I Have Been Taking Hydrocodone 10 And My Doctor Just Changed Me To Acetaminophen Codeine 3 (Page 5)

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I have been taking Hydrocodone 10 since March for RSD the doctor changed me this week to Acetaminophen/cod3. The doctor said that the law made it where he can not give the hydrocodone any more. I want to know if they are the same? I was told they are the same. I'm scared to take it because I have sleep apnea and a real sensitivity to codone. I get breathing problems and rashes. Not sure what to do at this point. I can not take most opioid drugs.

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Please get a life, people come here because they're having serious issues and need help, nobody likes a judgmental person condemning their grammar.

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Actually it depends on the state you are in... for example in Washington State there are now a lot of hoops that MDs have to jump through to provide pain management services to their patients. They have to sign up through the state and take extra (specific) continuing ed classes. While I do not think they are regulating it the way they intended or said they would there are special requirments.

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No were near the same. Ty#3 is useless.

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I know I'm late but I hope, or someone else suggested that you get another doctor. That doctor, depending on his licenses and certification may not be able to write prescriptions for that class of drugs. You should not have to be affected due to his discretions. You may have to go under pain management. If your doctor is under pain management already get a referral, from your primary physician, to go under another pain management doctor/clinic.

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SmartOne, any dr with a medical license, a DEA number and CDS License can prescribe pain meds to chronic pain patients.

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Keep d e a out of prescription laws.what the he'll do they think they are?Nazi controlling.doctors don't treat patients government does

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Has anyone ever had a seizure after taking ultram/tramadol? I have R/A & Ankolosingspondylitis, diagnosed w/ R/A in 1991 & Anko in 2009. Have had around 25 orthopaedic surgeries and have taken Norco for chronic pain (usually daily) and oxycontin, mscontin & usually percocet during surgery post-up and then wean myself down back to Norco. In 2010, I discussed w/my Dr about trying ultram since it isn't a narcotic and I would be able to drive while on it. I had 2 seizures the 2nd day I was on it. The PA at the hospital knew right away the seizures were caused by the ultram; she saw it in one of her clinicals. I have only encountered one other person who also suffered a seizure from ultram and it was a nurse. Because of the seizures my Drs obviously decided to discontinue and to continue to take the norco, oxy and percocet when needed for chronic pain and the surgeries. I have been curious about why I have never been addicted to narcotics since I take them on a reg basis for the R/A and surgeries, and when my pain level is low or if I have to drive that day I take ibuprofen (which I love but have ate holes in my stomach). When I question my Dr about not being addicted to narcotics, they say it is because I have real pain and always followed the dosing directions & wean myself off as soon as I can. Anyways, I was thinking about trying ultram again, since I rarely have heard of others having seizures and from my understanding it is a very good drug to control R/A pain, and it has been over 6 years.

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In what situation does lying to the patient good? If I'm lucid, and of sound mind I want the truth. I'd consider lying to the patient as malpractice. Even withholding info is deceit, which is lying at it core.

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Smith, morphine is an opiate, and hydrocodone is a semi-synthetic opioid. But you're correct, they are different.
But the way they "kill pain" is essentially the same: They trick your brain into thinking there's no pain. The high is a side effect, it's not what makes you pain free, therefore judging its efficacy upon how high you are is inaccurate and could cause a nocebo effect (negative placebo effect).

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Marty, lying to a patient or not telling a patient certain things is not Medically Malpractice.

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BL,........
I TOTALLY DISAGREE. LYING IS NEVER OKAY.
ESPECIALLY WITH MY PHYSICIAN. TRUST? ETHICS?

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All of this information is disheartening to me. My daughter, who has chronic Lyme disease, cannot get her pain management dr to meet her pain needs. He prescribes her Norco, 7.5 mg. 3 times a day. No matter how horrible her pain is, the doctor acts like an unfeeling robot. Of course this is after he takes her money and gives her a drug panel almost every visit. Why do they call themselves "pain management" doctors in the first place. They do nothing, but sit there, and print out a piece of paper.

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I have been taking hydrocodone 10 325 for three years I want to come off pain pills. I don't want to go into withdraw so I'm real funny when I take suboxone it only takes a very small amount for me. Can I just take a little without without being in withdraw

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You are wrong. You can get 3 of the 1 month supplies called in. You then need to visit your doctor every 90 days.

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Re: Maxundergroundchem (# 22) Expand Referenced Message

Where the hell is this going? I have been reading ALL of your posts, and there are many, and you ramble on and on about nothing. Makes no damn sense. By the way, your spelling and grammar is HORRIBLE! For someone who, as you say, has worked in the medical and chemistry fields, you are NOT very educated, nor very smart.

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Re: Michele (# 95) Expand Referenced Message

What's your point? Which post are you talking about? If these posts irritate you... move on.

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Tylenol 3 with codeine is definitely NOT the same thing as hydrocodone. Your Dr is LYING to u. If he is prescribing Tylenol 3 with codeine he CAN prescribe hydrocodone as well. There are NO laws in your state saying so. If your doctor knows about the sleep apnea and your bad reaction with codeine, he's opening himself up to a medical malpractice legal suit. I would bring all of that to his attention and if he still continues to lie, tell him you're contacting the state boards, your lawyer, etc... Good luck!

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- I have no idea what a reasonable comparison is in the eyes of a non pain patient, who's speaking from a scientific strand point... but in my opinion, it takes (3 or 4) Tylenol 3 to offer less relief than just one Norco 10. I think it's definitely a significant downgrade. In my experience- there's a big gap in what's supposed to be adequate, and what's [actually] adequate to offer sufficient pain relief.
Huge Difference Between What Science Says, and What Reality Is for Someone Living with Chronic Pain -

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