Oxycotin Question (Page 2)

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Lakeka Says:


I have really bad back pain and I have been seeing my doctor for about three years. I have tried just about every med that there is. I finally settled with oxycodone 30mg. It has been a life saver for me. I now can work without pain. Lately, I have been experiencing it not working and that disappoints me because now I am starting to have more pain. Is it possible that I have become used to the medication and it is not working anymore??? Is 30 mg the maximum dose? I am now taking 30mg every 4-6 hours. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?



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paininco Says:

Hello Whit731. It sounds like your body has developed a tolerance for your current method of pain control. if you are taking 10-12 pills instead of 4, your doctor will eventually cut you off and rightfully so. There comes a point when you can overdose without realizing it is coming. My recommendation is to switch to another form of pain medication and possibly add a muscle relaxer. That way your body can work with you to reslove some of the causes for the pain instead of simply trying to block your sensation of feeling the pain. I hope this helps.

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wtarin1 Says:

Paininco - there is NO generic oxy's. At least none that I am aware of.

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Dr. Abraham Says:

I have seen this exact same thing happen with many patients, regarding the NEW FORMULATION of Oxycontin. Yes, people to build a tolerance for Opiates, however, I have recorded several cases of people who were doing fine on 30 MG of the ORIGINAL formulation, but when Pharma-Purdue changed the formulation it is without a doubt, less bioavailable (the way the body absorbs the medication). One patient was taking 30 MG for eight months, functioning at work and doing really well. He refilled the prescription and received the new formulation (OP, rather than OC). The second day of taking the new formulation (OP), his pain went from controlled to terrible.

I have spoken with many Pharmacist about the new formulation and it seems that the Pharmacies are getting many complaints about Pharma-Purdue's new OP formulation. So, even though your body can develop tolerance to any opiates, there is concrete proof that this new formulation of Oxycontin is not as effective as the original (old) formulation.

Some of the Pharmacist are recommending that the patient take the new OP, Oxycontin at least one hour prior to eating, or two hours after eating. Also, many Physicians are prescribing higher doses, just to compensate for this bad medication. Many physicians are also giving their patients additional, fast-acting opiates, to supplement for Break-Through pain.

It is very sad that Pharma-Purdue did not have very good studies and quality control, when producing this new formulation, which is supposed to curb people from abusing the medication (snorting it, shooting it, etc.).

You probably keep a daily journal of your pain levels and what activities take place each day. You also should have noted when you received the NEW formulation and see if there is a direct correlation of when you began the new OP Oxycontin.

I know the bioavailability of the new formulation of Oxycontin is much less than the original, or non-gelled formulation. It is just not breaking down in your system appropriately, or your body reacts poorly to the new OP formulation.

Speak to your Physician and check when you began the new formulation and when your pain level increased. My bet would be the new Oxycontin is not working for you, so you have to discuss other options with your Physician and working with your Pharmacist.

There have been so many complaints, exactly like yours, which can be traced back to changing from the original to the new Oxycontin. Write Pharma-Purdue and the FDA about your problem, as they need to hear this new formulation is not working.

Good luck!

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Lakeka Says:

To whit
That is how I was until I started taking oxycodone 30mgs. It helps me out a lot. If you are taking 10-12 then you may develop an addiction if you have nor already and don't know it. Talk to your doctor about Dilaudid. I take that for breakthrough pain and it helps me. Plus I take Amrix which is a muscle relaxer and it does not make you sleepy. Your body is going to build up a tolerance for the Oxycotin in a minute. I hope this helps.

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wtarin1 Says:

Dr, Abraham - You have hit the nail right on the head. Would/could you please, please continue to act as an agent for us. I have spoke with Purdue several times and I was given the well you can't air travel, they same way before the attacks on the US, I was appalled that he would equate oxycotin with the same as air travel! Pls. Doctor keep on them, maybe they will listen to a Doctor then just us junkies. I am in pain and the new ones just don't WORK! Thank you for your time and effert on this,

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Whit731 Says:

Thank you guys all so much for your help. I have already cut back because of the fear of becoming addicted... I haven't even thought of overdosing. Thank you all, and I will talk with my doctor about some of the options you've mentioned. I hope you all find the relief you deserve.

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LDJP Says:

Hello group I need your help. I went and used my oxycodone pills up and I cannot refill them until a week or two. I got my wisdom teeth pulled and I used them for that also. Now I am having some withdrawl symptoms and it is horrible. Is there anything I can do to get through this? I have valium and zanex and soma but the soma knocks me out! I cannot take that. Please help if you can. Thanks

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Dr Abraham Says:

LDJP:

This is NOT medical advise, only information for you. Many times, Physicians prescribe Clonidine (Catapres) for Opioid detoxification. As it is a medication, developed for Hypertension, you need to be certain that your blood pressure is not too low, prior to taking this. I don't think they have really figured out WHY this medication helps with Opioid withdrawals, but is is commonly used.

Also, there is Suboxone available for those experiencing withdrawals, but you do need a prescription for both of these medications. Suboxone would make you the most comfortable, but you would have to make an appointment with a physician, certified in prescribing Suboxone.

The Benzos will help, but cannot take away that "crawling out of your skin" feeling. Again, I am not giving you personal, medical advise, but these are common medication used for Opioid withdrawal.

Try and get an appointment with a Suboxone, Certified Prescription Physician in your area. It is by far the best answer for any Opioid withdrawal. If you do not, or cannot see a Suboxone Physician, try the Clonidine (Catapres). It comes in tablets, or skin patches. Again, it is extremely important that you are not taking too much to suppress your blood pressure.

I hope this helps! Either way, you are pretty much dependent on a prescription. Any physician can write for Clonidine. Suboxone is a bit more difficult and expensive, but will mostly get rid of your withdrawal symptoms.

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wtarin1 Says:

Hey Doc - I know I'm addicted to these Oxycontin. Didn't ASK to be put on them and didn't know they were so addictive. Thanks for the advise as to HOW to get off them but WHAT am I to do for the PAIN then? I'll keep taking the s**t they are feeding us now cause they don't work and I don't want the pain or the withdrawal! Any suggestions as to what I can take for the pain, if I go through the withdrawal from the oxy's?

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LDJP Says:

Hey I have a question for you. My doctor started me on the soma and it just wipes me out. Does it do that to you?? I mean I fall right a sleep!! I am in withdrawl kind of I guess because my body is not used to not having the oxy's. I am trying to get off of them. so basically I am asking two questions. Do you know anything I can do for the withdrawl symptoms??

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paininco Says:

There is a difference between addiction and dependence. If you take the Oxycontin to get high, you are addicted and need treatment. If you take it to control pain, you are dependent and need the medication to function. People are dependent on all types of medication - from sleep medication to anti-depressant medication. Narcotics are just more of a focus. Trust yourself.

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paininco Says:

As mentioned in my previous posts, I have the same problem as does everyone I know taking any type of pain medication. Your body becomes accustomed to the medication and it takes more to achieve the same result. My experience is to alternate medications about every six to eight months. I switch from Oxy (10mg, 4-5 times per day) to Vicodin (500mg 4-5 times per day) with Soma at the same time. It seems to work best for me (for the past five years). Good luck.

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paininco Says:

You are in a dangerous situation. What if you accidentally overdose taking all the different medications? You need to go to your doctor immediately and explain what has happened so he/she can help you taper off the Oxycontin. A good doctor will help you.

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paininco Says:

Yes, I had that problem when I first started taking Soma. My advice is to cut the pill in half until you body gets used to it. Next, Soma is a muscle relaxer not a pain reliever so it won't do the same thing as the Oxy. I cannot believe your physician prescribed Soma in place of Oxy. When I transition from one pain reliever to another (Oxy to Vicodin), I taper off the Oxy while starting the Vicodin. It takes less than a week to complete the transition and I do not experience withdrawls. The Vicodin is not strong enough to manage my pain so I use the Soma with the Vicodin; however, I do not use the Soma as much when I use Oxy. My recommendation would be to go back to the doctor and address the withdraw problem. Managing the withdrawls and the pain will be miserable. Good luck.

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LDJP Says:

To painico

I started taking one and that was better. Two was knocking me out!! I am still on the oxy also. He just added the soma so that my muscle would relax at night. I would have so much tightning that I could not even sleep. So the soma has helped a lot. I am now trying to lower my dosage of oxy. It is just to hard when I do not take them. When my back is not hurting, I started not taking them and when I had the skin crawling feeling and insomnia, I had no idea of what it was. Then I read about withdrawl symptoms and I new that is what it was. I would like to talk with you privately if that is possible.

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Been here before Says:
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Stop talking it now. Pain or not. If you want all your teeth to Roy out and to become mineral deficient, continue taking them. And I'm not trying to be a troll. I've seen what these pills do and it's scary. I have pain too, and I wish I never started taking these pills.

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