Whats The Difference Between Liquid And Pill Form Of Methadone? (Page 3)

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I think i have a drug test coming up at the clinic and i have methadone pills instead of the liquid that i usually take. Will taking the pill form give me a dirty urine at the clinic?

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Rake it 30 minutes before dose is due. It takes that long to digest and break it down. By law you can take it an hour before does is due. There are different types of methadone I just read though.

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I am prescribed 10 mg methadone pills. I've been out of it for 2 wks so I took some liquid methadone the day before a urine lab test. Will my pain management Dr be able to tell I took the liquid by the binders in the liquid and not the 10 mg pills that I'm prescribed? Help .pam

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Hello, How soon after taking once liquid methadone (from program) I can get dose of Adnok-N (Subutex with Naloxone) ?

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No offense but I can't believe you're even asking that question!... Methadone is methadone !.. I just can't believe you accually asked that ?.. No offense. Not everyone is up on drugs as others. Take care my frnd..and again, NO OFFENSE..

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Some liquid methadone is actually methadose...same active ingredient obviously, but I'm not sure whether ur test gets sent to the lab, but they can pick apart anything, I know first hand.. but they have to be checking close... so Imuch not sure man

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Hi, I'm on liquid methadone for 3 years now and I'm finally down to 35mg, was on 140 at first. I hate that I even started this drug cuz even 1 day without have me bad withdraws. So if you can keep from getting back on it, I would stay off of it. Can u ask you how you got off it a year? I'm going down 5mg every 2 weeks but even that is hard for me. I can't sleep, I hurt all over and vomiting. I really need some help to get off this horrible stuff.

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Cris, when switching from methadone to Suboxone/Subutex, they want you to taper to 20mg, ideally, and then when you're ready to switch, you are supposed to go three days with no methadone before the first dose of Suboxone. My friend and her husband did it... she had absolutely no problems making the switch, but she followed all of the recommendations. Her husband couldn't wait the three days before taking the Suboxone and ended up in withdrawal... that led to a brief heroin relapse, but he eventually stopped that and went to Suboxone. They were both very successful on both methadone & Suboxone for years... both things worked well for them.

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I have been on methadone since I was a teenager, January 2017 will be 14 years. It probably saved my life. From my second day on methadone, I stopped taking heroin and haven't touched it since. Unfortunately, I had a serious accident a few months into being clean... I ended up with a spine injury and severe chronic pain. I had a pain management doctor who gave me OxyContin and fentanyl patches, but the methadone clinic wasn't big on that, so they said they'd manage my pain and pushed my methadone dose up to almost 300mg (peak and through showed I needed a split dose, which would have been best for pain, but my clinic didn't do split dosing). So that was ok for a number of years, and I stayed on methadone even though I was clean because I needed it for pain. About two years ago the clinic told me they can't treat pain patients and, since I had been clean for so long, I was no longer an addiction patient, so I had to leave there and go to pain management. After a nightmare search, I found a place that said they might be willing to treat me with methadone, but that my dose was way too high, not "a pain dose." So I have been lowering my dose, but they haven't given me a specific number, the dose at which I could leave the clinic and be treated by them. So I am wondering if anyone else has ever successfully transferred from a methadone clinic to pain management? And also, how low do I need to go? What would be "a pain dose"? I am almost down to 200mgs, and I am waking up with withdrawal symptoms every day (my methadone never lasted me 24 hours, never... not until I got to my top dose at almost 300mgs)... so I need to move to pain management and twice daily dosing soon. I was hoping 180mgs would be good, two daily doses of 90mgs. Anyone think that is low enough for pain management? I truly hope so because the clinic wants me gone.

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Try dropping your dose in water. Drink it like liquid. The pills seemed to work better for me this way.

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To all posters,

Ok so ANYONE on a stabilized dose of methadone as a treatment protocol for opiate/opiod addiction will recieve NO EFFECTIVE ANALAGESIA FOR PAIN In addition to being an addict I suffer from chronic pain and as a person treated with methadone I can attest it PROVIDES ZERO CLINICAL RELIEF FROM PAIN.I WISH PEOPLE WITH NO OR LIMITED EXPERIENCE WITH METHADONE WOULD REFRAIN FROM POSTING INACCURATE OR MISLEADING INFORMATION ,As it only complicates the issue regarding this modality of treatment.Just because you believe you posses some knowledge in this capacity doesn't mean your qualified to post such pertinent information on this frequently misunderstood drug.

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Rudy,

I'd suggest you seek a second opinion since once a stabilized dose of methadone for the treatment of opiate addiction is achieved, little can be done to augment this drug and dosage to achieve adequate pain relief for the primary treatment of pain control. In cases like yours a switch to something like suboxone may serve you best. Methadone when used at a reduced dosage can be very effective for intractable pain conditions but once elevated doses are utilized for maintenance purposes, dosage adjustments regardless of amounts are RARELY effective IN controlling pain. I'd highly suggest you consider an optional alternative to methadone for this purpose. I sincerely wish you all the best going forward. Regards, K.

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Yes , there would be an indication. The indication will be a spike in the methadone levels in youe urine. Methadone pills are the same as the liquid but if you're only suppose to have 72 mg and you get popped for a UA and you been taking extra they will know you're taking more at home. The ppl in the lab aren't stupid they measure your levels and document them and if they don't match what you're prescribed then hey guess what you're using illicitly.

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Hi Mike. I was having the same problem with Methadose (liquid form) I started splitting my dose in half. AM/PM and my doctor recommended splitting 3 or even 4 times to spread it out. Whatever you do, try to keep splitting it before taking more. Cheers, and good luck.

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No...Methadone is methadone is methadone. Sure wish I could get a daily dose of it. I was taking 20 mgs only every day, every day, unless I was in jail which was never longer than 40 days. Then, back home and on the methadone plan. I damaged myself. For 9 yrs give or take six months I had the blessed assurance every night that I went to sleep that that dose would be waiting there for me in the morning. Two yrs ago I lost my connect. Better way of saying it would be, "Dr. lost his license to practice. What did I lose? That is easy, my mother f******g mind. For nine years my brain didn't need to produce dopamine or serotonin or any other neurotransmitter feel good stuff. The last two years has been nothing short of a horror story and that I haven't landed in prison is rather shocking. I have been going to a practitioner don't know how to spell practitioner I guess. Ok. maybe I can. I digress. So I went to her at my initial visit and told her straight up and down, if I want to get out of pain I'll take ibuprofen. I have been taking methadone 20 mgs no more or less for nine years to keep my f***'n sanity. Well, she isn't comfortable with prescribing methadone due to doing it in the past for someone that couldn't hold their mud and ended up in the hospital. Yeah, so she was comfortable with prescribing me 20 mgs of methadone a day but she didn't have any qualms over prescribing me 80 mgs of OxyContin a day. My health plan wouldn't pay for it so she prescribed me morphine, Vicodin and Xanax. Shhhh....Don't tell no one. Here is the jist...Popping pills all day long isn't what I'm about or want to be about. I could think of a million or two other things I could do with my day other than try and figure out how the f*** I'm going to medicate myself. Sorry for so many F'words. None of the drugs that I just mentioned do it for me. I could get up in the morning and take ten Vicodin 10/325 washem down with some hot coffee and you'd never know the difference. The horror. I remember a time when just two of them and I was pretty good to go for about 9 hours. You see, I suffer enormously from depression and have this thing that is like, perpetual sorrow. I don't know if it from the guilt I feel for, killing, or if I'm an empath and I feel the madness and pain of others. That sounds kinda self-important doesn't it? It's like, you see your pain is all about me. Lol...Where the f*** would you and your pain be if I wasn't here to feel it? Please be detailed...Wanna know how I got here? I'll tell ya anyway. The other day an angel showed up and gave me like 60 mgs of methadone in 5 mg. pills which I've been nursing. The first day I took the beloved 20 mgs and moved from being a mental and physical invalid that is paralyzed by fear, into a guy that is productive. I won't go into all that I was able to accomplish. We'll just say that it was a lot. Competently. Today I only took 10 mgs. of methadone and 7 Vicodin. Got a lot done again and, had a decent conversation with my neighbor. We always do for the most part. That is just par for the course when you got two guys talking and one guy, spent his life as either a cop or a corrections officer and the other guy, behind bars. That isn't to imply that I'm a bad guy. Just a breed apart. No skin beefs. No murders, that I'm aware of. Ok...I'm outta here. Hope this goes through and I hope someone gets a kick out of it. You be the judge on what is real and what isn't. I'll give you a hint: It's all true. I'm Shad and I'll be here all week. Peace and wish me luck. Furthermore, pray for me if so be that you serve the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

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I am currently on methadone from a clinic and have been for about three years now. I have not gone through a full detox from methadone but I tried once a couple years ago and I made it about 4 days before I gave in. I will tell you the worst detox/withdrawals I've ever had has been from Subutex. My withdrawal symptoms lasted for MONTHS. I still wasn't right after 2 and a half months so I began methadone (which I totally regret since I had made it so far). But with coming off the Subutex, I had the usual withdrawal symptoms of nausea & vomiting, restlessness (especially of the legs), back and body pain, depression & hopelessness, diarrhea, hot flashes & cold sweats, headaches, etc. only instead of it peaking and letting up in the usual timeline of a couple weeks, it lasted for what seemed like forever. I've detoxed off opiates MANY times and the worst is usually day 3-5 and then it starts to slowly let up a bit afterward, which usually gets manageable after about a week and a half. With my Subutex detox, even after 2 months I was still miserable. I imagine it's because of the long half life it has, it stays in your body longer than most opiates, a lot like Methadone. In the grand scheme of things, I would say from 1 to 10 (with 1 being easy and 10 being the most difficult) I would rank a "normal", short-acting opiate (Hydrocodone, Oxycodone) withdrawal a 7, Methadone withdrawal a 9, and Subutex/Suboxone withdrawal a 10. The feeling and symptoms are similar, only it lasts 5-10x longer. If anyone has questions, please ask away. I would love to be able to answer questions or help people any way I can. Especially people who are facing withdrawals and need help finding things that will make it easier.

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When I was on Suboxone,I one day totally forgot I was an addict,I said to myself did Zi takey Suboxone today?? Then I slipped again,back to 70 MG's of liquid handcuffs,I was using for 1 year then Methadone for 7 years with the in between using ,with Suboxone you do not use or feel to ,so my opinion is Suboxone vs.Methadone
SUBOXONE ALL THE Way..Even 1 mg sublingual for the rest of your days better than using .

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My wife is trying to switch from liquid methadone to the pill form of methadone. She already had one and it's not going so well. She was only on 15 mg liquid. Do we up her pill dose short term or is she screwed?

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Re: Judasfreeknpriest (# 54) Expand Referenced Message

I feel your pain! Struggling for years myself. Hit me up if you want to talk.

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Re: kATHY (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

Which is it? You made two different post and in each one said the opposite of what you said in the other.

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Ive been on Methadone for 30y.rs. NO break. All of employment urine test that hubby and I have taken have NEVER had Methadone show up as opiates. I'm so baffled at how much B.S. people are saying. For Woman whose not believing her daughter concerning valuim staying in system, well I'm overweight but even taking valuim 2x's week it still shows up in my U.A'S 4 months later, thats going 4 months without any, n it still showed up. Especially if she has Hep C. I did have Hep C, but cured. What I'd like to know do clinics know if you have taken methadone pills if u r normally on liquid methadone? Ive heard that Methadone is Methadone, yet Ive also read that yes indeed it'll show, DOES IT OR DOESN"T IT??

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