Rhodes/purdue Buprenorphine Hcl 8mg Rp B8 Vs Roxanne 54 411 (Page 13)

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I have made the switch from the 8mg films to 8mg buprenorphine tablets only. With all the research I've done and experience I do my best to stay away from actavis mylan and nowadays sandoz. I noticed everyone has enjoyed the Roxanne now westward generics amongst hi-tech coming in second/mylan. I have no experience with mylan bup and don't want to take the risk even as mylan has always been a waste imo. I'm not a fan of allergan (actavis) taking over watson so depending on the drug dispenses I most stay away. There are as of now 7 manufacturers of generic buprenorphine hcl 8mg (generic subutex). They are in order of my preferred with not much experience except with brand name:

*roxanne (now westward pharma)- 54 411
*hi tech- 8 ^(arrow)
*mylan- M924
*teva (allergen/activas owned) crooked b 799
*actavis- moon 153
*sun pharma- 460 white round
[And the brand new released generic made by Purdue and distributed by Rhodes Pharmaceuticals the new Rhodes generic]
*RP b8- white round bevelled and pretending edges.

I currently have had a smooth switch to the Roxanne/westward and declined mylan, actavis, teva, hi tech, sun pharma as most research and reviews conclude the Roxanne/westward generics the 54 411 seem to be best reviewed. I was unable to find the Purdue/Rhodes pharma newly released generic RB b8 imprinted generic. All I know is Rhodes and Purdue are professionals in the process of making quality meds and not just quality meds but pain relief medication, as they even were the company to CREATE oxycontin. I was able to come across one image of them on the web and they look very similar to the Roxanne 54 411s in size color and mostly shape except for the rhodes/Purdue ones protrude or kind of pop out on each side beyond the bevelled edges. They look really well made and on one side they have RP and otherside b 8 which the b and 8 are fairly far apart. I have been doing great from switching from brand films to the Roxanne westward 54 411s so far. I'm hoping to get some feedback by next month on these newly released rhodes/Purdue generic buprenorphine hcl 8mg. They are the newest and just released October 2017 and look very shinny and quality made. I'm hoping someone here who has tried both the Roxanne/westward and the new Purdue ones imprinted RP b 8 tablets. I am going to try and have my pharmacy special order the new Rhodes generics made by Purdue again imprinted RP b 8 white round shinny tablets fairly similar to the Roxanne but look better quality imo but do not have much experience with generic just brand and am very well versed on pharma companies and their medicine and their quality each one has.

Has anyone tried these new rhodes/Purdue ones imprinted RP b 8? How would you compare them to the Roxanne 54 411 tablets... I hope for a response or it will be trail and error for me when ordering Rhodes next month if i stay on this route and will see how they compare to the Roxanne/westward but will not be til a month away. Please if you have any experience with these generics and especially the new rhodes/Purdue one let me know. Again I was able to locate only one image of them and they look great. They do not look small like hi tech more like a combined Roxanne and mylan with the shininess and how they pop out on each side..they look a little larger like the mylan and Roxanne not small like hi tech or teva or activas they are round tablet imprints RP b8 with b and 8 fairly far apart. Any feedback would be great and I would want to switch to rhodes/Purdue from roxanne (now westward being a factor) generics as they make quality are new just released and approved this year 2017 of October and no one how even mentioned them yet that I can find. With westward buying out Roxanne and them making changes a new generic made by Purdue may be just the one we have been waiting for and needing..again on the 54 411 ones now and looking for feedback on the new Purdue Rhodes ones and if the switch from Roxanne westward to rhodes/Purdue would be better maybe with better quality as they have always been a great and reputable company who makes outstanding drugs. Any feedback would be great.

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Re: Charlene (# 224) Expand Referenced Message

yes and everyone should care how much mg is in their bup and not just bup but anything they put in their body and should expect the best efficiency of them very very vital if nit most important thing when comes to generic medications which all very very much then can go as low or as high as i think like 17 to 20% and if your a company wanting to make money you most likely will be putting in the least amount to save and make your company money ya know. this is wy big chains and even some mom and pops carry and order the cheapest generics most are like placebo now. i read an article pertainting to the opioid crisis and they did a study where they gave half group real pain meds and the other half sugar pills without them knowing and supposedly the sugar pill group they claimed had a bit more of pain relief and stated effeciency which is ridiculous to stay a placebo sugar pill will get rid of your pain moreso than an actual pain pill. i dont know all detail but check it out if you can find it it is just such ridiculous propoganda

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Re: goozer (# 235) Expand Referenced Message

it is just more cost effective for them to have that room to go under the potency of a drug by that much and its just really messed up these buisnesses lie walgreen etc take all your money but dont give a crap if you are taking their cheapest almost sugar pill medications to their customers who make their business what it is. so always expect a generic to have the lesser end of the main ingedient more so than them actually putting in 17% to 20% more and sure some batches may have more but think as the head of that pharma company you would want to put the least amount in to save money and they do nott care about the people. i have had many friends and family and even strangers who re or have bee pharmacist or worked in big pharma industry and even spent years going to and paying for the school just to quit because they say they mentally cannot do it as the industry is so morally wrong so even have good people who have put their lives into working in the industry just to uit once they realized how immorallly wrong it is and has become. its crazy ive seen so many people quit big pharma for the immoral reason of pretty much slowly hurting someones body or doing nothing and paying for nothing lol

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Re: goozer (# 236) Expand Referenced Message

Oh boy, here I go.... I almost hate big pharma.. as for now I need certain medications like my bup but I also have been looking towards natural supplements along the lines of alternative medicine. For I have learned so much latly about the pharmaceutical companies that I had absolutely no idea of..I'm trying out a new remigen of magnesium malate, I chose that particular one for it helps with nerve pain, muscle and most of all energy just what we all want in one pill. My other is PROBIOTICS clean your body from the inside out, and turmeric.. its been 2 weeks now and damn who knew magnesium could do the job..most people dont even know that a good 60-70% have that deficiency. So between these new herbs and new Rhodes bup I'm turning into a whole new person that I like..its because of big pharma a few others can't be used like out beautiful marijuana plant offers so much more benefits one other plant that's not illegal the kratom plant, related to the coffee family..I never knew that big pharma could rule our country but they just about do...

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I think I seen that article.. yes crazy..they said the people who got the sugar pill had more relief based on what's in their mind, if some people take it believing it works ..it will work because they put it into there mind . Now I know it's not true with all people like with me anyway I most definitely know my pain pills, but do a research on others it may very well work.. I'm always googling these types of things. I worked at a hospital for 25yrs. I worked side by side with doctors and some I became close with so I learned. Sometimes I feel I know more than I should, I'm always playing doctor to someone. And I feel alot of times I can diagnose . My husband kids me I cant play dr with everyone,.. but I try..lol...your going a great job goozer, I like reading your outputs

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goozer (# 234) --

Great topics and info. Your absolutely right why should we just accept..

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It's a clinic that prescribes the methadone. 11l5 mg x 2 daily split dose,...see I got the lingo of it.lol..still learning. She has been on it for one year, my other sister out of state her dose has been 75mg a day for wow at least as long as my bup years 15....see the big difference in each others dose. My little sister has been going daily to the clinic every single morning for a year. Trying to bump it up, . This last time the doc did bump it up and kinda warned her, this is it take it or leave it. So she gets a few take homes a day now.. but damn every morning??...ya, her famous sentence to me is:::; that's what madalyn monroe used to to take, her methadone and elavil..... like thays supposed to mean something to me except the fact she dies of an overdose.. I swear she has more polish in her than my entire family..oh ya, I can tell when she is getting a bit disturbed by what I might say for comebacks...all of a sudden she has to take a shower she says char, I have to go cool off..I will push her buttons sometimes

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I currently have them and I hate them. They do not suit well with my body.

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Re: goozer (# 236) Expand Referenced Message

Ahh yes my sister again..telling me how ALL HER VITS AND SUPPLEMENTS COME FROM DOLLAR GENERAL...EVERYTHINGS $1.00 . Because I told her about the new 3 supplements I'm taking I rave on my magnesium malate I even want the best in those...when I told her how much we paid for all 3, she freaked and said sends me a photo of her line up of bits and minerals 7 in a row, all cost me $7 char, then I can go shopping at beal's outlet and treat myself to cloths... yep I just thought OK... let her believe what's best again she knows best right...

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Re: Charlene (# 248) Expand Referenced Message

lol right and if you want the best generic of magnesium malate I would be more than happy to provide that to u but ofcourse everyone is different so u may already have your best generic if magnesium malate but if you like It could provide the best one imo much love let me know and such a funny situations ah woman. i grew up with 6 of them being the only boy incan relate and understand lol very prideful about their drugs and ways and not even open to other options but if it works for them and doesn't damage their internal organs and push the methadone or overdose and managed well then I'm sure she is happy with her regimen ,) let me knkw if you want want i provide best generic for magnesium malate and I most certainly will. much love stay healthy best of wishes and stay active healthy and work towards a better quality if life together than that is gre mat for her. i wonder which generic tablets of methadone - methadone she has which company makes her generics and what current generic are you on for magnesium malate? happy to find the best fitting one for you with best potency feel and look as appearance certainly is a major factor in the quality of tablet capsule etc just let me know much love Charlene God bless and stay healthy and we can find you best generic for magnesium malate or any medication you may want for better quality within your regimen of meds will be awaiting your response and here to help.

I am curious how she was abe to get a rx of methadone - methadose tablets. this would be nice to have a rx for the methadose - methadone- methadrol etc without going to a clinic daily for a quick sip of fluid. i would much prefer the methadone IR tablets and or methadose. it must be her family doctor who is good with rxing it for her out here everyone goes to clinic,s rarely see tablet methadone anymore but i do know it is flooded here in my city never ran into any in few years tho but i do wonder if it would be better for my pain than buprenorphine, but risky without the ceiling effect. i may ask my dr to try a month of it and if doesnt work switch back to bup but my bup rhodes does a great job for my pain but need something for breakthrough pain.also I have never been a true addict i know big pharma very well from years of experience and research and have taken many types of pharma drugs to many to count including methadone tablet years ago and also on my bup for pain not for addiction or detox treatment but for pain as i informed my ortho at the time who reccommended opana er to me and at the time i informed him that i wanted to stay on the suboxone bla i should have took his reccommendation of opine er as they are amazing and if not the best tablet or drug for pain and unfortunate they pulled it from the market mid season something they have never done this is the first time they have done so for any medication. the have taken brand name drug off the market during season anyways. but my will power is very strong as is my pain and a high tolerance to pain and high tolerance to pain meds or any substances so I always wonder you know if methadose tablets would be more effective for my chronic pain than bup but a lot of visits and paper and leg work just to get it but may be worth a try for a month if not back to rhodes nothing official yet but just curious as with sublocade and thanks for that feedback but methadone would certainly be something i would consider taking over bup but there are patients who are prescribed both bup in morning and night and methadone tablets for daily breakthrough pain i have seen and heard this to be possible but idk yet lol. i could tell you best generic of any medicene inquired on but when comes to some like methadone something like roxanne westward makes a decent generic of methadose as well as mallinkcrot and a few other rare generics that are amazing that i will kep hush hush until inquired upon. god bless love u all happy weekend be safe out there.

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Re: goozer (# 249) Expand Referenced Message

also charlene have another message just sent that needs review but look for it soon and I look forward to your reply, feedback, response, and just to hear from you again! Also do you take any benzos and if so what if you do not mind my asking and what generic maker do you use for any benzos if u have any. I get my alprazolam bup and soma and make sure greenstone on the alpraz rhodes for bup and watson - activas mayne pharma that say dan on one side and 5531 on the other just few of my medications but make sure to get the best generics out there even sometimes i pay a little bit more for some generics as some generics are three times as expensive as others so pharmacist only willing to order f they ake a profit so i always even it out woth them if not covered or do not want the dispendes generic they normally have they are great there but feedback on best generic soma and xanax would be great if have any experience charlene and fam?! thank you all god bless the healthy and the rest of us stay positive

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Re: Sarah97 (# 247) Expand Referenced Message

wait I'm confused what ones do you hate sarah i would love to hear feedback on what med it is your talking about and reasons it doesnt fit you thanks! i will eagerly await your feedback! God bless

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Re: goozer (# 251) Expand Referenced Message

and if it is a bup generic you say you hate please inform which one you are stating you hate and please provide feedback on why and feedback on your favorite preferred one whether it is bup or something else we are talking about as i would love to hear your feedback and a few other generics and drugs have been mentioned on my forum thank you much and I will eagerly be awaiting yur response and feedback i love to hear it good or bad adds to knowledge and experience many people are looking for and need thanks sarah i will be waiting and please be detailed one why you hate it and why you like another preferred generic compared to thanks!

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Re: Sarah97 (# 247) Expand Referenced Message

sarah are you referring to methadone tablets or the rhodes bup and if so why what is issue with one or the other and which generic maker and reasons why good and why other is bad. i would love to hear your feedback on this and which drug you are talking of. thanks again sarah. if it is the rhodes bup they are pretty much identical to brand name indiviour and identical to both brand and teva except for one active ingredient so just curious as why u hate rhodes bup if this is what you say you hate when it is nearly identical to indiviour brand name subutex which has been discontinued in the states for awhile for it potency and IV users? everyones body is different but rhodes with only one inactive ingredient differ from brand name it is kind of hard to contest, and also which one you do prefer whether it is in regards to the methadone tablets or the bup tablets or both please keep me filled in with all pertinate details on why u hate and why you like another and which generic?

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Re: Charlene (# 246) Expand Referenced Message

you are so funny make me smile every night. and yes i have never liked elavil (amitriptyline) for nerve pain such as this I would suggest Neurotin (gabapentin) and or possible lyrica. one of the better gaba generic is from ciplo pharma really effective much better than activas which is what they mostly dispense for gaba. i have lots of elavil left over but they no longer make brand name elavil only generic amitriptyline hcl tablets no brand n sttes for elavil anymore just generis. i know sandoz makes a good decent generic and qualitest now owned by solco makes great medications ( what i like to cal nedications lol). ivax also makes a generic for elavil as well and they are not to bad of a pharma company decent amitriptyline hcl tablets. brown with SL 369 on them. there are quite a lot but they are as follows mylan M 37 blue tablet and capsule shape tablet with M 39 and pink oval shaped, ivax SL 369 purple capsule shape, qualitest (solco), northstar gg 461 orange circle tablet. also GG 431 just sandoz usa, there is also rubgy pharma tablets 3075 red circle tablet, Sidmak SL 370 orange and round with imprints of SL 371 as well,we also have url pharma who makes quite a bit of elavil generics their larger one is MP 29bpink and capsule oval shape and others in smaller mg by URL Pharma such as MP 28 orange and round, qualitest i woud say makes the best generic imo and they have a few as well including the 150mg blue oval shaped tablet with the cursive V and 2106 ora pink circled one with 2105 cyrsive v remeber hough Solco Pharma has bought out some products from qualitest if not all. i get the qualitest (solco) clonazepams and they are very hard to find until lately but they are way better than the green teva clonazepams and possible even better than brand name k cut outs happy to locate them this month anyways back to the elavil Geneva Pharma also provides a generic amitriptyline with very similar looks to Sandoz shape and imprints with largest mg beingan orange circle again by Geneva Pharma imprints gg 217, there is also Mutual Pharma MP 28 orange and round, they also have the horrible India company i would not reccommend on any medication from Accord Health with imprint I-6 capsule shape and brown and mylan also myes elavil in compounded forms as well such as imprinted MYLAN 574 circle orange that contains perphenazine. Par Pharma also makes some compunded amitriptyline as well such as the imprinted PAR 961 blue and round tablet containg elavil and chlordiazepoxide in it as wel. Qualitest (Solco) also makes compounded elavil such as imprint 277 these compounded ones by qualitest (solco) are fairly new not even pictures online yet like i said qualitest now solco is a very quality company that prides themselves for their quality medications.we also have Zydus Pharma usa that is imprinted ZA 3 round ad brown just plain elavil generic such as their larger dosage tablet imprinted 1230 ELAVIL capsule shape tablet colored beige pretty little tablets.then of course brand name slavic made by AstraZeneca Pharma also larger dose of brand name elavil is imprinted ELAVIL STUART 47 and is a blue elliptical/ oval shape and of course the rand name Roche made slavic which is also brand with imprints ENDEP 150 ROCHE and is a red round tablet.Then lastly the newest generic for elavil would be made by Thompson Solutions LLC with V 2106 imprint and a blue capsule oval shaped tablet I cannot seem to find pictures for this brand as i am certain it is a newer generic for elavil. so I'm not sure what generic the one I have is but did not like it. i have searched and its here somewhere but unable to locate atm. but i would have to stay for elavil the best generics in order would be
Certainly the ROCHE Brand and Elavil Brand names are best as they are brand.

1. Qualitest (Solco)
2. Sandoz
3. Par Pharma
4. AstraZeneca
5. Thompson Medical Solutions - brand-new evil generic
6. Mutual Pharma
6. Geneva Pharma
8. Rugby Pharma
9. Sidmak
10. URL Pharma USA
5. Zydus
6. Ivax
7. Mylan
13. Accord (India made and imo all drugs made by accord are junk.

I have not taken my elavil in many years but have a bottle somewhere anyways with my experience I would get myself Qualitest (Solco), AstraZeneca, Thompson Medical Solutions, Sandoz, Mutual Pharma, and Rugby. I would maybe try some others like zeds and ivax sometimes there eds are great and sometimes they are like sugar pills. Anyways Charlene I hope the helps with any feedback you could use! God Bless. Also have message being reviewed for ya in regards to you magnesium malate stay tuned! a little off topic from my forum but happy to provide this information for you charlene!

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Re: Charlene (# 246) Expand Referenced Message

Charlene I want you to check this out if you already haven't information on the magnesium malate for you and a provided link to a very wonderful made formulation supplement for these babies. hope this helps and hope to hear your feedback as requested in regards to the methadone experience. I also responded in regards to the elavil but it is quite a long message and is being reviewed as we'll lol stay tuned and look forward to your reply and feedback.i now the aerobic Mag 07 is a really favored brand for many issues but unsure if it has the malate in it. but check it out anyways and source natural is a very popular brand for the magnesium malate but I think the best brand is Vinco Brand, NusaPure Brand, Integretive Brand, Seeking Health Brand, Designs For Health Brand, and there is a cheaper priced magnesium malate made by NOW Products and Thorne Research Brand. I always say follow he money and think the best bet is going to be the they can be found on the third link below where .They also have a brand out here locally that has grown worldwide called "Pure" and it is popular but did not see malate in it maybe though i use Pure Brand name vitamins for most everything except bio35. Charlene if you select the last link it will bring you to a wonderful page full of great magnesium malate products see below and I recommend the AOR one the 4th link but think the Source Naturals is best check it out on link number #5.

1. https:/­/­www.longnaturalhealth.com/­aerobic-life-mag-o7-oxygen-cleanse-180-vcaps

2. https:/­/­medium.com/­@isotropeusa/­magnesium-malate-supports-natural-energy-production-promotes-joint-health-9f4ba3573459

3. https:/­/­www.iherb.com/­search?kw=magnesium%20malate

4. https:/­/­www.iherb.com/­pr/­Advanced-Orthomolecular-Research-AOR-Mag-Malate-Renew-120-Vegan-Capsules/­33056

5.https:/­/­www.iherb.com/­pr/­Source-Naturals-Magnesium-Malate-1-250-mg-360-Tablets/­19154

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Re: goozer (# 249) Expand Referenced Message

charlene I have spent a lot of time researching the magnesium malate and my message is being reviewed but I believe the Source Natural's to be the best at. Source Naturals, Magnesium Malate, 1,250 mg, 360 Tablets. It has one of the highest rating online for magnesium malate and this is bit more pricey but follow the money. I also sent a very detailed message being reviewed atm for you on my feedback on elavil amitriptyline for you. I hope once it is reviewed you can find it useful. There are provided links for you 5 of them i would check out the first one and the fourth and fifth one if wanting to know my feedback on magnesium malate and another long message of elavil and its generics since they no longer make brand name elavil here in the states.please keep an eye out for the messages being reviewed i sent for you a little off topic but hope it helps and spent good few hours looking into it for you but I am very familiar with amitriptyline just no loner take it haven't for years but decent med. God bless keep eye out for my messages being reviewed i think you will find them very informative and useful. Have a great day

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Re: goozer (# 237) Expand Referenced Message

Goozer, may I add one more thing my sister texted me again last night..I told you how high and mighty she feels to keep?? Rubbing my dose about her methadone VS subutex. She writes to me. Char, I am very happy for my methadone and elavil...has been around for decades. I wouldn't even want to try subutex for all the problems you have had with it...humm I'm sitting there getting pissed my the minute. I finally wrote back. What do you mean my problems with bup...well darn she only lives about 15 -20 minutes away. However we just started to connect and I reached out to her moreless saying I should have been a better sister and yada,yada..we kinda only knew each other before I'd say may this year..before that I was already doing subs. Since2007 so our main contact was always about drugs pills.....I got away while she used just a years ago her pain medication dr fired her..she was getting alot like oxy. Fentanyl patches morphine..so I'm sure that's what led her to detox in the hospital..she said they gave her suboxone 2 daily sent her with a script she claims she could get an appointment with the doctor soon enough so what good will a weeks worth be to her..she obviously was somewhat better she used the strips. Anyway long story short..we reconnected in late may..at that time I had a new sub dr..who would only give 2 subs day..so I bvb was kinda sick not knowing did the buprenorphine stop working for me I thought? Well damn if so I need to do something so I went to pain management he tried to guide me to stay on bup. He said your dosage is way off you just need more ..I continued to say I'm gona try this anyway he gave me 4 percents 10 I tried for 10 days. I was sick as a dog, the weight I lost was horrific the dr told my husband she needs to go back on buprenorphine treatment we said ok. Problem with him he will not prescribe subutex only suboxone. So I find a new dr..she says to you dosage is off you need anywhere from 3 to 4 8mg a day...boom I'm completely better no problem at all I'm back to myself and loving my new Rhodes..I just wrote her what I just said what do you mean? We connected at a low time in life...I haven't heard back from her today....but I'm thinking about throwing a few digs back..problem is I'm not mean enough I guess cuz nothing comes to mind. I'm getting sick of her already and remembering why I stayed away from her. Any digs please thx, thx thx

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Hi again, probably alittle tired of me by now, I'm good with my sister now, I'm just not going to let it get to nbn me anymore. It takes more energy to fight back so I'm letting it go...ok. I say YES, I think you definitely would do better with methadone for pain relief apososed to buprenorphine.for pain relief. I think bup is more for addiction than pain..like you said the ceiling effect and all..a few months ago I mentioned to you in a earlier comment, I thought the bup stopped working since I have been on it so long..I wrote to a psychiatrist I follow on utube and he wrote back. NO buprenorphine doesn't just stop working by the time he wrote me I decided well damn am I going to keep paying for this expensive medacine to be going in and out of w/do for 9 months ..I got a dr to help me detox but also told me it didn't stop working,..you just happened to need a higher dose..and I got a different dr to prescribe me and she agreed. Yes a higher dose is needed..I have been fine ever since except somewhat idk..as happy or humm.?? I thought about methadone to, lots of times actually..I looked into it. And I'm in southwest Florida, all I could find out so far is I cannot find a doctor to prescribe the pills. I think it's hard expecilly with the opoid crisis going on not to mention most of the problems started in my area for easy access to pain meds..gosh I used to go to the doctor here get my scripts and go right next door to fill the script and bump into the same people I seen inside the dr office..people would come in van loads to my area everyone got the script, filled it loaded back up and drove miles to home..so my sister says oh yes you can get them..well Idk because I know for a fact if it were true how come she doesn't do it. She wants them, she told me she sees people at the clinic get them .so humm again. I talked to her about myself getting them.and she tried very hard to talk me into it...I had a few problems with it... for one going to the clinic everyday, having to wake up to no dose getting dressed to get it and come home. I need my dose right then not 2 hours after I wake up...then you have to wait in line to meet with the doc sometimes..and they make you go to counseling to..I'm not into that at all none of it but my dosage..and it takes a long time until they get you at the right dose to....I'm like you. Find me a doc and give me a script. She tells me the pain management dr that fires her gives them but I never tried to see if its true..maybe I will call them to see, and have info to give...and darn if true..I'd be at the door..I know the w/-ds are bad if not worse than subs..but I do feel something is off with me and my sub use for so longi remember the first time on subs down to the very first day of using buprenorphine. Didn't it come out in 2005? I started close to that time even the drs..prescribed it differently than nowadays

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Re: goozer (# 253) Expand Referenced Message

I will keep a look out I appreciate all your support and info..I decided to look and get elavil to help delete 4 other of my meds I believe elavil is q very good medication since I like old school meds..the meds I wanted to delete were effexor, buspar, seroquel and remeron with elavil my dosage as of now is 75mg. And it has been great..I was or still am worried because I'm afraid I will miss my effexor and buspar I get a bit of energy I believe from those two..it was my choice to do this not the doctors. Sonim sure I could change anytime I want...so since it's only been a few days on the dosage increase I cannot say at the moment..I'm still googling around but I will look for your links now as I'm very interested what you found out.. thx friend

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Re: goozer (# 253) Expand Referenced Message

Oh darn one more quick question about magnesium malate I have. Ok I told you I already bought the one you suggested it was my first choice of magnesium. I wanted to try the one sold on Amazon by magSRT-jigsaw time-released it's the only magnesium sold that way..but for now I have the source naturals 1250mgs. Most articles say 50+up for women is 320mg, men 50+is 420mg. I dont get that part..the bottle says up to 3 aday with meals I take 2 but the dosage on the bottle is high, or am I adding something wrong?) {affiliate link added}

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