would never deny that withdrawal is real, especially to those of you who are have been on high suboxone doses for years. But you are literally cheating yourself by not at least giving recovery (12 steps) a try. I promise it will become one of the most vital tools in not only your sobriety but in all of life's problems. I relapsed two years ago and stayed away from all the wonderful people who helped my kick my alcoholism. I was too ashamed to look them in the eyes and tell them I f***ed up. But I finally caved, broke down crying and poured out my heart to these people. Not only did they make me feel important and cared for, but three of my old buddies admitted to not being sober as well, and now were all in this fight together. It's like I have teammates in the battle against this disease. You all deserve the same. Don't think your alone. Don't think your problems are unique. And you don't have to be sober to join AA/NA. Just gotta have the desire to quit. That means if you f*** up you can be honest and people will help you. For some of you it may well be the first time you've ever felt accepted in your lives. I know that was true for me. My point is there is a solution that works for people everyday. Don't try to fight this disease on your own. Us addicts treat ourselves like utter s***. Be good to yourselves. You deserve help, friends, and acceptance. And most of all sobriety and happiness. All of that can be yours if your just willing, open minded, and honest. Not saying your withdrawal is all in your head, trust me I had DTs and seizures from drinking. I'm just saying there's one proven way to combat addiction: find people with similar problems and talk to them. Once we start working at our recovery, we straighten out spiritually. And when that has happened, we straighten out physically and mentally. And don't get me wrong forums like this are sobriety tools in themselves. Just please do yourself a favor and check out a 12 step meeting if you've never tried one. Don't be afraid. Chances are you won't be the only "newcomer" in the room. There's so much love and understanding at these meetings. All of you deserve that love, acceptance, and chance at a new life. Good luck and god bless!

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Hey, you said you were in philly, I'm tring to get clean off H, it would just be nice to have someone local who knows what i'm going through to talk to.

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Methadone saves lives

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Hey I'm in south jersey and going to start subs soon if you want company or someone to talk to email me at {edited for privacy}

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I feel u Matt. I've been on PERCS for 15 years. Moved up to heroin for 8 mths. Withdrawals are a mutha#@*+# but just living everyday getting high spending waay too much $. Being shady and grimey to find a way to get ur fix. I really think the mental addiction is just as bad as physical I went to get some bags last night it fell thru and a dudë gave me 2 subs. So I'm ready. Good luck all. Time to withdrawal. To withdrawal my life back. ONE LOVE.

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2 subs arent gonna keep you well throughout the whole withdrawl you better find some more subs.....

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Hey I'm in Center City Philly, you said you were in south jersey, I started the "program" almost two weeks ago, it's going very well for me, it's reassuring that there are other people that are close that I can relate to on this issue as I have kept my problems primarily to myself, it'd be nice to hear from you. -Jake

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i havent started yet :( but i need too!

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I had 12 years clean n have been shooting dope for 6 months. I would give anything to have my sobriety back. I just started subs.today, gonna try to detox in a week. U am so scared. Everyone thinks I am still clean n if I tell anyone I will lose my kids job n fiance. Can't go back to na mtgs cuz my kids father goes n he will take my kids if he finds out. Just needed to get that out. Thx

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Hi my name is John. I just want to share about my experience and hopefully get some feedback. I was in jail from September to mid November. I kicked cold turky in the intake part of jail. Felt a lot better after a week. My sleep was off. It took about a month for me to sleep normally. I got out of jail and was clean for about a month. I got back on dope and was using for about 2 months. I took subs after about 16 hours of my last dose and went into precipitated withdrawals. I felt bad for about 3 days. Stayed on subs for 2 days after and relapsed again. Went on a 1 1/2 week binge and decided to stop. This time I took 2mg roughly about 26 hours after my last dose. I was using h by the way. It was a real smooth transfer felt hardly no withdraw. I'm on day 4 and an taking about 2 mg of subs a day. 1 mg every 12 hours. I feel normal no withdraws at all. I am thinking of taking another 1 my dose tommorow morning and then split my last 2 mg of subs into 8 pieces and take them as needed meaning holding off until I feel unpleasant. I have been doing opiates for about. 6 years and have detoxed successfully about 6 times. Taking subs for more than a week seems silly to me. Every rehab i been to only keeps you on them a maximum of 8 days. I have felt completely amazing after that time but a few times i did feel a bit sluggish and had some minor withdraws, diaria, hot cold flashes. It really depends on your diet and exercise plans. It is all in your mind as well. Hope for the best, believe in something. Make goals and talk about your feelings. I am a chronic relapser. I have felt terrible withdraws and I will forget about them in a short time and go back to using thinking i can use a few days and stop. It is a terrible trick my mind plays on me. I love the drug. I am only 27 years old. I have issues with relationships with girlfriends and myself. I feel like I'm not good enough for the girl and I beat myself up. Using dope puts me at ease for a little while. It quiets the ongoing battle that takes place in my mind. I know I'm a good person, friendly, attractive, hard worker, good heart, ect. But with brick city being a 10 min drive or 20 min train ride away, the temptation will always be there. I thought I changed in jail. I came out not wanting to do h ever again. But I got into a relationship and didn't feel comfortable with myself. I don't know what tommorow will bring but today i am going to not use. I think that's the only thing that works, is workin on today or this hour or this minute. Good luck to everyone who suffers with the same thing. I will pray for anyone who is struggling. It's amazing how quickly things change. The obsession to use will creep up and slap you in the face. Peace

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Hi I was wondering if it is possible to dextox from roxys using subs for only 7 days . I don't wanna get addicited to subs . I was takin 2-4 depending on the day . I took one full sub for 2 days in a row now on my 3rd day I wanna cut it in half and do that for 2 days ..then do 2 mgs for 2 days ...will this work ?

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I would like to share my story and hopefully get some feedback. I am a 32 yr old mother of 3 AMAZING sons. I was in a very serious car accident in June of 2011. The accident wasn't my fault but I was seriously injured. I had 6 broken ribs and my knee cap was shattered. My orthopedic dr tried to piece my knee back together and hold it together with pins and wire. I was still having swelling and pain afterwards so I had another surgery in March of 2012 to take the metal out and replace my knee cap. After each surgery my dr had given me perc 7.5mg to be taken every 4hrs around the clock. I wore a brace to keep my knee from bending for 4 months and within that time my dr had prescribed 120 perc 7.5mgs every month. (That's 580 pills in a 4month period) I also went through extensive physcial therapy during that time. When I went back for my last follow up appt my dr said he couldn't give me any more pain meds.. I would need to get them from my primary care dr. (Which I didn't have). Its been almost 2yrs and I still have severe pain in my knee and my lower back. I found a primary dr and he told me he doesn't prescribe narcotics.. because a lot of people are dr shopping so it ruins it for the ones that really need it. He referred my to a pain management dr who would only prescribe me muscles relaxers (which knock me out so I can't take them). During this long process of trying to get pain management the legit way.. I of course couldn't take the pain so I turned to the streets. Now I don't know about other places but its very hard to find anything less then a perc 30 in columbus ohio. Needless to say they are very expensive.. $30 a pill. So I have been buying 1 a day for the past yr and a half. I would take a half in the morning and a half a night. I didn't think I would withdrawl because I wasn't abusing them. I was taking them for legit pain and making sure I wasn't over doing it. Well I was wrong. I didn't withdrawl as bad as I thought (or as I've seen others) but bad enough. I had a horriable headache.. and the worst hot/cold flashes ever.. and my calves ached a little bit.. but not to bad. I took my last half of pill yesterday morning around 10am. About 530 lastnight I started to feel bad.. so I turned to the streets again.. but this time I bought suboxone.. much cheaper and I feel AMAZING. I'm not withdrawling at all. I took 1 strip lastnight and then a half when I woke up today about 8am.. its now 7hrs later and I'm starting to feel bad again. So my question is how should I take the subs and for how long to get through the w/d's.. but not get addicted and w/d from subs. I don't feel like I'm an addict.. but I do feel dependent. I wasn't taking the pills to get high.. but to control the pain (which by the way the subs are helping with the pain also). I'm hoping once I get all this crap out of my system and my body isn't used to having it everyday that I can just take tylenol for the pain.. and hoping it will help. What do you guys think? What's the best way to get off of opaties but still be able to control legit pain? Any thoughts/advice would be helpful and very appreciated. Thanks in advance:-)

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Hi. I don't know you but your comment really inspired me. I'm currently on suboxone and was looking to see how much was really needed to get off being as the one I have just taken is my last chance because I'm all out due to repeated failures. If you could email me just to answer some questions and help me out you'd literally be saving my life.

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