New Generic 30 Mg Adderall Xr (all Orange W/ R 3061 On Them) Not As Effective (Page 2)
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please share your experience with this never seen before, less effective drug that two different pharmacy's have given to me in last two months. they make me fall asleep!

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Hi Shaun, I do not take this drug but have been curious generally about generics. I do not know if I can post a link on here as no one else has, so briefly this is what I have found out. Generics do not have the same therapeutic dose as brand names they can be 10% either way of the prescribed dose. They also are only evaluated on a few people. When a generic producing company gets a drug recipe from a brand name brand drug manufacturer they do not get the recipe for how to manufacture the ingredients. Now, these ingredients can be sourced from chemical manufacturers anywhere in the world or made by themselves, and this means they are or can be sourced from India, China or anywhere. Chinese meds have been under suspicion for a while the FDA are a bit slow I have read in checking up on complaints but only what I have read as I am not in USA. It bears investigating and it's all on the net. Just type in “are generics and brand names the same” and you will get the usual denying any difference, however, there are some very interesting posts and web pages about this. If they are the same why are they cheaper for starters!

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Re: HEMARO (# 171)

When was the last time you filled your sandoz ir and what dosage was it? I recently filled sandoz 20 mg IR as for the past few years felt that was the only generic that worked for me but this last script was miserable no focus effect body was vibrating etc.. Seems to be a common thread lately with alot of these generics something shady is going on and big companies are buying smaller ones and seems like they are purposefully messing with the formula! O btw, sandoz was recently purchased and underwent internal management changes.

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Re: Mag (# 170)

Hi there and welcome to the "generic Adderall" turbulent world. I have been on Adderall XR 30mg twice a day and the original Adderall is more than fantastic but sadly some insurance companies don't cover originals anymore. I have been a psychiatric patient for almost 30 years and know medications from A-Z. Unfortunately, BIG PHARMA won't tell you that the difference ratio from original to generic could result from 15% to 50%. SHHHH don't tell anyone! lol. FDA rarely monitors BIG PHARMA facilities unless there occurs a class demand on certain medication. To make this short, based own my long experience with Adderall XR I will mention the worst Manufacturers: Impax Laboratories, Actavis, Teva, Barr, Aurobindo, Amerigen.

Most of these companies locate their "headquarters" (meaning only the offices) in a United States location so when you look them up in the internet, they appear with a U.S. address when they really are mostly in the Middle East and China with NO FDA supervision at all for years. The real problem with most generic Adderall XR is the timed release of the medication once it is in your system resulting in a wide spectrum of mood and thought disorders. Based on my trial and error with generic Adderall XR, the best and closest to the brand name Adderall XR is SANDOZ PHARMA which keeps me focused and in a great consistent mood all day. I get them at Walgreens and call them up a few days before the date of my next script to make sure they have them and if not to give them a couple of days to have it available for me.

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I have really bad results with generic adderall made by Aurobindo. They don’t work. I used to date a doctor who told me generics can vary in potency by 15% more or less, each batch. They are fine unless they are more than 15% stronger or weaker than the real medication. Do you go to Rite Aid? I don’t know who they order from, but a lot of their meds feel fake. I drive to another city to use Walgreens.

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Re: Jessica (# 10)

I know this is an old thread, but for anyone who happens to stroll through here at some point just as I have- this is a very interesting & objective topic that deserves attention & clearly remains relevant. There are an infinite number of controversial factors surrounding Adderall itself, Generic vs Name Brand & so forth. I tend to agree with those of you who claim to have a less effective experience with generic adderall, as well as certain generics being worse than others. I had absolutely no idea it was possible, or even that they were different in any chemical, pharmaceutical, medicinal fashion. My point with that is this: It wasn't "All in My Head" since I was completely unaware that there was any potential of that scenario prior. It wasn't until I began to wonder why it wasn't working sometimes (after receiving generic), and why it did (after receiving name brand adderall), other times that I finally decided to do a bit of research & find out what, if anything, could cause such a noticable difference. At that time I still believed "it's all adderall," the same medication, aside from appearance. ie: Daisy Paper Plates vs Generic, or Store Brand- they're all "paper plates." Yep, same "thing" or general idea, serves the same purpose, however- now we've started to realize that the name brand really is superior, it's more durable, or effective if you will.

Sure enough, there's a wildly common misconception that most of us are probably compelled to believe thanks to our unassuming human nature & we're naive enough to wrongly assume that "our doctors or pharmacists would never lead us astray" therefore we wholeheartedly believed them when they quickly dismissed any questions or doubts between "a labeled adderall and a no named adderall" regardless of the fact that they're comfortable blatantly lying to their patients while assuring us "they're all the same ingredients, or medications, one happens to be the brand name, and one's generic therefore the only difference is the name." That was good enough for me -(until it wasn't, and it didn't work anymore). Another aspect I just noticed is the vast differences in each of their formulas, or recipes, I guess. If you'll go back & reflect you can see there are drastically more inactive ingredients in the generic version of adderall. But why? If you're poor, or you choose to save money because someone you trusted lied to you & promised "they're the same thing" you deserve to be forced, blindly into ingesting several other (unnecessary) ingredients than someone who can, and/or decides to go with the more expensive, named brand label? If that's not a hundred ways to discriminate, thin out the herds, and falsely advertise a prescription medication- what the hell is? That's absurd, shameful, and quite frankly it's UnFackingAmerican.

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Re: Markus (# 165)

"I'm not abusing my medication". Also, "I took 270mg in a day". Junkies like this are why doctors are cautious when prescribing Adderall.

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Re: Jackie (# 159)

You have to take a break. 1-2 weeks.

The laziness happens from too big of a dose - I took a 3 week break and it was well worth it. Get that tolerance down.

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Re: shaun (# 2)

Are they the R 3061 because thouse don’t work as the ones you are talking about

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Re: shaun (# 2)

This chemical composition is unpredictable. I'm not abusing the Adderall xr. I enjoy the down ride. In my opinion, this Actavis pharma doesn't qualify as a generic adderall xr. I actually got this brand because I tried to fill my script early. Then had my awesome doctor call and tell the pharmacist it was ok to fill before the written date (23rd). So the pharmacist either purposely gave me this brand instead of legitimate teva. Most likely because I looked like a drug seeker. I was cool, maybe that's all they had in 30mgs. This s*** is unpredictable - all peak and crash like some illicit drug.

It is dangerous when you're expecting a familiar reaction and have a mission or some work to do. I just planned to exercise and chill. I had a bad experience to say the least. I started to chase the peak. In 25 hours I ingested 270 mgs. If I'd done this with 25 mgs of legitimate generic Adderall xr I'd probably be dead. My point is, I don't ever do that with the quality amphetamine. This stuff in some sense is maybe safer, though I've had bad times taking better brands and I had energy for days. Just good time playing games or better exercising. My face is swollen and hurts to the touch like a sunburn. I'm could be allergic to so called inactive ingredients. Most likely it's dirty and got a counter measure chemical to punish abusers.

I get it though I'm 80% moderation. It's far better that way. I'm actually not opposed to amphetamines or benzos being less controlled or legal in a minor capacity. I'm not qualified enough to be certain that such substances should be more easily obtainable and significantly decriminalized. Very intelligent people are well payed to determine if the risk/benefit factors are balanced enough. LOL. To the benefit side I assume.

Be careful with any Adderall Xr , this amphetamine for myself is way more dangerous. I'm f****d for a month if I can't get my doctor to rewrite though that's unlikely. My insurance is the main issue. I'll probably pay anyhow or buy a couple at a time if they do that with narcotics. S***, now I have what I think is somewhat relevant here. Just wanted to share my little skirmish with this specific generic adderall xr. On a positive note I've learned a bit about what can qualify as generic, what I thought meant indistinguishably identical to the name brand at least to a 90% something standard. I've read about wellbutrin and other generics not meeting a standard though I think this one might be for now just cheap dirty f*** you junkie s***. I wouldn't doubt if in certain cities and very low-income communities this stuff and others alike are your only choice?

This R3061 Actavis could be the most beneficial alternative. For financial or sadly it's higher quality among the vast array of options. Or limited. I have little knowledge on how many generic ADHD MEDS/Amphetamines are out there on the shelf behind the counter LOL. God bless, we all get what we need to function more efficiently to maintain comfortable sanity. With lots of healthy safe excitement. That promotes longevity, life survival I guess. I'm just having a nice time coming off THIS less effective alternative.

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I've been taking Adderall XR 30mg. two capsules a day made by SANDOZ. It has always worked for me until a week ago when pharmacy dispatched me the medication but this time made by IMPAX GENERICS that I call (IMPAX VENOMS). Very weak energizing effect that lasts for approximately 3-4 hours, then I got the crash along with racing thoughts, extreme anxiety, tremors, negative emotions, etc.

If you go and pick up your medications, before leaving pharmacy, check the manufacturer and if you get to read IMPAX, return them and ask them to give you another brand. This IMPAX Adderall XR is worse than Hell!

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Re: David (# 1)

You are incorrect sir. There are major differences in the Actavis Elizabeth brand of Adderall.

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The Actavis Elizabeth generic R 3061 Adderall needs to be investigated. I’m convinced this company is a fraud. At the very least, this product specifically IS NOT ADDERALL XR.

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This pill made me so sick I thought I was loosing my mind. Severe headaches, total brain fog, and no energy. It was awful! I feel so bad for young kids that might have this experience on generic and not know what is going on.

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Walgreen suddenly discontinued a terrific generic Add XR that had orange & white beads. The one they carry now (by Praxus, misspelled) sux! I then tried CVS generic, and it was a useless powder. Finally I found a decent one @ Rite-Aid. Made by Sandoz & it has orange beads. Says: M Amphet Salts on colored side of capsule. Jeece, Good Luck, y'all. They just have to make life all the more of a hassle for us, don't you know!

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I'm prescribed 30 mg IR tablets three x a day and I noticed after taking them for a couple of months, now they make me extremely sleepy and I don't want to leave the house or do anything!! Its like I'm back to my old self but 10x worse!! I would even give myself a break and not take them for 2 or 3 days when I could just stay in bed all day and I've never took more then the 3 tablets!!! Sometimes I only took 2 a day!! I have to pay cash for my prescription so I always get the orange round ones made by Sandoz that everyone else tries to get, but I guess most Insurance don't pay for that brand, I have no idea why considering it is generic! I'm wondering if I should try a different brand but reading all of the threads on here it sounds like everybody is different and you have a really good chance of getting something that don't work at all! I have tried the pink ones, white ones and yellow ones and they all made me tired besides the pink ones which made my heart pound!!! Does this happen to everyone?? Plus now here in Michigan they have new rules so he now has to give me #60 one month and #90 the next ...SMDH

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Re: Josh (# 157)

Thanks for your detailed explanation, but believe me, I get the difference between ADD and ADHD. My post was referring to the many people who are obviously getting their medication on the street and are seeking a “high,” not those with a legitimate diagnosis.

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Re: Kat (# 155)

"It sounds as though you, and many other posters, are taking this medication for the wrong reasons. Someone who truly has ADHD may well become drowsy from a stimulant. You people are using it like speed; to stay awake or get a kickstart so you can make it through the day."

It sounds as though you have a fragmented understanding of ADHD and ADD. Despite what many pseudo-science psychology half-wits might have you believe, ADD and ADHD are separate sides of the coin. Not all of us are gibbering space cadets with an inability to sit through an entire thought process due to excess energy. If anything those with ADD are the ones truly in need of the stimulant, because our brain processes the same insane amounts of information as those with ADHD, but without the added benefit of hyperactivity to keep our Prefrontal Cortex from blowing a fuse during mundane tasks. This is typically accomplished by straying from the task at hand in order to indulge in the mental processing of more ADD appropriate activities (such as solving the mysteries of Universe).

As ADD and ADHD are two separate sides of the coin, it stands to reason that those affected would also benefit differently from Adderall. Those with ADHD need the drug for it's ability to slow the brain down, while those with ADD need it to keep the brain juiced. And let's never refer to the initial effect of the drug as a "high", because for those who actually have ADD it's not a high, it's a "kick in the ass".

NOTE: If this doesn't make sense to you (the reader), then you either don't have ADD/ADHD or you do and your drugs simply haven't kicked in yet. Either way I shouldn't have to explain how I reached my conclusion on the site, because your special brains should make the hundreds of necessary connections on your own. Just don't hyper-focus on it ;)

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Hey guys,

I created an "Adderall Generics Thread" that we can use for reference, where we can all contribute the basics of our recent prescription refill (manufacturer/pharmacy/location/review) so we know the CURRENT status of the Adderall supply going around. I think this will help all of us because there are hundreds of threads and it's so difficult to sort through.

Link: Adderall Generics Thread

It would really help if you could just add a quick reply with your experience. You don't need to register on this site so it will just take a minute.

Thanks!

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Re: addyprobz (# 12)

It sounds as though you, and many other posters, are taking this medication for the wrong reasons. Someone who truly has ADHD may well become drowsy from a stimulant. You people are using it like speed; to stay awake or get a kickstart so you can make it through the day.

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My 30 mg. ER ate orange and clear. G456 on capsule. That's just manufacturing number. If they are putting you to sleep its because you are ADHD and you'll probably have to go with Vyvance or something else. Most of my family is ADHD and only 2 of us can take Adderol. It knocks the others out. I was given 5mg. fast acting also but I told them I don't want them. I'm more energetic without Adderol but I get more done because I can focus! That's what it's for. If they speed you, you aren't ADHD, you're ADD. there's a difference.

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