Tagamet Is A Protagonist For Methadone And Xanax, How About Ativan?

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- Tagamet is a protagonist for some narcotics (like Methadone) and some benzodiazepenes (like Xanax)... Meaning if you take say 800mg of Tagamet 3 hours Before taking your regular Methadone dose, it will make the effects of the Methadone last longer and stronger (< not always stronger if longer acting, but by experience it does with Methadone)

But I 'think' I read that Ativan is not one of the Benzos that Tagamet (generic Cimitedine - sp?) will elongate the effects of. I'm worried since - big surprise! - I have urine drug tests every week or 2 at the Methadone clinic where they Watch it leave and enter the cup. My probation officer 10 years ago wasn't that close to me for testing! Anyways Ativan leaves the body in 7-22 hours max. I know this to be true since I've been prescribed it from my regular doctor for 8 years now. But the Methadone Clinics don't like you taking ANY benzos since 74% of all Methadone deaths are when benzos are also being taken.
So i get it.
But I'm not screwing with them. I need them. too long of an explaination why - short version, i can't breath w/o them due to a botched gallblader removal.

ok so the Methadone effects lasted all day today, the first time I tried the 800mg/daily (it also kills warts, sometimes genital warts etc after 2-3 months of 800mg tagamet taken in 2 doses a day. So i don't want to STOP taking the Tagamet!
Want to see if it indeed DOSE kill or remove this wart.
BUT.. if this means the Ativan which is usally OUT of the urine by 22 hours TOPS (I have No Liver problems, no hep C. so the usual 7-22 hours is true for me) But if the Tagamet Does affect the urine-clean-time b/c it's also a protagonist for Ativan then I'll be back to every day and lose my weekly-status... and positive twice? Might loose the Methadone clinic all together!

So remembering that not ALL Benzos arwe the same in clean time ( look up the difference between Xanax and Valium and Ativan - you'll be surprised How HUGE the difference in them is!)

Anyone have experience with Tagamet and Ativan?
And if it did or did Not change the up to 7 to 22 hours from dose to clean urine test?
OR found the Webpage that SAYS Ativan is NOT affected by Tagamet as say the Xanax is?

The sooner the better - thanks in advance people!

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I checked the interactions and I do see the one you are listing between the Tagamet and Xanax, but no, there is nothing listed between it and the Ativan, though you should check with your doctor or pharmacist to be certain.

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Dude if you're taking innocuous drugs to prolong the drug's effects you've gone a little too far. Take a week off.

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I can't stand responses as ignorant as this one! Some people can't just "take a week off", especially methadone patients. Do some reading and educate yourself so you can stop looking like an ignoramus.

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You cannot just take a week off of methadone when you are dependant on them. thats the worst advice ive ever heard! The patient will go thru severe withdrawals.

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Does the halflife of xanax get longer (meaning longer time for the body to metabolize) when using tagamet or not?

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Who is so ignorant to advise someone to take a week off Methadone............... I too hate people who give advice on something they know nothing about...........READ AND EDUCATE YOURSELF IF YOU DO NOT KNOW FIRST HAND WHEN GIVING OUT ADVICE.............

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Is tagamet something that a clinic would check for while taking methadone?

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This is too true! And thank you for you bluntness. Obviously this guy does not know what methadone is. Taking a week off could mean death for high dosing patients. Nougiehausermd "dude" you can't comment on something you don't have a clue about. Look methadone is a treatment drug for people who are trying to curb there addictions. Addiction is a disease and for all the critics who try and say that it's not is because they obviously have never been through it. Because you wouldn't be on here criticizing someone else for something they can't control. Yeah they may have could have not tried s*** but they did because they have an addictive personality. But for you to try to talk down on someone when you don't even have a f***ing clue about what there going through then obviously you need to "take a week off" and do your damn homework before you start on a subject that you have not a single clue about. You don't know if this person got in a bad wreck and got prescribed opiates for there pain for so many months and got addicted or what the case may be.

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I really agree with what the truth says. A person cannot just take a week off. Especially if they aren't ready to get off, or if they aren't detoxing off of the methadone. My mama always told me if u don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all!

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It is a federal law that no one, i repeat no one, is allowed in the bathroom with you unless it is a probation officer or correctional officer. Read it in the law books Google it if you do not believe me. They did that at a suboxone clinic and i printed the law and it was stopped overnight, no nurse doctor methadone clinic worker has the legal right to do that that is a crime. Invasion of privacy and can be sued for such actions.

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Could you PLEASE post a link to the legislation you're referring to ? The clinic I go to has a few overzealous dosing nurses that not only come into the restroom with you, but close the door behind them as well. It makes me soooooo uncomfortable. Thanks so very much :)

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At our clinic in FLORIDA panhandle they usually stand at the door with the door cracked. I too would like to read / see that legislation......is it by state or federal?

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Thanks for sharing this information hopefully it will help

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Honestly dude, Person who made this forum, I would ask my doctor about hydroxyzine, or a REALLY really strong pill form the same as about benadryl. I am not 100% sure if hydroxyzine will make the opiate therapeutic effects last longer I am not fully sure about. Through the grapevine I heard detox places for opiate w/d etc will give you this medication along with others to people first coming in, because in case they had used the same day coming in to detox they will reach their opiate peak much much faster and stronger.

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Is it legal to have a CAMERA, in the restroom designated for doing drug screens only? In Georgia this clinic actually has,a camera video the clients. Wtf ? How can they do this??? Second issue I was on subutex for 10 yrs and relapsed recently. Stopped the subutex and got back on methadone. I don't have withdrawals thank God but I don't feel the done at all. I'm on 45 . Any suggestions and feedback greatly appreciated. As you can probably tell I'm confused if I should do the done awhile maybe switch back to subutex later as I did stay clean on it till just recently. Thanks and God bless us all .

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I also go to a methadone, subutex, clinic in ga. If you switch back you will have to go at least three days off the methadone, just long enough to suffer terrible withdrawals. My clinic has full color high def cameras in all areas including restrooms. Is that legal???

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Speaking of ignorance and I'll add arrogance to the mix since this is in reply...FYI "methadone patients" as you refer to them (as if they should be shunned), are on the stuff for various reasons. A large percent of people that take methadone are good people. People that may have just had surgury, had an accident of some kind, stricken by disease, ect and, were prescribed opioid pain killers for an extended period of time. Do to one circumstance or another perhaps there medication changed schedules and doctors became frightened and stopped prescribing, perhaps they became dependent (100% guaranteed in long term dosing), maybe cycling opioids, maybe they are an H slammer, WHATEVER, but they were unable to get the opioids their body needs to function. Methadone clinics allow one to taper down off of high levels of opiates while catering to the psychological and PHYSICAL struggles one will have parting with those levels. It is a complicated process chemically and even hormonally in a biological sense but not so much in a logical sense which leads me to believe you are less than intelligent thus have no place amongst individuals with a 80+ IQ. You cannot simply take a week off.

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I TRULY UNDERSTANS WHERE YOUR COMING FROM MONTE. I GOT HOOKED ON TYLENOL AFTER BREAKING MY BACK IN 3 PLACES IN A FATAL 1 CAR ACCIDENT. THANK GOD I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE CAR. ANYHOW, I WAS FIRST PRESCRIBED 350MG TYLENOL AND GRADUATED TO 550MG TYLENOL PM. 2 YRS LATER I NOW FIND MYSELF ON 120MG METHADONE DAILY. SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GO THROUGH MONTE,RIGHT?

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Take a week off!?!?! Lol! Somebody doesn't know wtf they are talking about so you shouldn't be giving advice!

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You absolutely cannot just stop taking methadone for a week, its dangerous. The withdrawal symptoms are horrible, would you write suggesting a person stop taking their Prozac or Zoloft. There are better ways to voice your opinion.

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Re: shaun (# 10) Expand Referenced Message

Did you ever get that info about clinics watching you pee is illegal cuz my lawyer never heard of that

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Re: nougiehausermd (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

Your are very ignorant!!! Do some research and get educated!!! You cannot just simply stop taking methadone!!! I wish people like u had to go thru real withdrawals for just a day or two, then lets see how u feel to just stop taking methadone that u depend on!!!

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Re: nougiehausermd (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

that must be easy for you to say.....perhaps we could call it "A Methadone Holiday...."

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Re: Roxanne (# 15) Expand Referenced Message

I'm in Georgia as well and our clinic has camera's in the bathroom also.

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Atovam is metabolized differntly and tagamet will not effect it

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my god people relax ,,, just a little ,, while its true the comment did seem insensitive and thats the last thing you want to encounter when going on an advice panel, especially dealing with such a sensitive matter, i think that you may be over reacting the smallest amount ... probably because its a hot button issue ,, but you never want to bully someone to the point that they feel that they cant speak,,, everyone has important points to add ,, perhaps he was just pointing out the obvious of what it looks like and that is a lot of people do want to make the effects of the methadone stronger and if you are actively looking for ways to increase your well being shall i say than thats not really a good sign,, it isnt so much that your not taking the program seriously in some cases perhaps your not on a high enough dose but thier are some people that despite how much they are given of methadone will always still have a desire to use while in treatment ,, yes that happens ,, so yes people have called other people out when they think that is whats going on ,, should they do this ?? prob not ,, but o well , thats what people misinterprit sometimes ,,, first of all was he saying take a week off from methadone or the other med that the person was worried he would get in trouble for taking i believe it was ativan ?? second i find that if someone is ignorant than what better way than to teach ,,, yes people want to increase there methadone witch might not sound very promising from a treatment perspective but the idea behind potentiating i find to be a good one, even if it originated from my personal desire to want to increase my methadone dose...do i feel bad about spending my off time researching ways to increase my dose ,,, yeah kind of i do ,,, but guess what my methadone dose may not be good enough if im thinking about ways to incrrease it,,, thats not a character flaw that the user should have to b ashamed of .. methadone was designed to be able to elimate cravings for 24 hours if its not doing that than your not on enough,, so you can increase your dose there bye increasing your dependence on methadone or you can try to find ways to get the desired 24 hour effect in other ways like potentiating ... clinics i have read already do this themselves to make the medicine stronger with out actually increasing the med, thus increasing tolerance witch when and if you are trying to come off someday will be easier the less tolerance / less drug that you have .... so there u have it potentiating is a good thing,,,,
people should ask questions before they fly off the deep end
and most people are aware that you can not just come off methadone ,, ill bet any money that if hes on this sight he already knows this,,,,,

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I have to take so much crap (serapax, valium done) because I have been a drug user for 33 years. So my tolerance to just about all drugs is very very high

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Mickloven,

If you're already using 100 mg of methadone daily in addition to serax and Valium, how do you function? The last thing you need is to add a potenator to that cocktail. Mixing benzos, opiods and other pharmacological agents is not only unwise clinically speaking, it can prove deadly.

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Jack,

So articulate so informed yet so deceptive. I fully understand that addiction is a disease that robs us of our dignity and moral fiber.Iam in fact a recovering addict successfully utilizing a MMT modality for 14 years. Compliant employed integrated back in the semi norms of society as such. Have you ever considered using this protocol for what it was intended?? I played your game on the clinic for years until I was given an ultimatum cut the crap or be cut loose. I signed a contract started following clinic suggestions adhering to guidelines and was amazed phased up to 27 day take homes in less then 3 years. I don't pretend it's easy, nothing worthwhile ever is but the stress and games some play to get over while being medicated is indeed the reason methadone has this unfortunate stigma attached to it. Sorry dude I don't possess the writing skills to convey my point as you so artfully described but I had to share the difference between WORKING THE PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO BEING WORKED TO STAY ON A PROGRAM.

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how do the pills work ? More sleepy, etc. etc. I would like to try this method too. I take 100mg of methadone a day as well as serapax and valium (which I want to give up). The methadone does not hold me like it did. I use it for back pain now because the government wont give me opiates because I was a junky.

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