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Lisa Says:


I want to start taking subutex 153 orange half moon shape pill in morning when I wake up. I took my last dose of opiates around 8 pm. Will I go into withdrawal? I am very scared that I will. I have done it before with suboxone and thought I was dying and it's something I never want to experience ever again.



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Doc88 Says:
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Of course u will go into withdrawal but probably not for very long . doctors say u must b off opiates for a certain amount of time but everyone's different. I do know one thing Box is strong real strong 2nd only to methadone. Good luck especially at ur box doc cuz n Indiana they r crazy.

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Bobby Says:
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Re: Mermaid (# 42)

First off you have to have a doctor who isn't opposed to writing Subutex scripts for people who have bad reactions to the naloxone in Suboxone. Some doctors won't write it for any reason. Its usually a lack of knowledge about the naloxone causing negative side effect. Also alot assume it's more abusable or something. I started on Suboxone in 2006 and felt like crap every day until I changed doctors and she happened to up my dose one month but insurance wouldn't pay for more Suboxone so I got 2 weeks worth of Subutex. After 5 days I felt like the clouds parted and I started to feel normal again. Alot of people will tell you the naloxone doesn't get into your system or whatever but it definitely does! I told my doctor when I went back about how much better I felt and she was fine switching me. I have had to use Suboxone a few times since then in 2010 and every time I do I start to feel sick and depressed after a few days. Just find a doctor that knows what they are doing and just explain why you think Subutex would be better for you.

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Mermaid Says:
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How do I go about getting prescribed Subutex?

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Jdawg2316 Says:
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I agree with part of that. But if a half a pill makes you feel Ok, that's all you should take don't work your way to a whole pill, if you are trying to get off of opioids. I have been dealing with the opiate addiction, trying everything thing I can do to get clean and stay clean. I can give anyone very good answers about any questions of the opiate addiction. You don't want to stay on Suboxone or subtex more than a month. Two weeks is best. If a half a pill works then taper down 1mg. every two days until 0.5 Mg for two days, and so on. Just remember there is no detox pill that will help you completely detox without any withdrawal symptoms, but they will be 80% better and easier. I have detoxed enough times to know what works best. I have been on opiates for 26 years and been trying and fighting this for the last 16 years. I wish you all the best luck with this addiction. It ruins lives so save yours or anyone you know and kick this addiction to the gutter where it belongs.

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Chad Says:
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Re: Jim (# 37)

Been there done that wasn't sick, quit lying.
Why would you lie? Is it something you have to do to complete your day? Just stop.

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White Lightn Says:
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Re: Lisa (# 2)

No way!!! Lisa listen... You shouldn’t be in real withdrawal after stopping Subutex? You can take Benzos just to maintain. Although, never ever take opiates just before repeating Subutex!!! You will be in hell with intense withdrawal that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy! I hope this helped. Feel free to write back...

Jeffrey

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Chad Says:
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All these ppl on here are lying for some reason, maybe to make someone feel bad or sick to fulfill their sick need for someone to be sick or feel bad. Naloxone is what makes you deathly ill and will throw you into withdrawl. Since there's no naloxone in subutex it is safe to take after a dose of opiates have worn off. Naloxone is terrible stuff, the only thing it is good for is stopping an o.d. as prolonged use can damage your liver because it shouldn't be used for any length of time. I take buprenorphine or subutex, I took suboxone with naloxone and was sick for 2 months before being switched over to subutex because I ended up telling my doc that the good outwayed the bad vecause addiction treatment is supposed to help you and in my case it wasn't. Just don't abuse subutex or they will be forced to switch you to suboxone and that stuff isn't good for anyone.

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Jim Says:

Re: Mary (# 10)

Totally wrong. Wait wait wait or be sorry, so sorry.
Has nothing to do with lack of naloxone.
It's affinity to receptor kicks what's there to the curb, so wait or get pw's
At least a day until you're sick as dog.

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Chris m Says:
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Re: daydreamer (# 3)

It's because of the naloxone in soboxone that causes withdrawal effects. Subutex does not contain naloxone so it doesn't cause withdrawal symptoms. I've been on soboxone for years and then ran out and all I could find was Subutex. It definitely is stronger. There's no "tabletop" effect that you reach with soboxone. That being said, be careful not to take too much or take a narcotic thinking the naloxone will help keep you from dying because it won't. Stay safe and I hope this helps.

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Matt Says:
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Re: Mary (# 19)

Right on, as with every other helpful drug that happens to be controlled the people that must go overboard make it a situation where everyone who inquires about it is viewed as a drug-seeking abuser regardless of genuine intentions. One Hallmark of addicts is definitely that when one feels fine it's not appreciated; only when people are deathly ill in withdrawal they appreciate just feeling normal and not have to be higher than telephone wires in their mind... just agreeing with you.

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Adriane Says:
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Avoiding precipitated withdrawal - guidelines for each substance: naabt.org/faq_answers

I wish I could delete these posts that give bad advice to people in this situation... It's like they don't even read the whole post and then tell YOU whether or not YOU will withdrawal.... And they don't even know what you're taking or for how long... as if they have a degree in physiology or chemistry and how these medications actually act on the receptors of someone taking a medication at your dosage.

The answer is that it DEPENDS. Just because this Mary figure does not think buprenorphine will bind to your receptors fast enough to cause your body shock on the amount of opiates you were on, does not mean she is RIGHT by any means. That is just her personal experience with low dose opiates such as "percs".... But I have personally taken subutex (buprenorphine) and gone into very bad withdrawals. I have also been given Narcan by paramedics during an overdose, which is naloxone (the additional medication in Suboxone) and not had ANY withdrawals at all.

Actual detox facilities will not administer any buprenorphine (subutex) until 24 hrs after the last opiate, for most long acting opiates, or even longer for methadone which has a longer half life than even most long acting opiates. (They usually do not administer suboxone at a detox, as it is being supervised so there is no need, and generic is cheaper for them). It is not naloxone that causes precipitated withdrawals. That is a common myth, that apparently is still around even in 2017, I'm guessing due to misinformation.

-Talk to a doctor (that is licensed to know all the up-to-date info on detoxing and these meds).
-Or call a detox, and ask them if you do not have time or resources to get into one.

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Trent Says:
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Re: Lisa (# 8)

I take my Subutex that I just got and did stuff the day before and it helps me right away. It takes the withdraws away a little

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Drdrgivemethenews Says:
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Hi. I have been taking 8 mg Subutex by Mylan. I too have an allergic reaction to Suboxone...(Naloxone). It makes me feel very sick to my stomach and over a one month course, I become so miserable it makes me feel suicidal. I was put on straight (0 Naloxone) SUBUTEX 8MG. Changed my life..became happy again, could tolerate the pain in my back and live life. This weekend when I picked up my refill I got orange 1/2 moon shaped Subutex. 2 days have gone by and again I feel like I’m on Subutex. MY QUESTION: Are the half moon orange tabs Naloxone-FREE?

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Ryan Says:
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Re: JJG (# 6)

You CAN take subutex right behind a morphine or oxy... I do it alllll the time. No harm done. Just no suboxone.

Editor's note: We do not verify the credentials of our users and nothing stated in our forums is intended to be taken as medical advice.

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Charles Says:
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Wait until your going into withdrawal from opiates and you'll be ok. If you don't, there may be sever consequences as you already know.. stay safe.

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Marina Says:
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It's NOT suboxone, that crap is awful. l waited 20 hours before taking only a small piece and threw up for days. I too thought i was going to have to call an ambulance.

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Chongalong Says:
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I have personally had severe precipitated withdrawals from Subutex, plain buprenorphine. It's the bupe that throws you into precipitated withdrawals. The bupe knocks the remaining opiates off your receptors and causes the pws. You still have to wait!! I Know this from personal experience. People saying you do not have to wait have no idea!!

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Comments Submitted Says:
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You WILL go into precipitated withdrawal if you take SUBOXONE OR SUBUTEX too soon after opiates. You don't go through precipitated withdrawal because of the naloxone. The naloxone really is such a small dose it doesn't really do anything. The reason you go through precipitated withdrawal is because the bupe (main ingredient in both suboxone and subutex) has such strong binders to your opiate receptors that it will knock off whatever opiate is in your receptors, then binds itself to the same receptors.

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Loulou Says:
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Yes thats true Subutex dosnt have the blocker in it Ive been taking suboxne since they first came out and still taking them i also was taken subutex when i got pregnant i prefer subutex

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Mary Says:
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OMG! Thank you Mike for saying this. I've tried to tell others that when taking SUBUTEX, you won't have the withdrawal. Everyone thinks I'm wrong. I've been taking SUBUTEX for a few years now, I know what I'm talking about. Thank you!

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