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What are the reddish orange dots on Watson 3202 vicoden? Are they just for a design or is it another medication in the pill, if so what type of medication is the reddish dots made of?

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To "Legit User" which I believe has some reasonable complaints yet, has chosen to rant about addicts and apparently accuses them for his issues. Well, im sorry to hear about your arthritis first of all. Many people i know suffer from it and it runs in my bloodline as well so im sure ill be dealing with that sooner or later. I go through occasional seizures and after a snowboard accident years back, I too deal with a lot of pain. However, im confused with your statement though. Granted you have all right to get help and such (physical therapy, etc.) and to be in actual need of medicine that will help but, you never mention other options like tramadol (which works great for pain but, is a non-opioid) You go on about how you can't get opioids because addicts are basically making it harder for you to get them. You seem to have the same attitude addicts have when denied narcotic meds after a visit to the doc. They list off all the OTC meds saying basically "nothing" works in an attempt to get those. Don't call these people freaks. You as far as I know, you could just be one who has a computer and enough will to express his disappointment after getting turned down for addicting pain meds. Plus, kinda funny how you know about what happens when you insufflate a pain pill. I suspect either, you know from experience or googled that info. Don't lie to yourself, your comment is text-book addict mentality. Don't get rapped up in addicting pain meds. It will lead to a life even worse than any arthritis pain you'll ever go through, trust me.

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After going through the thread and seeing everyones comments im going to add a bit of knowledge to some things. I myself struggle with constant pain that makes random days difficult(doesn't matter why because Im not going to compare myself anyone out of respect)that makes occasional days difficult and almost impossible to function at all some times! So, heres why I believe my overall experience may shed some light and hopefully help a few readers. I myself, am a "recovering" addict after having a MAJOR opioid addiction lasting over two years(at the end it was heroine). Anyone taking ANY type of narcotic pain killer for an extended time regardless of its strength can and most likely will lead themselves into a dependence or the drug. Don't think just because you have a prescription for "legal" narcotics that it means its not as bad as illicit street drugs. They can be just as addicting since we all have different chemistry and certain people are more susceptible to getting hooked. Granted what you get off the streets is nasty and not lab tested by professionals so, a lot of time people don't even know what there ingesting let alone how bad it is. I use to be addicted heavily to heroine(using IV and all that) and to be honest, it started with pain pils. Especially Oxy, which is way more addicting than hydrocodone even. Many I believe are justified in needing it but, I also know that a lot of times(addicts and non-addicts)once the pain starts diminishing will continue to request the same script with the same mg or higher. It a bummer how these narcotic pain AND anxiety meds being prescribed get such a hook on people. Ive seen people, lose all there possessions, get arrested, mess up friendships, family, and work because they either couldn't stop or because(and it will with some and its sad) over enough time making the drug top priority above everything and feeling like you can't live without it. The main point is, I ALWAYS urge people to look for alternatives to narcotic pain meds. They should be last resort. Addiction is terrible. Ive been clean over a year now and I still occasionally find it difficult to function along with cravings occasionally. I had a relapse July of 2014. It was bad enough to get rushed to hospital after I was found several hours after I had OD'd (shot up too much). It was a horrible experience to go through. Im blessed to be alive but, I went through some(not so fun) procedures like getting a huge spike-shaped rubber tube crammed down my nose and into my throat(to open my airway), several shots in the stomach(narcan and other medicine), and not being able to wake up or "come out of it" till the next day, almost 24 hours later. They said 5% of my heart was damaged and that i was very lucky to be alive let alone not a vegetable or something. I know its a story involving an obviously more powerful opioid but, people(including myself) have gotten to that point because you eventually build a tolerance to them. Norco, Hydro, Oxy, morphine.....its all addicting. Anyone, can justify there own usage of these meds but, only you know if what you say is fully correct. Suboxen, can help ease withdrawals if you've developed a dependence but, only if its a major dependency(large doses consistently and frequently) because you'll get more hooked on the subs if you start at too high a dose during a "titration schedule" which a doc would put you on to help you get a better handle on quiting/lower the consumption. Even with the Suboxen providing an easier transition, you still have deal with the most important part of getting free of addicting pain meds......WILLPOWER! Plus, if you accidentally go from addiction of pain killers to getting stuck on suboxon then your really in a tricky situation. Like I said, make sure to check EVERY alternative before resorting to narcotic pain-killers. Ive see CBD get mentioned a lot and know a bit about it as well. Its great! It's extracted from Cannabis and has proven to have amazing benefits in its use. I have a tube of it myself. The only side effect or downside is, is that it tastes like crap(but hey stuff thats good for you usually does). Yes, it comes from cannabis but, has had all or most of the THC removed(usually all). It's great for muscle aches, headaches, racing thoughts, stress, anxiety, sleep, and even seizures.(ex. read the story about the little girl who had 3000+ seizures very month and once she began taking CBD regularly, the episodes diminished dramatically to her only having a few every month, or another where a teen had a cancerous tumor in her brain and and rather than proceed with chemo-therapy she opted to take CBD and the doctors were amazed to see it shrink more on the CT scan tests). I would never wish anyone to experience the pain of accidentally getting addicted(in which California particularly having issues with the increase of people prescribed narcotics getting addicted). I only speak from experience and concern. Weighing out risks vs. benefits can be a difficult decision to make. Especially when it seems like theres no other answer. There are solutions if people are willing to try. Hopefully this info helps and im sorry to those struggling with pain and not knowing what the right decision might be. My heart goes out to all that continue to suffer.

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I too am on these, have been off and on for years due to spinal fusions and decompression surgeries, along with a very badly done knee replacement, I'm still in alot of pain with a lot of swelling, I was on oxy for a bit, but didn't like taking those, I took a step back down to the vicodin, and of course the doc cut those down. anyway, I too do not sleep when I take these, but nothing else works well enough to reduce the pain enough for me to sleep. I have a lot of leg and knee pain, it hurts to sleep on my back too long, and but it's too painful to sleep on my side, unless I have a pillow between my knees either way, I only get relief when I can take the Vicodin/acetaminophen during the day, but can't sleep then. Every pain management doctor i've been to wants to take any pain meds away completely, I have gone long lengths of time here and there without any prescription pain meds and end up taking too many OTC meds, which then come up in my liver and kidney counts. So it's a catch 22. I have never gone through any withdrawal symptoms, I feel pretty much the same just never have any pain free time, resting or otherwise.

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If your suffering from arthritis in any form ,, and believe me iI have and suffered from sickle cell anemia..my only reliefe was aloe vera juice at gnc store try it your life will change. I have tried everything

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they said due to age, could be young

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Dont laugh at people being addicted to pain pills.. Its not f***in fun.. Cold sweats, restless legs, you damn near have the flu but 10x worse. Why would you laugh at people.. When you yourself knows how it feels.

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Seriously everyone calm down. Opiate withdrawal will not kill you. Unless on suboxone or methadone but benzo withdrawal and some other meds will send you into seizures and kill you. Also I take some of the much stronger forms of opiates and binge on and off and while I do experience withdrawal yall make it sound like it's so bad and the end of the world. Good grief it's just hyrocodone haha. Opana, fentanyl, even oxy is worse. But Tylenol, that s*** will really do you in. Combine that and it's much worse/harder to get off. Switch it up to give different receptors breaks while you wean off. Also poppy tea but do considerable research before experimenting. It can be a cheap useful alternative.

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If you have pain PLEASE TRY CBD OIL OR EDIBLE MEDICAL M.J. IT WORKS FOR THE PAIN AND IT HELPS WITH THE WITHDRAWAL. HONEST IT WORKS. Google how to cook with it (I suggest coconut oil\butter as an extracting medium and if you want to buy CBD oil it is legal to purchase on the internet (I use miracle smoke). If you call their customer service, they will help you with the oral oil.

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please help me out any one i have very bad arthritis and i need to find a doctor who will prescribe hydrocodone, does any one have a idea, like in olympia or lacey or tumwater,,,,, please comment, ib provin 800 not working no more....

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Ask your doctor for tramadol 50 mg very effective for arthritis pain

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AsThe degenerative disk disease which I have from C3 all the way to sciatic nerve does not in anyway get better it in fact worsens over the years.
per my pain management doctor I have regular epidurals which control 90% of the pain and have to be done a month apart for cortisone reasons. They last from 6 months to 10 months when done right.

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I hear yeah! I actually found something that works beautifully for me, I could not believe how much it took my pain away and I was skeptical! It is a juice I drink 1 oz. a day off, and within 4 days, the pain was diminished by I would say....90 %. respond back to me if you want to get more info.

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Re: Jazzie (# 18) Expand Referenced Message

THANK YOU! Effexor was the hardest drug for me to get off.

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Re: Vinita (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Awwww that is so sad :( With your age & pain you'd think all doctors would be understanding & prescribe you the medicine that best helps you & relieves your pain so you can actually enjoy the rest of your days instead of being in misery because of pain :'( It's so crazy, it's like the people that don't need them are always the quickest to get it prescribed by a Dr & those who really honestly & truly need it can't get the medicine??? It makes NO SENSE!!!

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